Empire 8

[fisheralum91]

Didn't I say that earlier?

[gobombers15]

GBomber you may be right, I don't remember exactly what you said, but if Hartwick did beat you guys it would be so exciting to see Mad Hawk go crazy and no matter what you say, I know it would be killing you. Plus it would put them one win closer to the 5 mark that you have clearly put out there.

Good luck this weekend to everyone except those teams playing Utica.

I don't know if seeing Mad Hawk would be "exciting." I think the word "nauseating" does come to mind, though. Would it bother me if Ithaca lost to Hartwick? Of course. However, it would be more bothersome in the sense that it would be a sad testament to Ithaca's ability to win away from The Bulb, even against obviously inferior teams. If they do lose, I'll drown my sorrows in about 14 Hand Grenades in the Quarter tonight. I don't think that's going to happen, though. It's really a case of two teams whose seasons are heading in opposite directions right now.

We all know Mad Hawk is going to talk some smack if Hartwick leads at all in this game. We also know he's going to have some stupid excuse ready. Something to the effect of "the talent levels were similar, Hartwick may have even had more, but the Bombers had more experience and the better team lost tonight." I'm so used to his posts at this point, that will be the crux of it.

I'd have to give "Game of the Week" status to Saturday's Ithaca @ Utica game, though I must admit that I think RIT @ Alfred is the biggest in terms of who has the inside track at the #4 seed.

[superman57]

For once I have to disagree with you when ever you put Fisher and Naz into a gym it gets intresting and merits game  of the week no matter how much better fisher is

[clearconceit]

I don't think our game with Itahca will be that close.  It is Fisher and us in a 2 horse race.
As for Alfred Rit being the game I don't see it.  RIT is not very good!  This league has 2 legit teams.  Us and Fisher.

Gotta go see us Hang a 50 pt wallop on Elmira.

Peace

[gobombers15]

For once I have to disagree with you when ever you put Fisher and Naz into a gym it gets intresting and merits game of the week no matter how much better fisher is

I agree with you in that if I could pick one game I'd want to attend this weekend, it would be that one based purely on the atmosphere surrounding the game. Ok, and to be honest, to hopefully see someone get decked. It doesn't matter if it's a fan or player or assistant coach.

I made my comment based on the game with the two most talented teams on the same floor(Ithaca v Utica) and the game with the most implications(RIT v. Alfred). I'm headed out now, hopefully I don't come home to a Bomber L to Hartwick. I'd never live that down.

LET'S GO BOMBERS!

[superman57]

Fisher takes care of RIT big time, it was never really a game

[Caz Bombers]

Surprising absolutely nobody, Utica wastes the Elmira Crawling Eagles 86-46.  Fisher, as noted above by Superman57, keeps pace with a 76-55 home win over RIT.

Still awaiting finals from Naz-Alfred and IC-Hartwick.

[UCgrad45]

According to E8.com, Naz beats Alfred 89-74.

[UCgrad45]

Ithica 67 Hartwick 58 according to E8.com.

[Caz Bombers]

Bombers win 67-58.  21 points for Jim Bellis.  No boxscore to peruse yet, but that was  A LOT closer than I wanted it/thought it was going to be.  I'll take it though.

Despite the identical winless records for 'Wick and EC, Mad Hawk evidently is right about the whole competitiveness thing.  Hartwick is playing teams the whole 40 minutes while Elmira, in typical Elmira fashion, doesn't appear to give a damn.  They might go winless this year; I'm calling the Hartwick win tomorrow right now.

Tomorrow's Ithaca-Utica clash will reveal a lot about where these two stand.  Sorry but this has to be the mythical E8 Game of the Day over Fisher undoubtedly whomping Naz, rivalry or no.

[gobombers15]

Caz, the Ithaca game wasn't as close as it looked. Look at the play-by-play at the bottom of the box score, Ithaca had a double-digit lead the entire 2nd half. The Bombers were leading 59-41 with 2:45 remaining. Tonight's game was the very definition of a "comfortable win." I'm sure MadHawk will come in here and do his best to portray this is a close game, when that was not the case at all.

I wish I could say the IC/UC game tomorrow is important, but don't we all know that those two teams are gonna be the #2 vs #3 game at Fisher during E8 tourney weekend? What's really at stake here besides which team is going to wear the home uniforms on a neutral court (even if that's undecided because IC will beat Utica in The Bulb).

Surprise of the Night: Naz pasting Alfred by 15 at  Alfred. Wow. It looks like the loser of the RIT/Alfred game will be in big trouble. Picture this: If Naz loses at Fisher(likely), Hartwick beats Elmira(probable) and RIT knocks off Alfred(within the realm of possibility), then Hartwick will be tied for the #4 seed. Look out for those Hawks!!!

[Pat Coleman]

My apologies for not keeping up with the conversation.

Yes, indeed, D3hoops.com was blamed in the local newspaper for the fan behavior at that game. I had a less-than-pleasant e-mail exchange with the reporter afterwards about blaming the messenger.

[hawks1323]

Booyah Folks

Last night was "Bad Officiating Night" at Binder Gynasium on the Hartwick College Campus

I have NEVER spectated a collegiate basketball contest as poorly officiated as last nights Hartwick vs. Ithaca game.

The pathetic officiating crew was:
James Toomey
Gary Nicoll
Timothy Harris

First off, I question whether or not these three clowns are actually collegiate officials . It really seemed they came from the local Holiday Inn Express or the Russian School  of Judging. I would love to know what these guys scored on their officiating certification tests.

I think it if safe to say that these officials never had control of the game. The job of the officials is to make sure the game is in control and no team gets the advantage by fouling. Well, last nights officials did the exact opposite.  If it wasn't for some bad calls against Ithaca, I would have accused Ithaca of paying off the officials.

There were 225 spectators at last nights game, which the officials were clearly overwhelmed with. It is clear the fans allowed the fans to get under their skin and blow the game.

Paul Culpo, had two marginal technicals called against him and he was ejected. Which means he will not be coaching today against Elmira.

I sure hope Chuck Mitrano has the oppourtunity to watch the tape of the game and see the horrific officiating that took place.

It is a shame bad officating dictated the game.

I will save the actual Hartwick/Ithaca game analysis for a later post. I don't like posting on game days, however, last night's pathetic officiating need to be addressed immediately.

Ciao for now

[gobombers15]

C'mon Madhawk, just give Ithaca their due. They'd beat Hartick handily if they played them anywhere. Sure, the officials may have been bad, but don't assume that was the difference in the game. Ithaca had an 18-point lead with under 3 minutes to play; that's not officiating. It wouldn't have even been that close if Ithaca could shoot FT's(16-29 from the stripe).

Instead of complaining about the officials, maybe you should blame your defense for allowing IC to shoot 50% from the field. Or maybe you should blame your shooters for shooting under 40% from the field. Or maybe you can point to the fact you couldn't stop Ithaca's one consistent scoring threat.

If it was a back-and-forth game, your complaint about officiating would have more validity. We've talked about D3 refs in this room before so you should know what to expect going into it. Ithaca's a significantly better team than 'Wick is right now. Truth.

However, IC needs to shoot FT's better if they want a chance today. I have a feeling Ithaca will be gunning some 3's today so hopefully they're falling. I still think Utica wins by 5-8 points.

[fisheralum91]

Hey madhawk-
C'mon now- spectated?
I "spectate" you won't be at wick long with that writing style!