Empire 8

buck1053 · May 14, 2008, 11:52:17 AM

Quote from: Jacketfan2011 on May 13, 2008, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: superman57 on May 13, 2008, 03:11:30 PM
Well better squad limits us to, Fisher, RIT, Ithaca and Naz, of the people leaving for a better job, I could see Kornaker leaving, but who knows

Or Stevens?

Judging from the original poster's previous posts, I'm guessing its Naz, because he seems to have posted lots about them. That's just my take on it, but obviously it could be any of those four, and Stevens, but I'd pick one of the Rochester schools.

Kornaker could be the one, since it mentioned a better offer, and with a down year, he should make the jump in case it becomes a trend, not just one year. Somehow, I didn't guess he'd be the one, though, because of his comfortable spot at SJF.

Mullins probably isn't going anywhere until he retires at this point, so I'm guessing its not him. I hadn't really thought of RIT, because of their 15-11 record this year, but it could be McVean, but again not seeing him move on other than retirement.

Since I've ruled out Stevens, due to not being in upstate NY and only having been a member of the E8 for a year, I've got to guess Nazareth. Now, Daley, has been around for a while, but I noticed in addition to being the head men's basketball coach, he's also assistant athletic director working in game management and scheduling. Perhaps the better offer is a bump to AD, taking away the craziness being a D3 hoops coach brings with it.

Thoughts?

FROMAFAR · May 14, 2008, 01:05:03 PM

Hey guys, I really didn't mean to start a guessing game.. Some of the coaches mentioned are probably getting frustrated with the posts about them, if their reading. I really thought this would have been announced quickly. Maybe the school wants to announce the replacement at the same time (that's just a guess). Again my tip came from someone who is a coach FROMAFAR as they say.. not involved with the E 8... However I have checked and the schools web, as well as where he is going, still hasn't released info. But I assure you it's for real.....Hang In, I believe it has to be soon, as current recruits may be affected as well as recruits involved with replacement ( I don't know who that is, if there is anyone yet. since this may have been a surprise to the school as well).

haterinthehouse · May 14, 2008, 03:49:47 PM

looks like Stevens is looking for a new head coach

haterinthehouse · May 14, 2008, 04:24:36 PM

any idea as to where Loeffler went?

haterinthehouse · May 14, 2008, 04:36:26 PM

Bates?

gordonmann · May 15, 2008, 11:26:50 AM

Nope, that was my first guess, too, given the NESCAC connection.

The answer is posted here.

haterinthehouse · May 15, 2008, 12:02:41 PM

Why would Josh make that move. I will admit that I dont know him well, have worked camps with him in the past. But, I dont like this move for him. LaFayette assistant??? I thought he was doing some very good things at Stevens and given a couple more years of consistent results he could have had a choice of better D3 or better head coaching jobs.

FROMAFAR · May 15, 2008, 12:48:17 PM

Now the question is who takes over the Stevens job. The assistant Hurley, I believe has been there a few years and seems to have been a part of this program growing. This might be an easy transition for them. Also, any other thoughts on the other coaching openings.

haterinthehouse · May 15, 2008, 12:53:19 PM

I would think that it is very late for other quality head coaches to leave their current programs, but who knows there. Probably a quality assistant coach from somewhere. I doubt it will be a move from within the conference. Maybe another assistant from the NESCAC. But no names that come to me right now.

Pat Coleman · May 15, 2008, 03:32:26 PM

I don't think May 15 is too late for a decent coaching search.

haterinthehouse · May 15, 2008, 06:44:37 PM

I guess that when I look at that these things: camps will be starting soon, most schools have already begun recruiting for the class of 2009, you must preserve the current recruiting class, you will be stuck with whatever scheduling has been done or needs to be done - then yes I think it is getting late.

But then again, with recent events the way they are in the D3 and coaches moving around - I could always be wrong

FROMAFAR · May 16, 2008, 09:04:52 AM

It all depends on how you look at this. It may not be too late as far as the school searching goes. If they make their decision within the next few weeks, they should be OK. BUT, if they get a coach from another school, ( especially a head coach) then that school is at a disadvantage...However this looks like it will be an assistant from some program nearby... If you look this should be an attractive head coaching job........ It's location is great.. near Manhattan. The campus is right on the river, and Hoboken is a great place for restaurants, shops etc. I love going down to the City for business and arranging it around an E8 game at Stevens...While it's a tough school to get into, recruiting wise it's an attractive program academically and athletically. It looks like the incoming coach has a real nice nucleus as well. 3 starters, Grey, Greco and Passalacua. All 3 can score, Grey could be E8 POY and Greco one of the better points in the league, (he has the ability to shoot and penetrate and plays tough man defense, with Farid gone he should be given the green light this year.) Passalaqua may be the best 3 point marksman in league. Baker and Higgans give tough defense and rebounding ability. Their weekness will be their bench. Do not know the recruiting situation.

I still think Naz and Ithaca are the teams to beat... I look for Utica and Fisher to lose a step... RIT?

never can figure them.... I could change my mind before the season.........

mefor3again · May 19, 2008, 07:11:38 PM

So Memorial Day is just about on us and we have 3 coaching openings in the E8.

Any news on Alfred & Elmira? the only thing I have heard at Elmira is that there was a lot of interest in the job.

Alfred seems strange, I now the coach moved over to the girls program, heard something about him coaching his daughter.

Can either of those programs get some momentum going?

Stevens I would guess has to be a great D3 coaching job. Great location, strong academics, I would guess it has a large and good pool of coaches looking at it.

buck1053 · May 20, 2008, 10:35:01 AM

Quote from: mefor3again on May 19, 2008, 07:11:38 PM
So Memorial Day is just about on us and we have 3 coaching openings in the E8.

Any news on Alfred & Elmira? the only thing I have heard at Elmira is that there was a lot of interest in the job.

Alfred seems strange, I now the coach moved over to the girls program, heard something about him coaching his daughter.

Can either of those programs get some momentum going?

Stevens I would guess has to be a great D3 coaching job. Great location, strong academics, I would guess it has a large and good pool of coaches looking at it.

It seems like there would be a better chance to get things going in Alfred than Elmira, because AU has had good teams before, and the location is slightly better. Elmira is more metro, while Alfred is rural, but Elmira sucks as a city. And it's campus is not as nice as Alfred's, but the tradeoff is not being close to anything at AU.

Stevens is obviously the best of the three positions, with the most left in the tank for a new head guy.

I think Elmira's chances of getting something going is tougher than Alfred, for the reasons I listed above, but it really does come down to who is hired. With Alfred, the biggest thing is getting someone in there who can recruit, has some ability to game plan and can make in-game strategy changes — something that was lacking under the last head guy. Yes, he's moved on to the women's team (I guess they figured he'll keep the status quo there with a couple to five wins per season) and his daughter is transferring from St. John Fisher to AU to play for him.

Still haven't heard much about either the Elmira or Alfred positions, as far as who may be involved. I was wondering if the people in forumland think these jobs would go to assistants or head coaches from other schools? Not familiar with how hiring processes at the D3 level go, whether a school would rather get an assistant looking for their first break, or a head coach looking to improve on their location. I guess it probably comes down to who has applied and their qualifications, but didn't know if one group was better than the other.

JQV · May 20, 2008, 12:04:17 PM

If I were a coach I think I'd rather be at Alfred than Elmira.

It seems like Alfred has a better time recruiting athletes than Elmira does (based solely on some of the talent that has passed through the Football and Hoop programs) despite the fact that Elmira has nice athletic facilities.

The good news is, turning around a hoop program is much easier than turning around a football or baseball program just because you need to get in fewer studs to make a quick change.