Empire 8

[BornBalla]

Elmira coach is set, assistant from NYU. Should be a great infusion of energy and recruiting to the program.

[FROMAFAR]

Viper good points, as usual, but you have to have some reason for going to Alfred other than hoops, Sports. What's the upside? Now with a new coach, probably no track record, and without that surrouding activities, I don't know. I know I'm from a long time ago era, but I' ve seen all the campus' in the E-8.  While Elmira may be a close 2nd. Alfred is tough.....BUT as I always say, what do I know?     

[haterinthehouse]

Which NYU assistant got the job at Elmira? Torgalski? If so, not a bad choice.  Randie has plenty of experience and has had a great amount of success in upstate NY.  His background involves playing at the UR, coaching at Hamilton, and I believe he has been the top assistant at NYU. 

[JQV]

Viper good points, as usual, but you have to have some reason for going to Alfred other than hoops, Sports. What's the upside? Now with a new coach, probably no track record, and without that surrouding activities, I don't know. I know I'm from a long time ago era, but I' ve seen all the campus' in the E-8.  While Elmira may be a close 2nd. Alfred is tough.....BUT as I always say, what do I know?   

I agree about the lure of each school.  I was merely basing my opinion on the fact that Alfred seems to get players, for whatever reason.  I honestly don't know why people go there or don't.  The only part of the campus I have seen is the lockerroom and the gym.  I just remember them getting some good ballplayers in the past and getting some talented football players.  So there must be some draw (whatever it is).  I kind of assumed their recent tailspin was due more to the coach than the campus but I could be wrong.

[TheNextLevel]

Alfred campus better than Elmira?  You have to be kidding.  I agree the city of Elmira is not the greatest, but the campus itself and the facilities are very good...and the administrative support and academic scholarship money is there for any good coach to take advantage of. 

Elmira is by far a better choice than Alfred  for any coach who is capable.

[MHoops]

Which NYU assistant got the job at Elmira? Torgalski? If so, not a bad choice.  Randie has plenty of experience and has had a great amount of success in upstate NY.  His background involves playing at the UR, coaching at Hamilton, and I believe he has been the top assistant at NYU. 

The official press release is here. 

[JQV]

Alfred campus better than Elmira?  You have to be kidding.  I agree the city of Elmira is not the greatest, but the campus itself and the facilities are very good...and the administrative support and academic scholarship money is there for any good coach to take advantage of. 

Elmira is by far a better choice than Alfred  for any coach who is capable.

Calm down. 

Re-read my posts.  I have no idea which campus is better.  I have never seen anything other than the gym (and AU's football stadium).  In fact, I think I said that EC had a nice facility.  I was merely saying that AU seems to have more success recruiting than EC in all sports and something must be contributing to that. 

[TheNextLevel]

Jose

I was responding to  "buck1053" comments, not yours.  Sorry for the confusion. 

Your post was accurate, (at least in men's athletic's).  I don't understand why the men's team has not been able to recruit better either.
Not having Football hurts, because football seems to bring a lot of intangeables to any campus.

Hopefully Torgalski will be able to succeed.  I like the pick.

[JQV]

Jose

I was responding to  "buck1053" comments, not yours.  Sorry for the confusion. 

Your post was accurate, (at least in men's athletic's).  I don't understand why the men's team has not been able to recruit better either.
Not having Football hurts, because football seems to bring a lot of intangeables to any campus.

Hopefully Torgalski will be able to succeed.  I like the pick.

No football hurts but, if I had to guess, I would say the biggest problem is likely financial aid.  If memory serves, a lot of d3 coaches say the final decision for recruits comes done to money (which isn't all that surprising).  Maybe AU is more active when it comes to fin. aid that Elmira is.

[TheNextLevel]

Money is not the problem. Elmira has great academic aid packages, but they stress the academic part.  They will not knowingly admit borderline students no matter what the athletic ability is.  Maybe that's the difference



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No football hurts but, if I had to guess, I would say the biggest problem is likely financial aid.  If memory serves, a lot of d3 coaches say the final decision for recruits comes done to money (which isn't all that surprising).  Maybe AU is more active when it comes to fin. aid that Elmira is.
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[buck1053]

This post was on the NESCAC board for potential replacements for Dave Paulsen at Williams.

To throw some names or idea's out there: Bill Fenlon head coach at DePauw, Greg Mason head coach from Centre, Tobin Anderson head coach at Hamilton and former assistant for Paulsen, Izzy Metz head coach at Hobart and former assistant at Cornell, Rob Kornacker head coach at St. John Fisher College, Todd Montana head coach at Green Mountain and former assistant at LeMoyne, Mike Beitzel former head coach at Hanover, and any number of possible assistant coaches. 

Any of these names rumored for the open E8 jobs?

[FROMAFAR]

There has to be a lot of scrambling going on right now. With all the openings, and the possibilities of coaches leaving one program for another, leaving their position open, makes your head spin.  Those schools interviewing should make up their minds quickly, because the applicants, whoever they are, must be sending in resumes all over the place. It is going to create some good posts once the smoke settles. I am really interested in who get's the E-8 jobs....and of course Paulsens replacement.  My guess is an assistant current or past, but someone who comes from the program. Kornacker sort of fits the mold, BUT I think they want someone used to recruiting high I.Q. athletes. Loefler would have been a good fit, since he was there and he continued with the high I.Q. recruiting at Stevens. Wonder if he accepted Lafayette too quickly... Who knows maybe more money at Lafayette as an assistant, or a promise down the road??? Never know. My interest is in the incoming recruits as well. Anybody out there have anything?     

[superman57]

I must say that I will be shocked if, Kornaker leaves, he has a solid program, a growing school, a supportive school, and he is local and has young kids, can't ask for much more if you ask me, does he deserve something better I think so, but Fisher is a good place

[Pat Coleman]

This post was on the NESCAC board for potential replacements for Dave Paulsen at Williams.

To throw some names or idea's out there: Bill Fenlon head coach at DePauw, Greg Mason head coach from Centre, Tobin Anderson head coach at Hamilton and former assistant for Paulsen, Izzy Metz head coach at Hobart and former assistant at Cornell, Rob Kornacker head coach at St. John Fisher College, Todd Montana head coach at Green Mountain and former assistant at LeMoyne, Mike Beitzel former head coach at Hanover, and any number of possible assistant coaches. 

Any of these names rumored for the open E8 jobs?

For most of these Alfred is a step down, and I think Stevens is for many as well.

[FROMAFAR]

This post was on the NESCAC board for potential replacements for Dave Paulsen at Williams.

To throw some names or idea's out there: Bill Fenlon head coach at DePauw, Greg Mason head coach from Centre, Tobin Anderson head coach at Hamilton and former assistant for Paulsen, Izzy Metz head coach at Hobart and former assistant at Cornell, Rob Kornacker head coach at St. John Fisher College, Todd Montana head coach at Green Mountain and former assistant at LeMoyne, Mike Beitzel former head coach at Hanover, and any number of possible assistant coaches. 

Any of these names rumored for the open E8 jobs?

For most of these Alfred is a step down, and I think Stevens is for many as well.