Empire 8

[dewcrew88]

Budcrew and UCGrad this is no offense to you guys at all both of you are great level headed posters and I do enjoy reading your posts, but before Utica starts acting like they're going to the Tourny, you have to beat the Champ, and right now fisher is still the Champ.   The funniest thing from last nights Fisher Alfred game was Alfred fans Screaming Nazareth at the fisher side at which point a fisher student pointed out that Alfred had lost to Naz to and then they sat down.

Hey, superdood:
I have never said that Utica is going anywhere. Right now, until further review, they are still the 2nd place team in the Empire 8. In the words of Ric Flair "to be the man you have to beat the man!" Fisher, until proven otherwise, is still the man. Although if it came down to Fisher and Utica for the E8 title, it would be a great thing for the conference.

[superman57]

absolutly and I hope that you are able to get out here for the Fisher Utica game it should be a good game.

[gobombers15]

Secondly, if Hartwick wins 6 conference games I'll never post again on Post Patterns. Book it. If they get that sixth conference win, I'll sign off forever. Pat Coleman can block me from the site. I don't care what it takes, I would never post again.

Ticket to an Empire 8 Game: $5
Program: $1.50
Sprite, hot dog, popcorn, candy bar (to benefit the Pocahontas Society): $6
Face paint: $4
Pre-Game festivities: $15

GoBombers15, being banned from this message board: Priceless

In the words of Chris Rock, "yeah I said it, it HAD to be said!" MadHawk, I'm glad you took the time to read my post that Cortland predictably beat Ithaca. How do road losses to Utica and Cortland constitute Ithaca entering a downward spiral? Ithaca isn't a good road team, anways, so they shouldn't beat the SUNYAC leaders and the 2nd best team in E8 at their places. That said, Ithaca was still a good enough road team to beat Hartwick and would beat the Hawks anywhere at any time.

As for my potential self-imposed "ban," I think I'm pretty safe on that one. Hartwick has already played five home games within the conference and is 1-4. For me to never post again, Hartwick would have to go 5-4 in their last nine games, seven of which are on the road. Besides the fact that 'Wick hasn't won a road game in the conference since I was in college(and I was an underclassmen), I don't think they'll be taking at least 3 games on the road this year. In fact, I'm so confident, I'll up the ante just to rub it in your face further. HARTWICK WON'T WIN 4 CONFERENCE GAMES and if they do, I'll never post again. Believe me, I'm still confident about that, Hartwick sucks. Period.

[gobombers15]

MadHawk, I also see that I'm such an icon to you that you have decided to spend the time to google image search my picture of "Prince" and even quote me below that. Have you gone so far as to order Ithaca and Tulane memorabilia yet?

By the way, how do you spend $5 for a ticket to an E8 game? I'm not sure I've spent more than $5 on E8 basketball since my freshman year.

[dewcrew88]

MadHawk, I also see that I'm such an icon to you that you have decided to spend the time to google image search my picture of "Prince" and even quote me below that. Have you gone so far as to order Ithaca and Tulane memorabilia yet?

By the way, how do you spend $5 for a ticket to an E8 game? I'm not sure I've spend more the $5 on E8 basketball since my freshman year.

I know that tickets are $4 at Utica for basketball games for adults, but they are only $2 for non- UC students, and free for UC students and staff.

[UCgrad45]

Budcrew and UCGrad this is no offense to you guys at all both of you are great level headed posters and I do enjoy reading your posts, but before Utica starts acting like they're going to the Tourny, you have to beat the Champ, and right now fisher is still the Champ.   The funniest thing from last nights Fisher Alfred game was Alfred fans Screaming Nazareth at the fisher side at which point a fisher student pointed out that Alfred had lost to Naz to and then they sat down.

I agree that we have to beat Fisher first. We also have to get it done in all our other games. In the first game againt Fisher, we dominated them in every aspect of the game. We simply beat ourselves.  I just feel that this is the best chance Utica has had since I have been around the team.

Being close to the team since 1999, I can honestly say that this team is nothing like Utica teams of the past. Just having the record that they currently do at this point in the season is evidence of that to those outside of the program/school. We may not win the conference, but we definately have a great chance of winning it this season.

A win over Fisher in one of our two remaining possible match ups against them could also get us an at large bid, providing we beat Oswego and take care of business as we should in league. There is a lot that can happen. I am just happy to be able to have such a fun and exciting season.

[superman57]

UC Grad the only way the Utica will even be able to get an at large bid is if one they maul fisher at Fisher and win out the rest of the season impresively,  I mean I am never shocked at anything that happens in college basketball take North Dakota State for example, but Fisher has won 41 of the last 42 games at home and the one game they did lose the shot went in after the buzzer,  I am saying this after Tivoing the game and watching really closely for 45 minutes.  So best of luck to Utica but I don't think there will be any at large bids for the E8 this year I think any team who wants to go needs to win out.

[Caz Bombers]

Superman, you may be right about one bid (and probably are), but the selection committee has been rather nice to teams from this part of the country; some would say overly nice. 

Brockport and Plymouth State unexpectedly got bids in 2004 (I think); this caused The Guru to flip out ninja-style and read the selection committee the riot act on the front page of d3hoops.com.  Good times.

Utica's regional winning percentage will end up looking very good and their QOWI could be solid also thanks to overachieving teams like SUNYIT.  The NCAA's formula and procedure could very well net this league 2 bids even if we don't necessarily deserve it on our own merits.

[bearseh]

Not only did Brockport receive a 2004 bid, they were seeded high enough to receive a first round bye and consequently, a second round home game. I thought then that they deserved an at lage bid but not a seeding for the bye.

Best of luck to SJF and Utica. Hope for 2 bids springs eternal but the selection gurus move in very mysterious ways.

[gobombers15]

The next five games for Utica will determine their chances at an at-large selection. If they do any worse than 4-1, I think we can kiss the bid goodbye.

@Naz
@RIT
@Alfred
@Fisher
@Oswego

I say that because assuming they're up for an at-large bid would infer Utica lost in the E8 tourney. That may sound obvious but I'm not sure what they're teaching at Hartwick or in SOME of the Utica classes(not you, Budcrew, don't worry). If Utica finishes with four losses, I think they're in. If the finish with five, I'm unsure but leaning more towards no. That Oswego game is huge because both teams are right about in the same position. If Oswego beats them and both teams come up for an at-large bid, the committee will take the winner of that game.

As much as I rip Clear, I'm obviously rooting for as many teams as possible from the E8 in the dance. After Ithaca, my loyalty is to the E8.

[John McGraw]

Worst ever NCAA at-large selection.....

Cazenovia College in 2001-2002

After receiving their bid into the tournament, they were promptly given a Charlie Murphy on Rick James @$$ whoopin and sent packing by Williams.

[Caz Bombers]

Worst ever NCAA at-large selection.....

Cazenovia College in 2001-2002

After receiving their bid into the tournament, they were promptly given a Charlie Murphy on Rick James @$$ whoopin and sent packing by Williams.

That one gets brought up every year like clockwork, and it's always fun to reminisce on it.  It was a Pool B bid, somebody's got to get those I guess.  I don't recall the specifics all that well, (other than that they finished FOURTH in the NEAC and still got in) but there were a few Cazenovia fans on here that were jerks and actually proposed straight-faced that they belonged and could beat Williams, one of the best in the nation that year. 

Best post was after their 70-point loss when one of their fans said something to the effect of "it really could have gone either way, but Williams was just the better team tonight."  Hi-larious.  Come to think of it, sounds like something Mad Hawk or ClearConceit might write.

[tigerfan2]

Potentially bad news for GB15 and the other IC fans. Apparently the news on Brian Joe is not good. I understand that he went in for an MRI on his knee and his status for the rest of the season is in doubt.

IC will struggle down the stretch if they can't get him back.

[clearconceit]

Why the hostility towards me?  I am not like Mad Hawk - the difference my team is kicking XXX.  We can get a bid and that is a real chance.  I don't see anyone beating us up to the Fisher game.  Maybe I am over confident maybe I am onto something, that remains to be seen.  Unlike some of you who rip other schools ect I don't do that. 
I believe Utica is the best team.  I could care less if Ithaca or Hartwick wins games etc.  i just Want Utica to win.
And I would never make excuses for a loss. 

As I already predicted on here:
Utica by 20 over Naz
Utica by 16 over RIT

The bus rolling people.... hop aboard!!!!!!!

[gobombers15]

Potentially bad news for GB15 and the other IC fans. Apparently the news on Brian Joe is not good. I understand that he went in for an MRI on his knee and his status for the rest of the season is in doubt.

IC will struggle down the stretch if they can't get him back.

Yes, that is bad news. In terms of "bad news received today," I'd have to rank that one right behind finding out we're not getting our new fridge for another ten days but just ahead of learning wrestling isn't real. In all seriousness, that injury hurts the Bombers a lot. I think Joe is their 3rd best player (behind Bellis, Andruskiewicz). He is their one consistent outside shooter and he's quick enough to guard PG's, allowing Whetstone who is taller than most guards to match-up with the other team's swingman.

But like I've always said, injuries are not an excuse. Ithaca will have to change their style of play or find someone who can match Joe's production. It's time for Brad Clemente to step up. I thought he was going to be a starter this year and I don't know if he has a nagging injury or he's in the doghouse but he keeps going in and out of the rotation. Freshman Brian Kern seems like he has a good future and has showed flashes of very good play. Maybe Tigerbro2 might have to step in and contribute. We'll see.