Empire 8

[UCgrad45]

Typical loser response from the grad of a school with a loser athletic department.

Says a lot about the class of Utica College. The way you talk about officials, especially when you allegedly deal with them on a regular basis, and comment on other schools' players and coaches is beyond unprofessional. It's laughable and borderline pathetic.

LOL. Pot, meet kettle.

Yeah, kind of the same. Except that I don't represent the school in any way. Nor do I claim to. So, actually, not the same at all. And the whole "you can't quit me" thing would have much more effect if you didn't give me 500 words each time I made a valid point that you can't refute (which is just about all of them).

Considering that I don't represent them anymore due to health problems of my family, and the things you claimed were false, it is exactly the same. And the next time you have a valid point will be the first.

Still offended by me giving props to your assistants? The nerve of me to talk about coaches like that! How about this kettle, the way you trashed Mullins is what is pathetic and laughable. Give the guy some respect. He built a quality team even when getting verbally abused from people like you from his own school. Calling for his job.... guy will probably get coach of the year nominations...

And once again Kettle, didn't you just trash Utica's coaching just yesterday? Hmmm....... maybe you should buy yourself a mirror.

[bombersquadron]

UCgrad, don't know you or GoBombers personally but I do believe you are wrong with your impression on Ithaca. They have more than one thing going for them. I thought that they would lack mental toughness after watching almost every game last season but they have proven me wrong all-season. Also, not only can they score and run teams off the floor, but when a team changes the tempo (Hartwick) or when it is close at the end they step their play up. They have stepped up big in the closing minutes of close games.

Even the RIT game, they made it close down the stretch and got themselves in that position after a bad performance for the majority of the game. They also rebounded from that fluke loss, the call that was clearly wrong but to keep going and playing well after that shows toughness. I know when I played that may have snowballed into a losing streak. Lastly, Burton is playing at a top notch level every game and when one player has a off night, someone else steps it up big.

Ithaca wins 75-66. Which reminds me, besides having a great offense they can also hit free throws, which makes them so close in tough games. I have to say Bostic playing tonight makes a huge difference and he was noticeably limping all game. It was really bad after a fast break lay-up off a great baseball pass from Burton in the closing minutes.

I think Ithaca is very tough and even though the offensive fire power makes it seem like they only have one thing going, the also have few more things: 1A- Play well in the end of close games. 1B- shoot free throws well. 2- Have mental toughness 3- Have solid 8-9 man rotation.

[UCgrad45]

BTW, UC and Oswego are in a 1 point game with 19 seconds left. No matter how it ends, I doubt it is as crazy as the Oswego Geneseo finish.

[UCgrad45]

UCgrad, don't know you or GoBombers personally but I do believe you are wrong with your impression on Ithaca. They have more than one thing going for them. I thought that they lack mental toughness but they have proven me wrong all-season. Not only can they score and run teams off the floor, but when a team changes the tempo (Hartwick) or when it is close at the end they play even better. They have stepped up big in the closing minutes of close games.

Even the RIT game, they made it close down the stretch and got themselves in that position after a bad performance for the majority of the game. They also rebounded from that fluke loss, call that was clearly wrong to keep going. I know when I played they would have snowballed into a losing streak. Burton is playing at a top notch level every game and when someone has a off night, someone else steps it up big.

Ithaca wins 75-66. Which reminds me, besides having a great offense they can also hit free throws, which makes them so close in tough games. I have to say Bostic playing makes a huge difference and he was noticeably limping all game. Really badly after a fast break lay-up off a great baseball pass from Burton in the closing minutes. So I think Ithaca is very tough and even though the offensive fire power makes it seem like they only have one thing going, the also 1. Play well in the end of close games 2. (which goes with 1) shoot free throws well 3. Have mental toughness 4. Have solid 8-9 man rotation.

Oh, no doubt. In a close game they have an edge about them. I won't deny that.

The only thing that worries me about them is how they will respond to back to back games against tournament quality teams. The league really needs to add another team to give the experience every week of back to back games like it always was.

[UCgrad45]

UC scores with 10 seconds left and Herring gets a steal at the buzzer to win by one.

[gobombers15]

Typical loser response from the grad of a school with a loser athletic department.

Says a lot about the class of Utica College. The way you talk about officials, especially when you allegedly deal with them on a regular basis, and comment on other schools' players and coaches is beyond unprofessional. It's laughable and borderline pathetic.

LOL. Pot, meet kettle.

Yeah, kind of the same. Except that I don't represent the school in any way. Nor do I claim to. So, actually, not the same at all. And the whole "you can't quit me" thing would have much more effect if you didn't give me 500 words each time I made a valid point that you can't refute (which is just about all of them).

Considering that I don't represent them anymore due to health problems of my family, and the things you claimed were false, it is exactly the same. And the next time you have a valid point will be the first.

Still offended by me giving props to your assistants? The nerve of me to talk about coaches like that! How about this kettle, the way you trashed Mullins is what is pathetic and laughable. Give the guy some respect. He built a quality team even when getting verbally abused from people like you from his own school. Calling for his job.... guy will probably get coach of the year nominations...

And once again Kettle, didn't you just trash Utica's coaching just yesterday? Hmmm....... maybe you should buy yourself a mirror.

Yeah, I said this year's Utica team is poorly coached. That's trashing their coaching staff? And you're calling me insecure and sensitive? I think that's what psychologists refer to as projecting, right Mr. Message Board Therapist? And didn't you say just today you were running the "official" book for Saturday's game. That's a school representative, pal. How am I suppose to keep track of your story when you can't even seem to. And, by the way, earlier I was "viewing the world through blue and gold glasses" and now I'm being "disrespectful" to Ithaca's coach. Are you even trying to keep your story straight?

And I trash Mullins? Not at all. I question him sometimes, sure, but I'm objective about it. I'm going to say something when you switch to zone when the best 3pt shooter in the league checks into the game. I'm going to say something when you have one of the top returning players in the conference and you don't utilize him as well as you could. I said last year he deserved Coach of the Year, didn't I? Sorry I'm not a blind lemming towards my alma mater like you seem to be.

And the 23-7 UC team would be undefeated in this year's conference? Tough sell when you lost to a 14-13 RIT team that doesn't come close to this year's version of RIT or Ithaca. But what was the reason for that loss again? Rochester refs, I bet.

[UCgrad45]

Typical loser response from the grad of a school with a loser athletic department.

Says a lot about the class of Utica College. The way you talk about officials, especially when you allegedly deal with them on a regular basis, and comment on other schools' players and coaches is beyond unprofessional. It's laughable and borderline pathetic.

LOL. Pot, meet kettle.

Yeah, kind of the same. Except that I don't represent the school in any way. Nor do I claim to. So, actually, not the same at all. And the whole "you can't quit me" thing would have much more effect if you didn't give me 500 words each time I made a valid point that you can't refute (which is just about all of them).

Considering that I don't represent them anymore due to health problems of my family, and the things you claimed were false, it is exactly the same. And the next time you have a valid point will be the first.

Still offended by me giving props to your assistants? The nerve of me to talk about coaches like that! How about this kettle, the way you trashed Mullins is what is pathetic and laughable. Give the guy some respect. He built a quality team even when getting verbally abused from people like you from his own school. Calling for his job.... guy will probably get coach of the year nominations...

And once again Kettle, didn't you just trash Utica's coaching just yesterday? Hmmm....... maybe you should buy yourself a mirror.

Yeah, I said this year's Utica team is poorly coached. That's trashing their coaching staff? And you're calling me insecure and sensitive? I think that's what psychologists refer to as projecting, right Mr. Message Board Therapist? And didn't you say just today you were running the "official" book for Saturday's game. That's a school representative, pal. How am I suppose to keep track of your story when you can't even seem to. And, by the way, earlier I was "viewing the world through blue and gold glasses" and now I'm being "disrespectful" to Ithaca's coach. Are you even trying to keep your story straight?

And I trash Mullins? Not at all. I question him sometimes, sure, but I'm objective about it. I'm going to say something when you switch to zone when the best 3pt shooter in the league checks into the game. I'm going to say something when you have one of the top returning players in the conference and you don't utilize him as well as you could. I said last year he deserved Coach of the Year, didn't I? Sorry I'm not a blind lemming towards my alma mater like you seem to be.

And the 23-7 UC team would be undefeated in this year's conference? Tough sell when you lost to a 14-13 RIT team that doesn't come close to this year's version of RIT or Ithaca. But what was the reason for that loss again? Rochester refs, I bet.

For someone who skips over my posts, you sure do have a lot of detail. And no I didn't say I was doing their official book, just that I kept the running score and times. But yes, I did do it for one game this year as it was alumni weekend.

And yes, the Fisher and Utica teams of that year would dominate every team in the league this year. UC's fourth best player on that team is on par with Burton. Position by position Herring V Burton, push. Cichon Vs. Anyone else, Cichon, Bryant V anyone else, Bryant. Lucas V Rogers Lucas, Lighthall V Bostic, Push.
The bench of Collier, Munch, Brown, Bitetto, and Fleming  would have been quality starters on most of the teams in the conference this year. In fact the 5 of them could compete for anywhere from 3rd through 5th this season.

[UCgrad45]

And oh yeah, gobombers has had his disdain for me since this day

http://www.ithaca.edu/ithacan/articles/0603/01/sports/3utica_end.htm

Reading that article, it sure sounds like to players, the regular season title means sooooo much more than NCAA's. Oh wait....

[UCgrad45]

BTW, Bellis was a real good guy. What is he doing these days?

[Michigan452]

Overall a hard fought game by both teams.  I think it comes down to coaching though.  Fisher should have called a timeout when Ithaca made the run at the end of the half.  And down the stretch Fisher made some very wierd substitutions.  Newman played a great game and Burton did what was expected.  Rodgers was very impressive also.

[gobombers15]

Wow, the fourth best player on Utica would be on par with Sean Burton, huh? The word of the day is "hyperbole." The kid is going to finish with 1700 pts (more than Cichon). Burton will also be the leading assist guy in conference history by the end of the weekend, too. So the conference's all-time leading scorer and assist guy would only be the fourth best guy on a 23-7 team, huh? And Bostic, who may end up being a three-time 1st-team E8 player, is only on par with Jack Lighthall. Classic.

UCgrad, scouring the Ithaca student newspapers to create more nonsense. Really? That's where you are right now? And when we win the regular season conference, the conference tourney and win two games in the NCAA Tourney, what drivel are you going to run then?

[UCgrad45]

Wow, the fourth best player on Utica would be on par with Sean Burton, huh? The word of the day is "hyperbole." The kid is going to finish with 1700 pts (more than Cichon). Burton will also be the leading assist guy in conference history by the end of the weekend, too. So the conference's all-time leading scorer and assist guy would only be the fourth best guy on a 23-7 team, huh? And Bostic, who may end up being a three-time 1st-team E8 player, is only on par with Jack Lighthall. Classic.

UCgrad, scouring the Ithaca student newspapers to create more nonsense. Really? That's where you are right now? And when we win the regular season conference, the conference tourney and win two games in the NCAA Tourney, what drivel are you going to run then?

Cichon scores 1500 career points, Herring will score 1,500, Lucas scored 1,000 while missing a full seasons worth of time, and Bryant scored 913 and had almost 500 rebounds in just two seasons. There isn't a team in the conference this year that will be able to say they had 4 players of that caliber on their roster at one time. Lighthall is the conferences all time leader in FG%.

All 4 of them would have had even higher numbers if not for having spread the ball around to each other. As a team they averaged 18.8 assists per game, the highest in conference history. Herring was the 4th option on that team.

And IF Ithaca goes that far, I will congratulate them. I just don't see them as ready to do it yet.

[tigerfan2]

In other news, RIT moved to 11-0 in the conference and officially clinched a spot in the conference tourney with a 75-58 win over Alfred tonight.

S. Roe with a career high 20 points and Carson went for 13 and 11 in 21 minutes of action.

Next game for the Tigers is a week from today when they play SJF on the road. I know they beat SJF by 20 points earlier this year they always seem to be on the losing end playing at Fisher. Here's hoping this year's team turns that trend around.

[owen]

St. John Fisher, either have the play by play people give them time more often or point the camera at the scoreboard during time-outs. About six minutes left, a Fisher player (Jordan Gettings) just hit a shot to put them up 1-point.

Burton just hit a deep three, now Ithaca is up four. I think the Fisher female annoucer has a crush on Burton.

2:30 left, IC up three.

Indeed, I kept wondering how much time was left too. The announcers went LONG periods of time letting us wonder about the clock.

P.S. That Fisher gym!
Now I get it. It really IS a bandbox. The crowd seemed pretty quiet tonight, but I can see where it could be a nightmare to be a visiting team there. They're practically sitting on the court. It's claustrophobic!

[UCgrad45]

St. John Fisher, either have the play by play people give them time more often or point the camera at the scoreboard during time-outs. About six minutes left, a Fisher player (Jordan Gettings) just hit a shot to put them up 1-point.

Burton just hit a deep three, now Ithaca is up four. I think the Fisher female annoucer has a crush on Burton.

2:30 left, IC up three.

Indeed, I kept wondering how much time was left too. The announcers went LONG periods of time letting us wonder about the clock.

P.S. That Fisher gym!
Now I get it. It really IS a bandbox. The crowd seemed pretty quiet tonight, but I can see where it could be a nightmare to be a visiting team there. They're practically sitting on the court. It's claustrophobic!

LOL, it used to be a lot worse when the students were almost on the court.