Empire 8

[theoriginalupstate]

Someone brought up an interesting question, which, (no surprise) I didn't know the answer....I'm sure one of you guys will know. If a student plays 3 years in a D 3 sport.... use basketball because that's this web. He/she  graduates....... they go to another D 3 school for graduate studies. Can they play one year of basketball at that school?   This came up due to the Paulus issue... going to Syracuse to play football. I know it's a little different. I believe a student has 5 years eligibility to play college sports, 4 years in one sport. Paulus 5th year in different sport.... but it raised the above question........ 

D3 uses the 10 semester rule....

10 semesters of full time enrollment to complete 4 seasons of sport(s)...

[FROMAFAR]

Thanks for helping out UPSTATE.... so let me give you a scenario... Young lady plays Lax Freshman Sophomore and Senior year. Same young lady played Tennis Junior year. All at same D 3 school in 8 semesters.  She attends another D 3 school full time Grad student. Can she play
1. LAX one year.
2. LAX and Tennis one year.

All within the 10 semesters? 

[WNYHoops]

She can't play at all in graduate school unless she is at the same school she received her undergrad degree from and is still within the 10 semesters as Upstate pointed out. The deal with Paulus playing football in grad school is a Division I rule where he could play another sport as long as it is within 5 years of his initial enrollment. But at DIII you cannot play in grad school if you have a degree from another institution.

[FROMAFAR]

WNY and Upstate, thanks for the response. I get it..... getting answers on this web is easier than google.........as always what do I know, but I do know you guys are great.

[buck1053]

Well, the E8 lost another coach, as Paul Culpo has left Hartwick to take the Castleton job. Any thoughts on his replacements yet? Perhaps Chris Connolly will try to jump to his third E8 team (Elmira, Utica and Hartwick), since he played at Hartwick. That's not likely, though, since he didn't get the job when Culpo was hired and Utica has a better recent tradition.

Thoughts?

[TheNextLevel]

That's to bad, but understandable.  Culpo has done a great job rebuilding at Hartwick, but it is a tough place to recruit to.  I'm Not sure Castleton is an upward move, but the the pay is  probably better. 

I doubt Connelly will move - he likes it at Utica and it is, at least right now, a better job.

Well, the E8 lost another coach, as Paul Culpo has left Hartwick to take the Castleton job. Any thoughts on his replacements yet? Perhaps Chris Connolly will try to jump to his third E8 team (Elmira, Utica and Hartwick), since he played at Hartwick. That's not likely, though, since he didn't get the job when Culpo was hired and Utica has a better recent tradition.

Thoughts?

[buck1053]

The Connolly quip wasn't serious, that would be too much job hopping in the same league and, like I said, he didn't get the job before (and as a basketball alumnus from Hartwick), so I'm not sure he'd garner that much interest.

The Culpo news was first reported on this site yesterday (May 20), so there's probably not too much grapevine talk yet. I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything.

[FROMAFAR]

Culpo is an interesting coach. Recruiting tough at Hartwick and he had some tough kids. Never any depth and hard to tell how his X's and O's were, with Coco there. Kinda had to let him go......  I'm going to guess an assistant from E-8 maybe Fisher.

JUST A GUESS!!!!!!!  

[AUPepBand]

You think recruiting is tough at Hartwick? Try Alfred! Yet, from what I've heard, Coach Dale Wellman has eight recruits who have paid their deposits and are coming from California, Texas and Virginia, to name a few states, in addition to NY.

Pep is getting pumped for AU football and basketball and is hoping to see some enthusiasm from the student body in 2009-2010...the AU Pep Band needs more members to make appearances at both football and basketball games.

On Saxon Warriors!

[sjfcards]

I hear now it is almost assured that Nazareth will be moving to the LL to take Hamilton's spot. Not sure if LL is looking to add any more. That would leave both conferences with 8 schools.

Has there been any updates on the schools that were rumored to be leaving the E8, and heading to the LL? The LL profile for member schools seems to fit RIT and Ithaca closely, but I hear Naz is a prime candidate. My hope is that none of them leave, but who knows. Any information out there?

[TheNextLevel]

Any new on the Hartwick search? 
an yes AUPep...I agree, Alfred would also be a very tough place recruit.

[buck1053]

Haven't heard anything on the Hartwick grapevine, has anyone else?

As for recruiting, from what I understand, Alfred would get the nod above Hartwick, not necessarily for the location, but for how recruits can get packaged. Deals are better at AU than Wick, believe it or not.

And, for the E8-LL scuttlebutt, I haven't heard anything further, but it seems that Ithaca would be the better fit for the LL, if they are only going to take one team. They are closer in proximity than Naz and would make a better travel partner for Hobart. Naz would be the second best out of the E8, and RIT really doesn't fit well in the LL, based on profile.

[FROMAFAR]

I would think if anything were going to happen, (an E-8 going to LL)  should have happened already. Unless it will happen the following year. BUT what do I know

[Pat Coleman]

I don't think any of the discussed changes were to take effect in 2009-10.

[btlew]

Noticed this in the Sunday Democrat and Chronicle and it has kind of flown under the radar here:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090606/SPORTS09/906060322/1007/SPORTS/RIT+joining+Liberty+League

Interesting that it was in the paper ... but nothing on RITs site or the Liberty League site.  Maybe due to the 'pending approval' caveat that was stated in the story.

I find it interesting that people on this board thought Naz or Ithaca were better fits.  I all along thought RIT was a better fit given the D1 hockey that many of the other schools share.  From a student-athlete perspective, I would think that RIT shares more in common with RPI, Clarkson, etc. than pretty much anyone in the Empire 8.  There were rumors they tried unsuccessfully to make the switch a few years ago ... I am surprised it took this long to find a new home.

Now the question is what does RIT do with some of their local rivalries?  UR will always stay on the schedule and them switching leagues does not impact basketball.  But without the Chase, do they try and keep an annual series with Fisher and Naz?  Cost wise it makes sense ... but I do not think RIT was ever a big fan of Fisher joining the Empire 8.  Maybe this gives them the ability to distance themselves a bit from them.

Will be interesting to see the reaction during their lame duck season forthcoming ...