Empire 8

[JQV]

Ohhh, I see what you did now.


Umm, when reading a box score, above Field Goal Attempts and Makes it says "Total".  So when doing averages, you don't add that column to the 3 point attempts and makes.  That is factored into the total.  Someone who is 3-10 from the field and 3-3 from 3 isn't 6-13 total.  He's just 0-7 from 2.

Wait.  Are you sure?

[sjfcards]

Should be interesting to see how Fisher comes back after the long layoff from game 1 to game 2. After they played well on the road, so we will see how they look at home against a very good Brockport team. I am excited to see what they can do.

I'll take Fisher by 5-10. Something like 75-68. Hopefully we can see more of the freshman and newcomers tomorrow. I am going to the Cuse game tomorrow, so I can't make it to the game. Anyone else going?

[bomber3]

Wish I was going to the cuse game...cornell is good and has the shooters and experience to hang around. They've almost beaten them a couple of times the past few years with the same core of players and wouldn't be surprised if they finally got them this year. Not sure who I want to win yet.

Ithaca is home against Oneonta (2-0) tonight in what I expect to be a tough game.  Oneonta returns a lot from a team that had IC by 6 with under 2 to go before losing in ot last year.  Beckford is long, athletic and IC needs to keep him off the glass.  Hopefully IC can go into a short break on a good note with a solid 3-1 record before taking on the other sunyac Red Dragons next week (seriously, can't have two schools in the same conference with the same nickname- that's pathetic...cortland/oneonta figure it out!)

[FisherDynasty]

Having known the past Amherst teams and program very well, Even though they lost a lot, there reserves are better than most e8 teams.  I am assuming Ithaca had to put up a lot of 3 and take the risk of being on fire in order for the game not to be out of hand.  I doubt ithaca had an option to through it inside against amherts bigs.

[FROMAFAR]

Magicman, sorry I took so long to respond to your analysis on the Tigers. Great Job by the way. You covered it all. I don't get up there enough to get a handle, try to get to Stevens as much as I can to see the E-8..Korinichak being out hurts.... I get the impression we are a little aimless out there. You guys know I believe you need a floor general, someone to hold it together... I don't think we have that. Carson did that for us, even though it usually comes from the guard spot. Lowe and Anderson 1-10 and only 2 foul shots, means no penetration....... Young with 37 scares me, I like the scoring to be spread out.. 9x13 from  3's.......This team doesn't have a personality yet, and again I am scared.... I want a solid day in day out point, and I would like at least 3 in double figures scoring consistantly... doesn't have to be the same 3, actually better if it isn't.....Again probably too early to make judgements, but I am truly worried about this team. Very possible we don't finish in top 4........
 

[FROMAFAR]

Oh yea, almost forgot, I saw Stevens Sunday........Hey talk about the scoring being spread out, 4 of the 5 starters in double figures, and Masone the 5th man with 8. My guy Greco spreading it out, he had 17 assists in the two games in tip off classic, and scored 16 and 13 respectively.  A little McAdamsesque in that he had a lot of assists but also turned it over a bit.  He has that hard nose attitude and not afraid to pull the trigger on passes... sometimes it's good sometimes bad. BUT better than last year.....at least someone is taking control on the court.  Higgans is unconscious, I believe he was something like 16-17 from the field in the two games, don't hold me to it, but close enough. Cutri is hitting shots and Simon is making free throws and scoring inside. BUT CYCLONE is correct, they have to figure out how to defend inside... That could be their waterloo. Bottom line, this team as compared to last year, seems happier and is taking on a personality. Last year it was look for Grey to the hole, and Passalaqua shooting, no one else involved.... Hurley seems to be loosening the reins a little on the deliberate play and letting them create, which I think they do best. The two freshman, Jones and Thompson, nice off the bench... some freshman mistakes , but could learn a lot from the seniors this year, and also contribute this year.  Now I know the teams they beat could be very suspect, but this has to help the chemistry. OH what do I know

[bomber3]

In other totally unrelated news, Ithaca has a new assistant on the bench as of last week when 2009 grad Peter Freidland joined the squad.  Peter brings a wealth of knowledge to the team including how to master old man post moves, how to become the d3 equivalent of Arvydas Sabonis, and mastering the art of chest shaving.

Look for the young Bomber freshman to take great strides in these areas in the future.

[mrhoopfan]

Magicman, sorry I took so long to respond to your analysis on the Tigers. Great Job by the way. You covered it all. I don't get up there enough to get a handle, try to get to Stevens as much as I can to see the E-8..Korinichak being out hurts.... I get the impression we are a little aimless out there. You guys know I believe you need a floor general, someone to hold it together... I don't think we have that. Carson did that for us, even though it usually comes from the guard spot. Lowe and Anderson 1-10 and only 2 foul shots, means no penetration....... Young with 37 scares me, I like the scoring to be spread out.. 9x13 from  3's.......This team doesn't have a personality yet, and again I am scared.... I want a solid day in day out point, and I would like at least 3 in double figures scoring consistantly... doesn't have to be the same 3, actually better if it isn't.....Again probably too early to make judgements, but I am truly worried about this team. Very possible we don't finish in top 4........
 
Don't worry, Tigers will be a second semester squad. They don't have an identity yet with carson having graduated. They are also running some new things offensively. Terry will be a beast and Harder gets better by the game. Korinchak returning will give them a boost in the leadership and energy categories. The Tigers could've easily won both games

[muletrain]

Looks like Assistant coach Mahanna has the Fisher offense in mid-season form. Empire 8 defenses beware.

[magicman]

Ithaca loses a tight one to visiting Oneonta State 85-83. Red Dragons move to 3-0 and next host Potsdam St on Dec 4th.

Bombers fall to 2-2. Host the other Red Dragons on Dec. 1st in what should prove to be another tight ballgame.

From jdex post on the SUNYAC board minutes ago:

Yeah, Oneonta trailing 81-71 with 3:56 left!! Wins on T. Talbot hoop at 0:04. Talbot (18 pts), B. Beckford (22 pts), M. Grimes (16 pts) pace comeback. Talbot gives RDragons 83-82 edge at 0:29. IC's J. Marcus (20 pts) knots it on ft at 0:28. IC by 41-38 at half. Bombers C. Cruz-Rivas has 18 pts, three others with 10.

[sjfcards]

In other totally unrelated news, Ithaca has a new assistant on the bench as of last week when 2009 grad Peter Freidland joined the squad.  Peter brings a wealth of knowledge to the team including how to master old man post moves, how to become the d3 equivalent of Arvydas Sabonis, and mastering the art of chest shaving.

Look for the young Bomber freshman to take great strides in these areas in the future.

A post deserving of +k for an Arvydas Sabonis reference. Impressive.

Was anyone at the Fisher game that give a report of how it looked. Looks like Fisher pulled away in the 2nd half with some hot shooting and some defense (?). It is always a big win for Fisher when they can beat Brockport, so I am happy to see them at 2-0. I am really interested to see what they do against Hobart, since we have already seen what IC did to them.



For anyone who cares, I was at the Cuse game tonight against Cornell and Syracuse looks like a really good team. Solid guard play and Wes Johnson is a freak.

[bombersquadron]

Tough way for my Bombers to go into Thanksgiving losing in the last few seconds. Ithaca has always had a tough battle with Oneonta. Missed the game live but looking at the box score it seems pretty simple. They couldn't keep Beckford or the other Red Dragons off the glass, lost the rebound battle 41-28. I know Coach Mullins is not happy with that. Both teams shot free throws poorly but looking at the play by play (not sure if it is accurate yet) my Bombers went 2-7 down the stretch which is not acceptable. You would think I was back at the line with a FT percentage around 50 and missing them that late in a close game. Ithaca did shot the long ball well at 43.5% for the game but it wasn't enough to carry them for the full forty.

In other totally unrelated news, Ithaca has a new assistant on the bench as of last week when 2009 grad Peter Freidland joined the squad.  Peter brings a wealth of knowledge to the team including how to master old man post moves, how to become the d3 equivalent of Arvydas Sabonis, and mastering the art of chest shaving.

Look for the young Bomber freshman to take great strides in these areas in the future.

Bomber3 great post. Pete is a great guy and very knowledgeable. He was a tough guy to guard in the post being so crafty. He will also bring a lot to the team in practice working with the team. He may also teach the younger players to master the rubiks cube.

[bomber3]

Tough way for my Bombers to go into Thanksgiving losing in the last few seconds. Ithaca has always had a tough battle with Oneonta. Missed the game live but looking at the box score it seems pretty simple. They couldn't keep Beckford or the other Red Dragons off the glass, lost the rebound battle 41-28. I know Coach Mullins is not happy with that. Both teams shot free throws poorly but looking at the play by play (not sure if it is accurate yet) my Bombers went 2-7 down the stretch which is not acceptable. You would think I was back at the line with a FT percentage around 50 and missing them that late in a close game. Ithaca did shot the long ball well at 43.5% for the game but it wasn't enough to carry them for the full forty.

In other totally unrelated news, Ithaca has a new assistant on the bench as of last week when 2009 grad Peter Freidland joined the squad.  Peter brings a wealth of knowledge to the team including how to master old man post moves, how to become the d3 equivalent of Arvydas Sabonis, and mastering the art of chest shaving.

Look for the young Bomber freshman to take great strides in these areas in the future.

Bomber3 great post. Pete is a great guy and very knowledgeable. He was a tough guy to guard in the post being so crafty. He will also bring a lot to the team in practice working with the team. He may also teach the younger players to master the rubiks cube.

Yes, rebounds were the deciding factor.  Oneonta had more offensive rebounds (20) than Ithaca had defensively (19).  Also Oneonta had a staggering 32 second chance points if the box score is correct.  They have to tighten that up if they're going to be successful. 

Definitely a tough way to lose....especially up 10 with under four to play.  Unfortunately Oneonta got a little payback for Ithaca stealing one last year.  Beckford almost gave the Bombers a SECOND victory in two years by picking up a bonehead technical with under 30 seconds to play up one.  Last year he missed the go ahead free throw with under a second to win the game.  Hopefully the bombers bounce back against a tough Cortland squad that will pound the glass with Oliver and Miller (I believe those are the bigs names).

Bombsquad - major oversight on the rubik's cube...thanks for picking up the slack!

[buck1053]

Ohhh, I see what you did now.


Umm, when reading a box score, above Field Goal Attempts and Makes it says "Total".  So when doing averages, you don't add that column to the 3 point attempts and makes.  That is factored into the total.  Someone who is 3-10 from the field and 3-3 from 3 isn't 6-13 total.  He's just 0-7 from 2.

Wait.  Are you sure?

Yeah, he's right. I guess they want to make box scores more compact, but it seems like they should have stats for 2-pt FGs, 3-pt FGs and total FGs. It can be confusing.

[bomber3]

Also, who would have guessed this two weeks into the season:

Alfred, Utica, Stevens, and Hartwick (all picked in the bottom 5 of the league) a combined 12-4

Ithaca, RIT, and Naz (all picked in the top 4) a combined 4-6

I'm sure there are some cupcakes mixed in to prop up the first group but its worth noting.