Empire 8

[FROMAFAR]

Bomber I have a few different picks than you.... Basically the same, but you left out a couple of key players. You also included few that I cannot understand, BUT I won't speak to thios ebecause I don't want to heurt anyones feelings and who am I anyway.

COY hard to argue Korniker, but Hurley should be given some consideration. This team was supposed to be way down from a 13-13 team a year ago that was supposed to be much better. 17-7 (maybe 18-7) Tournament spot, only team to beat Fisher at Fisher... Consideration but Kornicker certainly did a great job. 15-1, no real standout players but good team concept..

POY no argument with Corey Mc Adam,. but shouldn't use his 4 year stats. Use this years which is what it is all about... They are good enough.

ROY I guess Rossi.. no one else out there.. If he learns how to shoot he could be a good player.

I am looking at the teams in the tourney and stats. Players who are in top ten overall stats, multiple categories as well as being important to their team making the tourney. I know there are good players on the other teams but sometimes stats get inflated because they may be the only one who shoots etc., and gets inflated minutes. Look at Fisher, they spread the minutes and that would certainly lower individual stats, but they certainly contribute to success.  I don't want any player to take offense because this is just my opinion, it means nothing....


First Team

G Corey McAdam      NAZ
G Chris Cruz             IC
F  Simon Smith         Stevens
F Michael Wopperer SJF
F Brendan Harder    RIT

Second Team

G Jordan Marcus      IC
G Matt Newman       SJF
G George Greco       Stevens
F  Jordan Koch         SJF
F  Phil Barera           RIT

Other possible's.... I think you have a few I can't see, BUT again, don't want to point out... that wouldn't be fair. 

I would add Corletta, from NAZ as well....

[FROMAFAR]

Sorry guys.......... I wish Barera was on RIT........ last post had him on Tigers... LOL........I told you what do I know

[bomber3]

Care to justify how you left Barera off first team?

4th in the league in scoring at 16.6ppg (150th in Nation)
Leading league in rebounding at 10.1 rpg (28th in Nation)
Broke single season E8 FG% record 66.3% (5th in Nation)
Averaged a double-double where he is playing the 5 where in reality he is more of a 4 (only 6'4"). 

I have no problem with the others but I can't see how he wouldn't be first team.  Other than McAdam I think he was the easiest pick.

[FROMAFAR]

Only justification was it was a home job by me.  :-[Harder probably should be on the second team... as a matter of fact, I had it that way originally, hence the RIT next to Barera, on first post...  Probably could interchange a few on my Team 1 and 2 BUT I do believe those 10 are truly the reason each of the top 5 teams (I included RIT of course) are where they are. They all have solid stats and without each and every one their team takes a big step back...

Good luck Bomber next week, don't sell NAZ short.... They are close to home and could surprise..... I am trying like heck to get to Stevens tonight, I'll touch base tomorrow one way or the other.

[bomber3]

Only justification was it was a home job by me.  :-[Harder probably should be on the second team... as a matter of fact, I had it that way originally, hence the RIT next to Barera, on first post...  Probably could interchange a few on my Team 1 and 2 BUT I do believe those 10 are truly the reason each of the top 5 teams (I included RIT of course) are where they are. They all have solid stats and without each and every one their team takes a big step back...

Good luck Bomber next week, don't sell NAZ short.... They are close to home and could surprise..... I am trying like heck to get to Stevens tonight, I'll touch base tomorrow one way or the other.

Gotcha -- thats understandable.  I think him and McAdam are locks and Wopperer is pretty close to it since Fisher was so dominant.  Not a fan of Blazek? He averaged 20+ and I know he took alot of shots but somone on Hartwick needed to shoot.  In retrospect Gooman shouldn't be on my list and Terry or Koch should replace him.  Utica was BAD (yet somehow beat IC) and a two win team won't get anyone on the all-conference team unless they're playing 5-on-3.

Not sure who I'm rooting for tonight @ Stevens.  RIT is on fire but Stevens was the only team to knock off Fisher.   I would probably say RIT is more likely to knock off Fisher since they're playing well right now and Stevens is in a funk. 

Official vegas line on tonight's game is Elmira +1500 to win and +17 for the spread.  Any takers?

[buck1053]

As for All league predictions, Anthony Terry(RIT) should definitely be on the squad. Probably the most explosive guard in the league

Don't know whether he's most explosive guard or not, but his name should probably be in the mix: 16.9 ppg in league play, 2.8 apg, 2.0 rpg, 1.75 spg, 49.8 FG%, 44.0 3FG% and 71.7 FT%.

[FROMAFAR]

Oh Terry's good and should be in the mix, but I would say third team.

Bomber -love the spread tonight......... E-8 will be exciting I look for a surprise or two, just don't know what the surprise will be. Naz and Stevens are dangerous, Fischer is consistant and IC has talent........RIT hot, but have to get in

[FROMAFAR]

I never responded about Blazek..... Look at the top teams.... Fisher, Stevens, IC.... real team concept, not just one option..... Naz has mcAdamas, BUT he makes the others good, and coaches on the court... like Greco at Stevens. Blazek is talented, don't get me wrong and would probably be a third teamer, but he doesn't make the others better..No knock, that's not his job. His job is to score, and he does.   

[bomber3]

Well the tourney is set...

Friday
6pm - No. 4 Stevens @ No. 1 Fisher
8pm - No. 3 Nazareth vs. No. 2 Ithaca

Winners play Saturday @ 5

[FROMAFAR]

Well, no surprise. The Ducks took care of business.. Hey congrats to Stevens they did what they had to. They went 6-2 on the road, and big wins at Fisher and Naz on successive days, as well as spanking us in our house. They deserve a shot at the Championship. We came together a little late, and just missed...... no sour grapes, no what if's....  Any predictions on the Tourney..  I think it will be interesting.

Wait 'till next year.........

[bomber3]

I decided to compare the coaches preseason picks versus whoever posted regular seaon predictions on the boards (Fromafar and I).  For each place you were off for each team you got a point (which is bad).  So the winner is FROMAFAR with only 10...Second is Bomber3....last but not least the coaches...

Actual
1 - Fisher
2 - IC
3 - Naz
4 - Stevens
5 - RIT
6 - Harwtick
7 - Alfred
8 - Utica
9 - Elmira

FROMAFAR   
Fisher - 0
RIT - 3
Stevens - 1
IC - 2
Naz - 2
Alfred - 1
Hartwick - 1
Utica - 0
Elmira - 0
10 total points

Bomber3   
Fisher   0
Ithaca   0
RIT   2
Nazareth   1
Utica    3
Alfred   1
Hartwick   1
Stevens   4
Elmira    0
12 total points

COACHES   
Fisher    0
RIT    3
IC    1
Naz    1
Alfred      2
Stevens   2
UC   1
Elmira   1
Hartwick   3
14 total points

[FROMAFAR]

What do I know

[bomber3]

What do I know

I would +k you but I don't think I have that power yet...

[FROMAFAR]

That's ok that makes up for all -k I should have gotten. I am interested to see the regional rankings..... I really think the E-8 has 4 very good teams... I won't include RIT.......... Any one could do well in NCAA.... By that I mean not one and out... Naz Stevens and IC beat up on one another, and Fischer beat them all ( except on Stevens game), but competitive games for the most part. I would love to see two get bids..... Fisher and one of the others. 

[magicman]

What do I know

I would +k you but I don't think I have that power yet...

81 more posts will give you that power.