Empire 8

[FROMAFAR]

That's exactly right, that's why I believe this team will not lose an e-8 game and I said they are deep. If all the shooters are off.... highly unlikely, then they have other options...... You have to know from my posts I prefer a pass first Point Guard.....opens everything up. Very difficuly for defense to double team.  While I have made it known the assist on a basic 3 is too subjective, for this team Rossi has so many options inside and out, how could he not have 10 assists per game. The only thing that could make this team better is touger Defense. Someone on Fisher , I think Gettings, had 30+ points. Who was guarding him..... If it was Rossi, I can understand in that he plays 40 minutes, so they will give up those points since they don't seem to have a back up, Burt how would I know since no one replaces him.....Gettings should never score 30 points.....Not a consistant shooter, and a little slow.... here's where the Fisher fans take offense.... Just my feelings. BUT  

[magicman]

Ithaca cracks the D3hoops Top 25 Poll as the Bombers, who haven't received a single point all year, get 76 points this week and are ranked #20. New York University also gets ranked as they check in at the #25 spot with 69 points. Only 7 points separate the bottom 6 places. Plattsburgh State, as expected, with 3 losses last week in 4 games, falls out  of the Top 25 and receives 16 points which would put them in 31st place. These are the only East region teams that are getting points.

Here's the link to the complete poll:

http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2010-11/week6

[magicman]

Shades of Pistol Pete, check out this 12 year old kid from the state of Washington.

http://www.komonews.com/sports/heroes/111892554.html

[Bombers798891]

Shades of Pistol Pete, check out this 12 year old kid from the state of Washington.

http://www.komonews.com/sports/heroes/111892554.html

I must be way too cynical a person, because I'm not impressed. Well, I mean, the dribbling looks cool, and he can fire off some fancy passes, but meh. Can the kid play basketball? I mean, do his skills translate to the court and an actual game or is he just into the flash and sizzle? I mean, ok, those skills would be great for the Globetrotters or the And1 tours, but I'm more impressed with guys who can actually play on the college/pro level (Yes, I'm aware Maravich did)

I'm sure FROMAFAR is salivating because these no-look, thread the needle passes count as "super awesome, doubly-special assists." I just wonder how many times he sent passes out of bounds or off unsuspecting players hands before they got the two/three they needed? 

[AUPepBand]

Saxons roll to 44-25 halftime lead and hold on for an 81-72 win over Elmira at McLane Center to improve to 2-2 in the E8.

[AUPepBand]

Okay, is this for real?

Ithaca 104, Alfred 51
Alfred 65, Utica 60
Utica 85, Ithaca 81

What's wrong with this picture?

[AUPepBand]

That's exactly right, that's why I believe this team will not lose an e-8 game and I said they are deep. If all the shooters are off.... highly unlikely, then they have other options...... You have to know from my posts I prefer a pass first Point Guard.....opens everything up. Very difficuly for defense to double team.  While I have made it known the assist on a basic 3 is too subjective, for this team Rossi has so many options inside and out, how could he not have 10 assists per game. The only thing that could make this team better is touger Defense. Someone on Fisher , I think Gettings, had 30+ points. Who was guarding him..... If it was Rossi, I can understand in that he plays 40 minutes, so they will give up those points since they don't seem to have a back up, Burt how would I know since no one replaces him.....Gettings should never score 30 points.....Not a consistant shooter, and a little slow.... here's where the Fisher fans take offense.... Just my feelings. BUT  

Oops....Bombers' 9-game flight ends with a crash landing in an 85-81 loss to Utica at Clark Athletic Center.

[FROMAFAR]

First of all, yea you are too cynical Bomber #%*&..... This kid is 12....I coach kids at that age level, and I haven't seen too many with those skills at that age, although I have seen a few 12 year olds, who have a real grasp of the game, AND some great skills. This kid ( although I just saw the video which gives you an idea..) but I would say he is certainly on his was.  As a matter of fact I wouldn't mind him on RIT........Yes I love those passes, and while yes probably threw a few away... if he can do this at 12.........I want to remember his........

Hey PEP.... Like I always say WHAT DO I KNOW..... I really put the kiss on IC... SO Bomber be careful, I just may continue to sing their praises.   MAYBE getting into top 25 hurt them, in a way....Too complacent.. I don't know... what happened, cold from 3 land, turnovers, sleep walking  someone give me an idea.

CYCLONE what happened to the Ducks... 19 pts in the first half?  I understand, many turn overs...20  wow.......  They better hold home court this wekend.  PEP here's your boys chance to get into themix a bit...Fisher could establish themselves with a road win here.  BUT what do I know.  

[Bombers798891]

First of all, yea you are too cynical Bomber #%*&..... This kid is 12....I coach kids at that age level, and I haven't seen too many with those skills at that age, although I have seen a few 12 year olds, who have a real grasp of the game, AND some great skills. This kid ( although I just saw the video which gives you an idea..) but I would say he is certainly on his was.  As a matter of fact I wouldn't mind him on RIT........Yes I love those passes, and while yes probably threw a few away... if he can do this at 12.........I want to remember his........

Hey PEP.... Like I always say WHAT DO I KNOW..... I really put the kiss on IC... SO Bomber be careful, I just may continue to sing their praises.   MAYBE getting into top 25 hurt them, in a way....Too complacent.. I don't know... what happened, cold from 3 land, turnovers, sleep walking  someone give me an idea.

Shooting was fine, although they went 4-9 from the line. Oztemel, who is shooting about 90% from the stripe, missed one with the Bombers down 82-81. 15 turnovers were pretty bad as well. But Utica's not going to hit 7-10 from three every night.

This is the kind of game however, that frustrates me to no end about this recent "era" of Bomber play. This is a Utica team that lost to Alfred, which couldn't even stay in the gym against Ithaca (granted, in that game, Utica shot 2-of-15 from three.)

I know Bomber3 always hates it when I rip on the team, but this is the kind of loss that makes it incredibly frustrating to follow them. The Pioneers, for all intents and purposes, look slightly better than average, and if you're a Top 25 school, you shouldn't lose these games.

[sjfcards]

I agree with you. Ithaca's style is all about flow. If they get teams to play there game they are really tough to beat. If not, teams like Utica can beat them. They will win the league this year but I think they will do it with a couple losses.

[magicman]

Interesting, Rossi had 13 assists in the Utica game. One was on a layup by Barera the other 12 were on 3 point baskets. 

[FROMAFAR]

Magicman-- did you say interesting? How many 3's did IC take 30+... I really don't know? I think cyclone mentioned UC didn't look great against Stevens and either did Stevens... As a matter of fact who is looking good other than IC... except last night. Hey it may may work for IC   maybe a wake up....They have to play some D.... who was UC high scorer, again I don't know.... was it Patterson... not a tough guess... who was guarding him. 

[Bombers798891]

Interesting, Rossi had 13 assists in the Utica game. One was on a layup by Barera the other 12 were on 3 point baskets. 

I'm curious, did anyone actually watch the game last night?

For the record, why are assists on three pointers somehow lame? It's not like Rossi just stands beyond the arc and hands it off to a guy three feet from him. Although in fairness, his 13 tonight were nothing special, that's the exception.

There is such a thing as driving and kicking, and in a lot of ways, that can be challenging. You've got to draw the defender in in a way to get your guy open, and know when to make the pass so that the guy isn't covered. You've got to put in in place where he can shoot quickly.

FROMAFAR, no it wasn't Patterson. I'd say I'm surprised you got it wrong, but in truth, I'm not. Just another IC game you didn't actually watch. But in case you actually do make it to Ithaca for a game, be warned: Rossi doesn't tend to guard 6-5, 215-pound and 6-7 240-pound forwards.

The Bombers actually fell to Utica on the road last season before obliterating them in Ithaca, so perhaps i am overreacting to the los

[FROMAFAR]

Bomber@#$%  there you go again over-reacting, very defensive, maybe you should coach IC on defense your good at it....No I didn't see the game and knew nothing about it... that's why I asked for help....I mentioned Patterson only because lately he seems to be one of their high scorer's....As far as the assis on the 3 Pters, I didn't bring it up but you have to admit, Magic madea valid poit and that was the number of assists on 3's.....calm down...... Rossi is the man when it comes to assists, he doesn't need anyone to defend him, ( that's not an  a double meaning either)...... You really are a conspiracy theory guy.  I believe it was Abrams a  6"5 forward....but again I am not sure and someone who follows the league gave me that info a short while ago.  and maybe Rossi should guard 6'5 players... maybe they won't give up 80+ a game.....hey I didn't think anyone in the league would beat your boy's this year, I was wrong again, and I'll bet you before long I will be wrong more than once......Bomber remember we are just a bunch of guy's shooting our opinions out.... Of course mistakes will be made... even by you...but trust me I won't be the one to point it out............enjoy the season and the banter, don't get too "fired up"....

[reelentless]

Although the rebounds were fairly even, last night Utica was able to score in the paint against Ithaca, having a 28-12 advantage in that Stat.  Will Abrams was on fire, shooting 14 for 17 overall, 4 for 6 on 3s (31 pts) but a lot of Wills points were in the paint which clearly helped his shooting %.  Bobby Whyte had 18 down low off the bench.