Empire 8

gobombers15 · February 04, 2006, 07:10:29 PM

Quote from: woot on February 04, 2006, 06:52:24 PM
i think hamilton would beat fisher

Probably not if the game is at Fisher.

notjoshreed · February 04, 2006, 07:20:17 PM

Did I say Fisher by 13, sorry it was only 12, and that does not tell the story or the game. Fisher did dominate, Biegel in foul trouble but breakout game for Smalt with 14. O'brien had good game with 20. Bennet solid deffensive game but a couple of cheap fouls from the short ref who tried to change the character of the game early in Utica's favor. Guy was whistle happy.

Also a screwy call during the second half. Ref under the basket called a blocking foul on Utica, ref on the perimiter started to react after the other ref blue his whistle startting to indicate a charge. The Utica coach toook charge of the officiating and took 5 minutes to make a decision. Not sure what they ended up calling but Fisher got the ball out of bounds

Prediction # 2 Pittsburg over the Hawks

naz hoops69 · February 04, 2006, 10:27:34 PM

Big weekend for Naz highlighted by strong performances by Ryan Mcadam and Matt Groot. Since he started getting the playing time he deserves, Groot has really stepped up. Mcadam is continuing to show how he can easily be one of the frontrunners for E8 player of the year over the next two years. After losing to basically a high school team in Hartwick last weekend, Nazareth turned around this weekend with some strong performances team wide. Tuesday will end up being a big game after all after seeing RIT's big choke-job at home today blowing a 15 point second half lead.

I see Utica and Fisher as being locks for the tournament at this point, however I am not sold on Ithaca or RIT at all. Having seen RIT play a few times, I am not at all impressed with their lack of athleticism and size. Strong perimiter shooting has carried them through some impressive wins thus far but eventually the off balance 25 footers will start rimming out. Prediction for the last 5 games of the season..... Naz will win out and host the E8 tournament after Fisher loses tight ones to Elmira and Alfred.

notjoshreed · February 04, 2006, 10:51:27 PM

Prediction for the last 5 games of the season..... Naz will win out and host the E8 tournament after Fisher loses tight ones to Elmira and Alfred.

What are you smoking son? No way Naz is hosting E8. You still have to get by Hartwick again as well as a couple of teams called Utica and St John Fisher

gobombers15 · February 05, 2006, 01:07:04 AM

Hey Naz Hoops, not sold on Ithaca? Which one of the 10 Ithaca victories in the last 13 games against Naz didn't make you a believer? Your team is on the outside looking in and the Flyers are screwed on the tiebreakers thanks to the loss at home against Hartwick. Enjoy also-ran status this year.

dewcrew88 · February 05, 2006, 08:14:22 AM

Quote from: gobombers15 on February 04, 2006, 05:59:51 PM
Fisher coasts to a very easy win over Utica, 82-70.

The game wasn't even that close. The Cardinals dominated this game throughout, leading by as many 21 in the 2nd half and not allowing Utica within 12 in the 2nd half until the last two minutes during garbage time. Nick Bennett shuts down Ray Bryant, who had right around 13 points, 6 of which came in the aforementioned last two minutes of the game with Bennett not on the floor. I don't have the numbers yet, but Bryant must have shot something like 4-15. Seems Bennett has his number.

I distinctly remember a certain Utica fan saying a) Nick Bennett is the most overrated player in the league, and b) Ray Bryant is the best player in the league. Care to reconsider those comments?

I hope this ends all that pathetic "Utica is the best team in the conference" talk, after Fisher took them behind the woodshed this afternoon. Hey Pioneers, go get your shinebox.

I said from Day 1 when I posted on this board -- to be the man, you have to beat the man. Since Fisher was the E8 champs last year, there's the man, and we lost both games this year, so we're playing for second place. Hopefully at tournament time, we can figure out how to get it done at Fisher.

clearconceit · February 05, 2006, 08:31:37 AM

I couldn't have said it any better! If the players believed in themselves as much as I do, I think we could beat Fisher. But they absolutely left no doubt as to who is the best team in the league. People here crack me up about making references to me, such as "oh I can't wait ti hear from clear about this game" hey I say it like I see it. And there is no question that Fisher deserved to win the game. And I agree with you above too that hopefully we get it figured out by the tournament time.

I had a great weekend - as I ended up visiting some friends in Rochester and actually saw 2 Fisher games. Yes I scouted Fisher for myself on Friday. Hartwick's gameplan atleast defensively was much better than ours was. They mixed up defenses - sometimes in the same possession and despite being down like 16-0 at one point (I think it took them like 6 minutes to score) they actually battled back and actuallky cut the lead to 9 in the 2nd half (although early in the half).

Anyway a couple of interesting things. Bennet did a great job on Cocozziello, but right now he is a one man team. They are missing some important players to that team. Well - supposedly the word I got from a couple of Hartwick people who were brave enough to go to the game (could it be MadHawk?) their starting PT guard (Simoneschi) and Center (Brown) and top sub (Dills) are gone from the program. ANd I know the board will love this one, Cocozziello is also leaving after the season for an athletic scholarship. Now I have a hard time believing that because I have seen him play enough to say he isn't good enough for a scholarship - so interesting stuff.
MadHawk - I will say that if this is true buddy you are in for many more years of losing. As disappointed as I am with my Pioneers, I know we will make the E-8 tournament and have good core of returning players to make a splash for years to come. You on the other hand are in trouble. While I give you credit form being better this year, it is quite possible that you will be battling for your life to stay out of the cellar.

By the way any truth to these rumors above? I assume the first are true since I notice Brown hasn't played in 2 weeks and Simoneschi in a month.

As for the Rochester scene... ouch Thirsty Turtle, a little too much to drink.

gobombers15 · February 05, 2006, 10:59:19 AM

Big win for the Bombers. Of course, it was in typical Ithaca "Jeckyl and Hyde" fashion, as they played a bad first half and a nice second half. Balanced scoring carried the day for Ithaca. Coming into this weekend, Ithaca needed at least a split and they got it. At 6 conference wins right now, they probably need only two more to clinch an E8 berth and they should get those wins at home against Hartwick and Elmira.

Superbowl Prediction: Pittsburgh 27 Seattle 20

I haven't been a believer in Seattle since the Giants should have beaten them three different times in one game. Freakin Jay Feely.

fisheralum91 · February 05, 2006, 01:47:28 PM

Great article in the Utica O-D.
Makes an old Fisheralum proud!!!

http://www.uticaod.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060205/SPORTS/602050330/1030/SPORTS01

the bird man · February 05, 2006, 02:23:10 PM

After this weekend the rest of the season should be very interesting. Fisher confirmed what we all expected by basically wrapping up the #1 seed, but the race for second is as good as it gets.

All three teams in the mix for second could easily finish as the #2, #3, or #4 seed. I have my money on ithaca as the 2 seed, with a big win against Utica in Ithaca. After that I think Utica will be the 3 and RIT as the 4. However, the prospects of Fisher playing Naz in the first round of the E8 tourny, should they sneak in, kind of scares me. It is such a big rivalry game that anything can happen...

should be exciting.

notjoshreed · February 05, 2006, 10:06:35 PM

Quote from: notjoshreed on February 04, 2006, 01:41:23 PM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on February 04, 2006, 11:30:56 AM
Ilikr SJF's chances tonight.
Playing in that gym has been horrible for UC.

Come on Fisher Alum, put it in the book, two biggest games left this weekend Fisher by 13 over Utica with even scoring between O'Brien, Biegel, McGgee and Gillette off the bench with 8 pts and 5 rebounds

Pittsburgh over Seahawks (at least there is one Hawk in contention for something) by 13 as well with Bettis going out big in Detroit, saddle up and enjoy the next 30 hours of pure fun

Fisher by 12, Pittsburgh by 11 close enough for me How bout you Hawk?

gobombers15 · February 06, 2006, 02:55:35 AM

NJR, pretty predictable weekend, I suppose. I had Fisher by 10, they won by 12. I had Pitt by 10, they won by 11. We were both off by a total of three points. And, yes, this was a petty post.

superman57 · February 06, 2006, 10:39:19 AM

And I'm proud to bring you the MVP of the super bowl- THE ZEBRAS. Wow doesn't that sound like a lot of games in rochester this year. I'm a Cowboys fan so I was not cheering for either team but the refs obviously had an alterior motive in that game and even steelers fans have to say there were two calls that should have been no-calls.

bamm · February 06, 2006, 10:53:23 AM

Superman -- it's games and calls like what I saw last night that makes me wonder if Vegas had more involvement than they should... though you would suspect the referees would be making calls for the Seahawks in that case (since most of the money was on the Steelers).

Bottom line, the Hawks got boned on at least 3 huge calls:

Their first non-TD to Jackson.
The phantom holding call that would have put them on the 1 yard line with a chance to go ahead.
The reeeeediculous defensive chop block call on Hasselbeck when he made the tackle on the INT return.

Those three calls all looked wrong and cost the Seahawks points.

Taking into account the Indy/Pittsburgh game, the Broncos/Pats game, and the Super Bowl -- the 2006 playoffs should be remembered for the referees.

col · February 06, 2006, 12:33:17 PM

I will argue that these playoffs should definitely be remembered for The Snake's ridiculous beard and mustache.