Empire 8

GPT · January 03, 2010, 01:29:02 PM

From what I heard it's a combination of missed class's and low GPA

sjfcards · January 03, 2010, 03:50:28 PM

That is too bad about Franklin, but you have to go to class and make sure you keep your grades up. I don't know him obviously but he seemed like a smart enough kid whenever I heard him speak. I wonder if this has been a recurring problem?

On the floor Fisher jumped out to another double digit lead at halftime (16), and holds on down the stretch to beat a game Hartwick team. HC never quit and had the game down to a 5 differential with about 3 minutes left. Fisher hit some big free throws down the stretch and won by 9.

Defense is going to be key for Fisher in the conference this year. So far they have held all three conference teams they have played to under 20 points at halftime, and held on down the stretch.

FROMAFAR · January 03, 2010, 10:02:32 PM

Hey gang. been busy through the Holidays..... I caught the Stevens NAZ GAME TONIGHT.... STEVENS CLEARLY THE BETTER TEAM... sorry for the caps, slipped finger.. Stevens with the ball last possession tie game.... the write up states a QUESTIONABLE BACK COURT VIOLATION... no question at all..
Freshman Russ Thompson had the ball, while passing the ball, a defender on Naz got a hand on it and knocked it off a Stevens players leg into the back court, right in front of the ref, Greco hustles and gets the ball with 5.5 left and the ref calls back court.....amazing....... Naz did not impress me... Mc Adams usual self leaning on defenders getting calls, and taking 4 steps everytime he penetrates... hey, he's been doing it 4 years and is certainly smart enough to get away with it, give him credit........... I can't make up my mind if this win for NAZ helps my Tigers or not.....I'm getting itchy to get them back on the court......I think Naz will win their share but can be had by the Alfreds, and Utica's as well as my guys.... before this is all over.... They are not deep, however Mc Adams can control a game........But what do I know

sjfcards · January 04, 2010, 09:55:31 AM

I watched the Stevens Naz game online and Stevens looked like the better team to me. I think Naz can be a very dangerous team to the top of the league this year tho.

sjfcards · January 04, 2010, 10:18:41 PM

Big day in the Empire 8 tomorrow with a lot of conference games on the schedule. I will take:

Ithaca over Elmira by 108. (something more like 25 in reality)
Fisher over Alfred by 15
Stevens over Utica by 7-10
RIT vs Naz could be a real interesting game, but I will take RIT by 3.

I get the feeling that some teams will treat these games like a must win. Stevens had a great start but stumbled last weekend to a 2-2 conference record. They will not want to lose 3 straight conference games, and lose a potential tiebreaker down the road with Utica.

RIT is the big one. They are 0-2 in the league already, and playing a good team in Naz. I think if any team playing tomorrow needs a win it is them. The games between Rochester area teams are usually tough, hard fought games, but the tigers may have more of a chip on their shoulders than usual. Naz was fortunate to win against Stevens, so they are sort of playing with house money.

FROMAFAR · January 05, 2010, 09:04:13 AM

SJFCARDS, RIT better have a chip on their shoulders tonight.... I truly believe the Tigers are deeper and have more talent... but you know my theory, you need a true point guard and we have been lacking there. Korinichak is not the answer.... Naz has Mc Adams, and they are home... tough to overcome at their place, however nothing like playing at Fisher...Your right NAZ got a gift at Stevens, but I think they play better loose...I dunno know.... I think Naz wins by 5.......I look for Alfred to make it a little closer, I think they lose, but under 10. Ithaca can name the score. Stevens needs to put the ball in Greco's hands on offense... I couldn't believe the other night they had a freshman handling the ball on last possession, with Greco on weak side... GG should have had the ball in his hands.... he has shown he can create and usually clutch..... also shooting almost 90% from free throw line so puts pressure on defense ( do you let him go or play tough with chance you foul??? Stevens should handle this bunch as long as they control the boards. I look for low scoring affair, maybe 63-56 Stevens.......BUT what do I know

Bombers798891 · January 05, 2010, 05:13:51 PM

This has probably already been posted, and some of you may know about it, but you can watch a lot of games live online at www.pennatlantic.com.

I think it's only conference games, but it's pretty sweet considering it's free...

Bombers should cruise tonight and improve to 9-2...maybe Marcus quits jerking us around with these 44-point games and goes off for 50+...

Bombers798891 · January 05, 2010, 08:20:27 PM

23-8 Bombers early...no audio, but it looks like Phil Barera is going to have another big night...

Bombers798891 · January 05, 2010, 08:36:58 PM

46-30 IC at the break...Barera with 16 and 7...Rossi with 7 assists.

One note: No Chris Cruz-Rivas tonight. Anyone have word?

Bombers798891 · January 05, 2010, 09:31:38 PM

Quote from: Bombers798891 on January 05, 2010, 08:36:58 PM
46-30 IC at the break...Barera with 16 and 7...Rossi with 7 assists.

One note: No Chris Cruz-Rivas tonight. Anyone have word?

Elmira hangs tough as Bombers go cold to start the 2nd half. IC eventually pulls away, 84-71. Not a great performance by IC, but, missing Rivas and putting up 84 is still a good sign

sjfcards · January 05, 2010, 10:00:04 PM

Fisher plays, in my oppinion, their best game of the year, and rolls up AU by 33. Fisher was sharp on offense, and held another team to under 20 in the first half (16). The start followed a familiar pattern, Fisher jumping out early on a 9-0 run, but this game did not have the scoreless stretch in the second half which has let other conference teams get back in the game. They looked good.

Tough to see that RIT took a thumping against Naz. Ouch.

FROMAFAR · January 06, 2010, 09:32:52 AM

Ouch is right....... This team (RIT) just doesn't seem to play together. Too many individuals... again need that floor general, alla McAdams, and Greco.
I will never give up this early BUT not looking good. We need to beat a Fisher or Ithaca to get some confidence. Maybe a change of leagues is what we need... I hate leaving this league though..... Anyone see the Stevens game... they seemed to handle Utica easily, and who shut down Patterson?

Bombers798891 · January 06, 2010, 10:47:34 AM

Maybe it's just because it's early, but I get the feeling the conference tournament is practically set. Four winless teams, three unbeaten teams, and one with their only win over a winless team (Wick over Elmira).

As Nazareth showed last year, things can turn around, but right now, I'd have a hard time picking anyone from the lower ranks to catch SJF and Naz, and IC and Stevens look like they'll be in as well.

Maybe that 4th spot could get dodgy, but I just have a feeling the standings in May may look similar to what they do now

Go Naz · January 06, 2010, 11:32:34 AM

In regards to the Stevens-Naz game, I find it hard to believe that Stevens is CLEARLY THE BETTER TEAM. It is tough to back up that argument. If they were CLEARLY BETTER, they would have taken care of business on their home court. You can take about questionable calls all you want, but a superior team doesn't let officiating decide a game, especially not a game at home. I love how little respect Naz gets on these boards. After thumping RIT last night, I have to say that they are playing as well as anyone in the Empire 8 right now, but no one seems to mention them when talking about elite teams in the league. Broderick has made them a very good defensive team, and they have the best player in the league running the show for them. They play a small athletic lineup and create big time match up problems for other teams. Right now they have as good a chance to win the league as anyone else if not a better one. Meanwhile...Naz will just keep basking in the hate down here on East Ave.

FROMAFAR · January 06, 2010, 01:59:43 PM

Go NAZ relax, no hate here for any of these teams..... If you watched the game Stevens was Clearly the better team. Every now and then the game is not decided by the players, and that was one... I wish I could say the same for the beating RIT took from your guys last night...but I can't. I give Mc Adams all the credit in the world, he has a great feel for waht the refs will allow and he adjusts appropriately. I wish RIT had someone like that. I want to see NAZ beat Fischer and Ithaca, then they will be Elite. Right now I don't consider any of these Teams to be Elite. The one, if any that sweeps the Top 3 I will then consider Elite.... But what do I know