Empire 8

buck1053 · January 22, 2010, 03:59:56 PM

Quote from: Bombers798891 on January 22, 2010, 12:45:53 PM

Regarding the rebounding, one of the things IC does, especially when down, is race down the court and fire up a quick 3. The problem is, they really don't have anyone down low to get a rebound, so if they miss, there's no hope.

Yeah, the difference is they don't have a Bostic to clean up the messes (or the boards) from the 3-point jacks like they have had in the past couple seasons.

sjfcards · January 22, 2010, 10:48:18 PM

A good win for Fisher tonight. Ithaca played much better today than they did two weeks ago, and they shot the ball a lot better as well. Fisher jumped out early, held off an Ithaca run that saw IC take the lead at one point in the first half. Fisher took a 9 point lead at half time, and started the second half on a bit of a run to get the lead up to 17 at one point. Fisher basically held on from there.

They went on a long stretch in the 2nd half without scoring, and Ithaca hit a 3 to cut the lead down to 8 I think, but Fisher hit their free throws down the stretch to win by 10.

Ithaca shot the ball well today, but still had trouble with some rebounding. Fisher was also able get good shots in the paint to control the game. Ithaca really chucks up some threes. Sometimes it seems way to quick and looks a little unsettled. They can hit a lot of jumpers, but in the second half when Fisher went through the long stretch without scoring, IC was also cold, and it felt like the lead was at 12 for about an hour.

A win is a win if you are Fisher, and at winning at IC is always nice.

the golden flyer · January 22, 2010, 10:58:19 PM

Naz defeats a pesky Elmira team 77-67. Elmira hung with Naz pretty much the whole game. The difference was McAdam who went for 39 in a game which he got to the basket at will it seemed. Elmira took the air out of the ball and was able to stay within striking distance for most of the game. A win is a win at this time of the year and this was a potential "trap game" before the Battle of the Beaks coming up on Tuesday...Naz has their work cut out for them at Fisher but should be a good one!

sjfcards · January 23, 2010, 12:10:12 AM

Speaking of Trap games, Fisher really needs to watch out for Hartwick tomorrow. A decent sub 500 team, wedged in between Ithaca (on the road), and Naz on Tuesday.

At least it is at Fisher.

Go Naz · January 23, 2010, 12:48:20 AM

Really impressive outing for Corey tonight. Elmira could not find any way to keep him out of the paint. It will be interesting to see how Fisher tries to guard him Tuesday night. With the exception of the recent egg layed by Nazareth at Ithaca, McAdam has a pretty solid record of showing up in big games. Fisher has a lot of different guys they can throw at him over the course of the game however. Naz could get in trouble if Fisher wears Corey out. Corletta or Stephens will have to step up Tuesday night and take some of the offensive load off Corey's shoulders. Gotta love a good Naz-Fisher battle.

buck1053 · January 23, 2010, 09:36:09 AM

Think this is the weekend either of the winless teams gets one?

Alfred has a shot against Utica, and RIT plays Elmira, so we might see them pick up their first league wins. It would make their contest next week more interesting if they both lost their second game this weekend, but I think they both have a chance to pull one out.

Pep, what's happening with the Saxons? They had a decent non-league record and you said Wellman's recruiting was solid. Did they lose some guys at break?

bomber3 · January 23, 2010, 12:34:28 PM

Quote from: sjfcards on January 22, 2010, 12:22:04 PM
Should be a lot of fun on south hill tonight. Again, I don't think Fisher will run away in this at all. The exact opposite. I expect a tight game decided by 5 or less. My 9 point spread is just where I would set the line on past performances this year. Anybody going to the game tonight?

I guess your line was better. Props for that. You said IC shot better than last game though, which isn't necessarily true. They were 7-30 (23%) and 36% overall yesterday and 7-28 (25%) and 33% overall. So by the stats they were equally bad in both games. I didn't see this game but it looks like they hung around this time because they closed the rebounding gap and Fisher shot poorly from the line (55%). Anyone see the game?

Also Fisher's bench outscored IC's 29-6. Newman doesn't start or was this a one time only deal? IC needs to get more from their bench to be successful, especially against the elite teams.

FROMAFAR · January 23, 2010, 02:38:27 PM

I didn't see the Fisher game, but the running stats, I THINK, show Newman scoring first basket, YET Bomber is co ;)rrect, the lineup shows him Not starting??? Am I missing something.?

sjfcards · January 23, 2010, 05:50:51 PM

I was at the Fisher/IC game last night and Newman did start (and score the first basket). I probably should have looked at the stats before I said IC shot the ball better. That was just my impression. I was at both Fisher IC games, and last nights game was much more competitive and tight as the score would indicate. The issue was in doubt until the final few moments.

Good win for Fisher today over Hartwick. Fisher was able to avoid the trap game and needs to get ready for a huge game against Naz on Tuesday. That should be a great one.

Any other scores from the E8 gone final yet?

AUSaxons33344 · January 24, 2010, 02:38:28 PM

Saxons up 37-30 at half v Utica. Distributing the ball and looking good defensively as well. Patt is 3-4 behind the arc and the rest of the team is shooting well. Let's see if it can continue and they can close this one out!! Go SAXONS!!!

AUSaxons33344 · January 24, 2010, 03:36:32 PM

The Saxons hang on for a 61-60 victory. A lot of missed opportunities for Utica at the end. Abrams missed a wide open lay-up on an inbounds play with 12 seconds to go. A lot of missed free throws by the Saxons also that Utica could not capitalize on. Hard fought game with Goodman leading the way for Utica 29 pts and 8 boards.

LETS GO SAXONS!!!!

sjfcards · January 24, 2010, 04:58:33 PM

Congrats to the Saxons on getting their first league win. That program has brighter days ahead of them.

What has happened to Utica? I thought they would be a much more competitive team than they are this year. They were such a quality team just a few years ago, and now it seems they have really dropped off the table. What gives?

bomber3 · January 25, 2010, 09:23:27 AM

Quote from: sjfcards on January 24, 2010, 04:58:33 PM
Congrats to the Saxons on getting their first league win. That program has brighter days ahead of them.

What has happened to Utica? I thought they would be a much more competitive team than they are this year. They were such a quality team just a few years ago, and now it seems they have really dropped off the table. What gives?

Goodemote was an excellent coach and they had a ton of talent lost over the past 3-4 years (Ray Bryant, Cichon, Herring). Goodemote brought those players in and they haven't found replacements yet, which is not an easy accomplishment. Pat Goodman is solid and so is Patterson but they don't have any All-American caliber players. Don't forget the team that went deep into the NCAAs had an All-American in Bryant, all-east region in Cichon, and E8 rookie of the year in Doug Herring. Those teams were stacked and they haven't been able to reload since. Also, there has been some griping about the new coach on these boards as well but I don't know him.

Does anyone know what Goodemote is up to? I know he left coaching to start a family but wasn't sure if he ever got back into baskeball.

FROMAFAR · January 25, 2010, 01:39:04 PM

Hey PEP where are you? Hope your OK.... I think Alfred will win 4-5 games before its over.. If Stoppera stops trying to be McAdams and flopping everytime he drives and lets the younger guys take some shots they can be dangerous.... Look at Stevens game, he was 3-18 from the field, somebody shut him down cold....But I believe if he tones it down, they can beat Elmira, Hartwick, RIT

, and maybe even NAZ.......what do think PEP, what do you know

sjfcards · January 25, 2010, 09:25:34 PM

Huge game tomorrow with Fisher and Naz meeting for the first time this year. With a win, Fisher can really put themselves into a good position for regular season title. They will have a 2 game lead on every team in the league if they can win tomorrow. It is never easy playing Naz, but I will take Fisher by 10.