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FisherDynasty · January 25, 2010, 11:43:17 PM

utica lost goodemount as the coach right? thats it right there

bomber3 · January 26, 2010, 12:09:58 PM

Quote from: sjfcards on January 25, 2010, 09:25:34 PM
Huge game tomorrow with Fisher and Naz meeting for the first time this year. With a win, Fisher can really put themselves into a good position for regular season title. They will have a 2 game lead on every team in the league if they can win tomorrow. It is never easy playing Naz, but I will take Fisher by 10.

Fisher can definitely distance itself from the pack today. A win today and they can pretty much wrap up the regular season title. They would have a 2 game lead and only have 2 games left against the top 4 in the league (home vs Stevens and @ Naz). They swept Ithaca and swept Hartwick. All the other games they play are against teams with one win in the conference and are pretty much out of the playoff race.

What are Fisher's chances of a pool C bid if they don't win the E8 tournament? They're sitting at 15-3 now and have a pretty good shot of 21-4 or 20-5. I think its safe to say everyone else is out of contention unless they run the table in the regular season (Naz, Ithaca, Stevens with 4-5 losses each).

sjfcards · January 26, 2010, 04:23:50 PM

I think Fisher can afford one more loss and still get in. If they lose in the E8 tourny, and are 21 or 22 and 4 I think they can get a pool C bid. I would not want to risk much more than that.
One thing that can hurt them is that they lost to two of the three best teams they have played in Desales and U of R.

magicman · January 26, 2010, 06:33:25 PM

Quote from: sjfcards on January 26, 2010, 04:23:50 PM
I think Fisher can afford one more loss and still get in. If they lose in the E8 tourny, and are 21 or 22 and 4 I think they can get a pool C bid. I would not want to risk much more than that.
One thing that can hurt them is that they lost to two of the three best teams they have played in Desales and U of R.

But at least they were "good losses". Would hurt a lot more if it was like Rochester's loss to 6-9 RIT or Ithaca's loss to 6-10 Utica. Fisher's is currently ranked #2 in the East Region on the Pool C board, behind Oneonta and ahead of Rochester. Rochester would get the 15th Pool C bid if the bids were handed out right now. So Fisher's in good shape
and unless they revert to a stretch run that resembes last year's 2-7 finish they should get in. I think they could lose 3 more games (2 reg. season, 1 E8 tourney) and would still get in with a 20-6 or 21-6 log. Looking at the other teams in the East I don't see anybody who's probably going to end up with a better record other than Medaille. SUNYAC and LL teams are beating up on each other. Rochester will lose at least 2 more games, possibly as many as 4, and Brockport, currently 4th in the East Region, has 6 of their last 10 conference games on the road, as does #1 Oneonta.

AUSaxons33344 · January 26, 2010, 08:53:56 PM

Rit up 32-20 on Alfred at the half....18-2 RIT early on...5 point spurt in the last 5 seconds to make it a 12 point game by AU....Just inside halfcourt buzzer beater by Ron Smith to end the half... RIT looks good on D..Saxons can't get anything going... Lets hope (for my sanity's sake) they can turn it around with a good start to the 2nd half.

GO SAXONS!!

AUSaxons33344 · January 26, 2010, 09:45:01 PM

Rit wins 58-45.... AU couldn't get anything going.... Low scoring game like most of the games v RIT usually are. Testament to good D or bad O??

sjfcards · January 26, 2010, 10:15:58 PM

Fisher did themselves a lot of favors tonight with a hard fought win over Naz, 80-75. Naz was a lot better than I had anticiapated. McAdam is an absolute stud, really hard to stop and he passes the ball really well. Their big man was playing toe to toe with both of Fisher's big men, if not outplaying them. And they really seemed to out-size Fisher at every position.

Fisher was able to hit some big shots down the stretch, and win a tough game. Big performance by Newman and Gettings when they needed it most. Very big win, as Fisher really put a firm grip on the #1 seed

FROMAFAR · January 27, 2010, 02:15:15 PM

Tigers early start last night kind of did Alfred in, Korinchak, and Terry had solid games and we got to the line a bit more than usual. Good sign.. Alfred only 3 assists and I think hit one 3

Thats a start... I know I am hoping against hope, and maybe McVean is already working toward next year... Used everyone lats night... But I'm keeping the door open........Hoping 8 wins can get in............with some tie breaker help, although I ma not sure if tie breakers will go our way EVEN IF we win 8........

I didn't see the NAZ FISHER game... looks like it was good one Naz plays them again, at NAZ.. But Fisher doesn't look like anyone can beat them, so it may not mean anything.... Looks like 2-5 hopefully 6 is still in question..........BUT

sjfcards · January 27, 2010, 06:08:59 PM

Fisher does look strong at the moment. They have been able to work their way through the first run of the league with out many real tight games, but they have some tough hurdles ahead. Naz was impressive last night, and having to play them one or two more times will be tough. Also, they may have to play Ithaca again, and I would not sleep on Stevens either.

I think Fisher has the big time inside track on winning the #1 seed, but I still think any of the top 3 or 4 teams have a chance to win the AQ. Hopefully, for us Fisher fans, Fisher has done, and can do, enough to win a pool C if they do not win the tournament.

Tough to see any other teams winning a Pool C bid from the E8 with things as they are now. IC or Naz, if they win out could be in some contention, but some tough losses earlier will makek it hard for them to make the NCAA's without winning the E8 tourny.

e8bballfan · January 27, 2010, 07:12:10 PM

Regarding the Naz @ Fisher game...

Really impressed w/Gettings. Yeah, he doesn't have a midrange or 3pt shot, but he can get in the lane and finish in traffic (even around bigs). He played well - just gotta cut down on those 6 turnovers.

Not so impressed w/Newman. Yeah, he's solid, but nothing special. He can't really shoot. It seemed every time he got in the lane he came to a jump stop, didn't shoot, looked around, pivoted a few times, and then kicked it out. Never was forcing help or creating shots for anyone else. He had 13 pts, and 6 of those came in the last 2-3 minutes from the line (gotta give him credit though for hitting the FTs down the stretch).

McAdam played great despite an off shooting night (10-22). He had to take a lot more 3s than he normally would (2-9...simple math, take away his 3pt shooting and he's 8-13 from the field - which is great.). I think he needs more offensive help around him. Scaffidi had a great game (17pts, 7-15 from field) but he needs Corletta (12 pts, 5-12) and Stephens (5pts, 2-10) to score more.

Fisher bench - 20 pts, 11rbs. Naz bench - 4 pts 5rbs.

Fisher definitely is sitting pretty for that #1 seed now - just got to stay focused and not have any slip-ups!

FROMAFAR · January 28, 2010, 08:36:37 AM

I know you guys think I'm nuts, so let me confirm that. We have Utica and Ithaca this weekend... obviously must wins, but if we can win both, I think we are still alive. I'm hoping this team pulls together and the talent (which we do have), transforms into team play.... Korinchak needs to get to the line... ( he has to penetrate more).. I need big games from Harder and Terry, the rest should fall into place. We have Fisher I think Tuesday... NOW if we could pull that one off as well, maybe I am really nuts, but

bomber3 · January 28, 2010, 09:31:26 AM

Quote from: FROMAFAR on January 28, 2010, 08:36:37 AM
I know you guys think I'm nuts, so let me confirm that. We have Utica and Ithaca this weekend... obviously must wins, but if we can win both, I think we are still alive. I'm hoping this team pulls together and the talent (which we do have), transforms into team play.... Korinchak needs to get to the line... ( he has to penetrate more).. I need big games from Harder and Terry, the rest should fall into place. We have Fisher I think Tuesday... NOW if we could pull that one off as well, maybe I am really nuts, but

No, I was going to post yesterday that RIT still controls their own destiny. They are only 2 games back in the loss column to the 3rd/4th place teams and play each of them. The problem is whether or not they can actually win these games - which I don't think is true. You said it yourself they haven't played together and they didn't necessarily turn the ship around against Elmira and Alfred. They have 6 wins so far this whole season and I think its a lot to ask to get at least 6 in the next 9 games when they have to play 5 teams ahead of them in the standings (2 on the road). They play teams tough and have a few quality wins but I don't think they have the consistency to put together a string like this. Essentially they are down 4 games with 9 to play so unless IC/Stevens channels their inner 2008? New York Mets I don't see RIT making it....

FROMAFAR · January 28, 2010, 09:37:08 AM

Bomber you could have least given me an hour of hope......Hey one at a time, Utica first, if we lose that then we are finished, I THINK

bomber3 · January 28, 2010, 11:15:03 AM

Quote from: FROMAFAR on January 28, 2010, 09:37:08 AM
Bomber you could have least given me an hour of hope......Hey one at a time, Utica first, if we lose that then we are finished, I THINK

Hey I said its in their hands...Win 7-9 of their remaining games and they'll definitely make it! I didn't realize how big a loss that IC game was last week -- it must have been a tough one to swallow. Not only did they blow a 25 point lead but they could be within 2 games of playoffs and possibly 1 if they won again this weekend at home....

FROMAFAR · January 28, 2010, 11:36:24 AM

Yea, it was big both ways, it would have cost you guys big if it went the other way. Have we ever seen so many games go from one extrenme to the other as we've seen this year. Many leads blown, OR many deficits made up.. I know e wdon't play great D, and IC plays great "o".... I think the only reason you guys are last in D is because you hoist them up so fast, you give the other guys more trips..............kind like "AIR CORYELL" Chargers years ago..........