Empire 8

[FROMAFAR]

OK, still breathing........... I believe the only reason we won last night is NAZ get tired. They had 5 guys play many minutes and finally lost their legs... I give NAZ credit we had them and let them back in... they had us in O.T. and I think they just were dragging in last 2 min. In any event, we have to win out and Ithaca has to lose to Hartwick and Stevens......Bomber am I missing any other scenario... ? Naz plays Fisher and I THINK ALfred........  I have been touting ALfred all year as pulling one off, boy that might murkey the waters?  

[bomber3]

OK, still breathing........... I believe the only reason we won last night is NAZ get tired. They had 5 guys play many minutes and finally lost their legs... I give NAZ credit we had them and let them back in... they had us in O.T. and I think they just were dragging in last 2 min. In any event, we have to win out and Ithaca has to lose to Hartwick and Stevens......Bomber am I missing any other scenario... ? Naz plays Fisher and I THINK ALfred........  I have been touting ALfred all year as pulling one off, boy that might murkey the waters?  

For RIT to get in over Ithaca this needs to happen:

RIT could get in without tiebreaker scenarios by winning out and have IC lose two games (between @ Hartwick, Elmira, and @ Stevens)

If they tie:  RIT would get the tiebreaker only if Ithaca loses @ Stevens and RIT wins @ Stevens, wins @ Hartwick, wins @ Utica (RIT would get tiebreaker due to IC losing @ Utica and RIT winning both).

If IC wins @ Stevens they would have the tiebreaker since they beat them twice. 

Anyone see any issues?

[FROMAFAR]

Nice job Bomber, sorry I had you go through that when, as we said, I'm just about  breathing........... So if you are an IC fan, you hope Fisher beats NAZ. If you are a Stevens fan, I guess you root for Naz, may help them in regional standings.... If your me, I root against everyone ahead of me.......in particular IC........ Too big of a hole.........    But still interesting

[bomber3]

Nice job Bomber, sorry I had you go through that when, as we said, I'm just about  breathing........... So if you are an IC fan, you hope Fisher beats NAZ. If you are a Stevens fan, I guess you root for Naz, may help them in regional standings.... If your me, I root against everyone ahead of me.......in particular IC........ Too big of a hole.........    But still interesting

For IC to pass Naz they would have to lose both (Fisher, Elmira) since Naz would have the tiebreaker (split season series and Naz wins tiebreaker since they beat Utica twice and IC lost once).  IC is more likely to catch Stevens since they play  next weekend.  IC would need to win out and hope Stevens trips up once in their other 3 games (Hartwick, RIT, Elmira), which would give IC the tiebreaker due to their season sweep.  But if IC wants to win the E8 tournament they're most likely going to have to play Fisher anyways so not that big a deal to play them in the first round...

[FISHERMAN]

Haaaaaters....come out and plaaaaay

In the beginning of the season I wrote a post that proclaimed that Fisher was "clearly the class of the E8". The posts immediately began to stream-in proclaiming my comment to be misinformed and over exagerated. Most of these responses, I might add, came from Fisher fans. My point was simple. Both the Fisher program and 2009/10 roster were elite. Fisher has won the E8 five (5) of the last seven (7) league titles and had almost an .800 winning percentage over that period. Anybody who does not believe that Fisher is the E8 team of the decade should be admitted to an insane asylum. I said the team this year was going to make waves in NCAA's and win the league. I based this on the fact that they had a talented roster, the best recruiting class in the league by far and unquestionably the best two coaches (Kornaker and Mahannna). Obviously, many people disagreed. I hope the haters, non-believers and those lacking the spine to make a bold prediction have realized the errors in their thinking. Eventhough it is easy to be right when you publicly support a top-level program like Fisher, it still feels good.

I cannot wait to smack Naz again. Guarantee we win by a larger margin than the last meeting.


VIVA LA CARDS!!!!

[Ethelred the Unready]

Haaaaaters....come out and plaaaaay

In the beginning of the season I wrote a post that proclaimed that Fisher was "clearly the class of the E8". The posts immediately began to stream-in proclaiming my comment to be misinformed and over exagerated. Most of these responses, I might add, came from Fisher fans. My point was simple. Both the Fisher program and 2009/10 roster were elite. Fisher has won the E8 five (5) of the last seven (7) league titles and had almost an .800 winning percentage over that period. Anybody who does not believe that Fisher is the E8 team of the decade should be admitted to an insane asylum. I said the team this year was going to make waves in NCAA's and win the league. I based this on the fact that they had a talented roster, the best recruiting class in the league by far and unquestionably the best two coaches (Kornaker and Mahannna). Obviously, many people disagreed. I hope the haters, non-believers and those lacking the spine to make a bold prediction have realized the errors in their thinking. Eventhough it is easy to be right when you publicly support a top-level program like Fisher, it still feels good.

I cannot wait to smack Naz again. Guarantee we win by a larger margin than the last meeting.


VIVA LA CARDS!!!!

Everything that is wrong with sports from a fans perspective.  All in one post.  Nice....

[e8bballfan]

Haaaaaters....come out and plaaaaay

In the beginning of the season I wrote a post that proclaimed that Fisher was "clearly the class of the E8". The posts immediately began to stream-in proclaiming my comment to be misinformed and over exagerated. Most of these responses, I might add, came from Fisher fans. My point was simple. Both the Fisher program and 2009/10 roster were elite. Fisher has won the E8 five (5) of the last seven (7) league titles and had almost an .800 winning percentage over that period. Anybody who does not believe that Fisher is the E8 team of the decade should be admitted to an insane asylum. I said the team this year was going to make waves in NCAA's and win the league. I based this on the fact that they had a talented roster, the best recruiting class in the league by far and unquestionably the best two coaches (Kornaker and Mahannna). Obviously, many people disagreed. I hope the haters, non-believers and those lacking the spine to make a bold prediction have realized the errors in their thinking. Eventhough it is easy to be right when you publicly support a top-level program like Fisher, it still feels good.

I cannot wait to smack Naz again. Guarantee we win by a larger margin than the last meeting.


VIVA LA CARDS!!!!

"The best recruiting class in the league by far"..according to whom? Is there a d-3 basketball recruiting website similar to Rivals that I'm missing? If you look at some of the stats of IC, SJFC and NAZs newcomers (Freshmen/transfers) they contribute 33.1ppg and 12.7 rpg at IC. 24.8 and 12.7 and Fisher and 27 and 16.2 at NAZ. So Fishers newcomers contribute less than the newcomers at IC and NAZ.

AND they have not just the best, but the TWO BEST coaches in the league! Mahanna is a better coach than McVean, Mullins, Broderick, Hurley, Conley (well, maybe...) and whoever the guys at 'Wick, Elmira, Alfred are..c'mon man.

Now, concerning the RIT-Naz game last night. Naz got tired it looked like. Plus, RIT just outhustled and outworked them. It seemed as though RIT got every 50-50 ball and tons of huge offensive boards down the stretch. I believe RIT finished with 17 offensive boards - that's what won that game.

It will be interesting to see who fills out seeds 2-4 for that E-8 Tourney.

[sjfcards]

Haaaaaters....come out and plaaaaay

In the beginning of the season I wrote a post that proclaimed that Fisher was "clearly the class of the E8". The posts immediately began to stream-in proclaiming my comment to be misinformed and over exagerated. Most of these responses, I might add, came from Fisher fans. My point was simple. Both the Fisher program and 2009/10 roster were elite. Fisher has won the E8 five (5) of the last seven (7) league titles and had almost an .800 winning percentage over that period. Anybody who does not believe that Fisher is the E8 team of the decade should be admitted to an insane asylum. I said the team this year was going to make waves in NCAA's and win the league. I based this on the fact that they had a talented roster, the best recruiting class in the league by far and unquestionably the best two coaches (Kornaker and Mahannna). Obviously, many people disagreed. I hope the haters, non-believers and those lacking the spine to make a bold prediction have realized the errors in their thinking. Eventhough it is easy to be right when you publicly support a top-level program like Fisher, it still feels good.

I cannot wait to smack Naz again. Guarantee we win by a larger margin than the last meeting.


VIVA LA CARDS!!!!

I would like to apologize to everyone on these boards for posts like this.

[magicman]

Haaaaaters....come out and plaaaaay

In the beginning of the season I wrote a post that proclaimed that Fisher was "clearly the class of the E8". The posts immediately began to stream-in proclaiming my comment to be misinformed and over exagerated. Most of these responses, I might add, came from Fisher fans. My point was simple. Both the Fisher program and 2009/10 roster were elite. Fisher has won the E8 five (5) of the last seven (7) league titles and had almost an .800 winning percentage over that period. Anybody who does not believe that Fisher is the E8 team of the decade should be admitted to an insane asylum. I said the team this year was going to make waves in NCAA's and win the league. I based this on the fact that they had a talented roster, the best recruiting class in the league by far and unquestionably the best two coaches (Kornaker and Mahannna). Obviously, many people disagreed. I hope the haters, non-believers and those lacking the spine to make a bold prediction have realized the errors in their thinking. Eventhough it is easy to be right when you publicly support a top-level program like Fisher, it still feels good.

I cannot wait to smack Naz again. Guarantee we win by a larger margin than the last meeting.


VIVA LA CARDS!!!!

I would like to apologize to everyone on these boards for posts like this.

sjfcards,
No need to apologize, we all know what we're dealing with here.

[magicman]

New Regional Rankings were released earlier today. Here's the East Region:

Through games of Sunday Feb. 7th 2010

East Region: In-Region Record followed by Overall Record
1. St. John Fisher 17-4 18-4
2. Stevens 16-4 16-4
3. Medaille 19-2 20-2
4. Oneonta State 15-5 16-5
5. New York University 13-6 14-6
6. Nazareth 14-6 15-7

For a complete list of all the regions click on this D3Hoops link:

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/

[Go Naz]

I know I'm a little late here but I caught the Naz-RIT game the other night and had a few thoughts.  I was really impressed with the Naz comeback.  They chipped away through the entire second half and made big plays down the stretch.  I think the hole was just too deep to dig out of and they ran out of gas in overtime.  On the RIT side, what a performance by Harder.  He is just a tough, hard working, physical kid.  He really pushed Lothridge around the paint.  I was also impressed by RIT's ability to maintain focus in overtime.  It would have been easy to fold the tents after Naz making some tough shots to force overtime and then going up 5 to start overtime.  RIT showed a great deal of poise in overtime to pull the game out. 

[FROMAFAR]

Go Naz, some nice things about RIT.......but a big issue was when Naz was climbing out of the hole, they didn't use their bench, and they looked exhausted in the end.....I give Naz a lot of credit for getting out of the hole (that has happened in many E-8 games this year), but they lost their legs at the end. Naz has a big one against Fisher, I believe Tuesday... I wonder how they will do against the NCAA bound ELITE E-8 Team, who is coached by the two best coaches in the E-8.... Maybe they shouldn't show up....... RELAX FISHERMAN, JUST SOME BAIT BEING THROWN OUT. I happen to agree Fischer is the Team to beat and has been, BUT they have proven they are beatable. It's ok to get excited about your team, but be cautious, SANS Elmira game......they play them for a reason.

My Tigers have Elmira and Utica this weekend.   A little nervous coming off emotional Naz win.. Elmira is feeling good about themselves, so we need to be careful.  Utica is actually floundering. I thought they had some telant, but I understand they are frustrated.... I hope the Tigers knock them out early.... I am more concerned about Elmira. I think the IC Hartwick game is interesting....... Actually a toss up in mind, BUT WHAT DO I KNOW

[bomber3]

Haaaaaters....come out and plaaaaay

In the beginning of the season I wrote a post that proclaimed that Fisher was "clearly the class of the E8". The posts immediately began to stream-in proclaiming my comment to be misinformed and over exagerated. Most of these responses, I might add, came from Fisher fans. My point was simple. Both the Fisher program and 2009/10 roster were elite. Fisher has won the E8 five (5) of the last seven (7) league titles and had almost an .800 winning percentage over that period. Anybody who does not believe that Fisher is the E8 team of the decade should be admitted to an insane asylum. I said the team this year was going to make waves in NCAA's and win the league. I based this on the fact that they had a talented roster, the best recruiting class in the league by far and unquestionably the best two coaches (Kornaker and Mahannna). Obviously, many people disagreed. I hope the haters, non-believers and those lacking the spine to make a bold prediction have realized the errors in their thinking. Eventhough it is easy to be right when you publicly support a top-level program like Fisher, it still feels good.

I cannot wait to smack Naz again. Guarantee we win by a larger margin than the last meeting.


VIVA LA CARDS!!!!

We'll take this one idiotic comment at a time:

1.  Is Fisher the best team in the E8? Yes, they probably are.  The coaches unanimously pick them to win the conference.  Everyone on this board predicted them to win the conference.  They returned EVERYONE from a 17 win team that at one point was in the top 25.  I would actually say 20/21 wins may be a little bit of a disappointment for this team.  IC two years ago won 17 games and returned pretty much everyone and came back and went 24-1 in the regular season the following year.  21 is about the amount of wins Fisher should have and easily could have won 22/23/24 games this season with the roster they returned.

2.  You said they will makes waves in NCAAs.  That is still TBD.

3. "Best recruiting class by far."  Other posters have touched upon this -- I know IC's freshman class is better than Fisher's and Naz may have a better one as well.  

4.  Regarding the two coaches-- Kornaker is one of the top coaches in the region and ran a hell of a program long before Mahanna arrived -- With several deep runs into the NCAAs along with an undefeated regular season.  Mahanna may very well be a good coach but Kornaker is the guy in charge and the one responsible for their success.  Mahanna's day may come but there are other young coaches in the region ahead of him for head coaching jobs and quite frankly Fisher was doing fine before he got there.  

God I hope IC has an "on" shooting day in a few weeks...

[e8bballfan]

FROMAFAR, yeah Naz didn't use their bench during their run. But had they then I don't think they would've made it to overtime. Their bench averages about 8ppg, 7rpg, and in the RIT game contributed 2pts, 3 rebounds. An upperclassmen who could provide help off the bench, Miranda, is nowhere to be found this season after missing last yr with an injury (he was averaging 5pts, 6rpg prior to injury).

[FROMAFAR]

E8 ball... yoyr right so they were damned if they did damned if they didn't. I agree about  Miranda. I saw him play when McAdams brother was hurt two years ago, and I thought he gave them good minutes. He was strong and seemed to play smart. I actually was wondering about him early on and then I forgot. Hey NAZ whats up with him. Does injury linger?