Empire 8

[sjfcards]

I think this year more than the past few years it is important for teams to get off to a good start in the conference. It seems like there are a ton of teams that have a chance at the top 4, and playing from behind Makes it tough Dow. The stretch. I see a conference where no game is an easy win, and teams that struggle early may run out of time to catch up.
I don't know if Fisher can turn on the switch and do well in the conference, but I an hoping. Some crazy weeks are ahead for sure.

[bomber3]

As I stated in previous posts, Elmira is an easy out.  They lost by 17, 46, 39, 19, 11, 3, 21, and 11.  They still aren't good.

Also, this team doesn't look very good either:

Lost by 21
Lost by 4
Won by 5 over a 2-5 team
Lost by 14
Lost by 4
Lost by 14

Any guesses who that team is?

[Cyclone0205]

As I stated in previous posts, Elmira is an easy out.  They lost by 17, 46, 39, 19, 11, 3, 21, and 11.  They still aren't good.

Also, this team doesn't look very good either:

Lost by 21
Lost by 4
Won by 5 over a 2-5 team
Lost by 14
Lost by 4
Lost by 14

Any guesses who that team is?

Just a hunch but I think you're referring to the Cards of St. John Fisher.

[FROMAFAR]

Is it Fisher?    I haven't looked too close at the records and point differentials.. I would have guessed Alfred, but they are doing pretty well I THINK..... also what happened to Blazek..... is he hurt? 

[Bombers798891]

Elmira looks terrible as they are want to do, and at least for the elite teams, won't be a challenge.

What will be interesting is Fisher and RIT. Are these just early season struggles, or are there larger issues at play here? From the looks of things, I'm worry about the Cardinals. It's not just the record. Fisher is atrocious shooting the ball, (36% from the floor and 23% from three point range,) and have a bad TO margin (-3.3). That can't be a good sign.

Big win for the Bombers last night

[FROMAFAR]

RIT does not have an identity........the same complaint I had about a supposedly good Stevens team two years ago..... They need a point guard who will run the show will some wins, like the Ducks did last year. I'm telling you without a gutsy point your going to struggle........it's like an ochestra without the guy waiving his baton up front.....I believe that is Fisher's problem too. I am not saying that is the only problem but the strong point helps a lot.
Hey we RIT --shoot  38% form the field and 30% from the 3..... we are out rebounded and have 14 more T/O than assists.......... those 3rd and 4th spots are wide open..... RIT does not look like it will make.... I won't speak for Fisher... yet......        

[magicman]

Stevens reverses a 65-62 Utica lead at the 5:36 mark with 7 straight pts and is never caught as they down the host Pioneers 73-69. Big road win for the Ducks and should place them into the conversation as a possible playoff team. Stevens has 4 players in double figures led by Mike Cutri with 18 pts, 6 rebounds and 5 assists. Simon Smith had a double-double with 17 pts and 11 boards, while Sheldon Jones also added 17 pts. Bryan Franklin was 6 for 7 from the field to total 12 pts.

James Patterson of Utica was the game's high scorer with 22 pts and Kevin Johnson chipped in with 20.

Stevens had the better night shooting as the Ducks went 30x56 from the field and 10x14 from the line. Utica was 30x74 from the field and only 3x9 from the foul line. Neither team shot well from behind the arc as Stevens was only 3x14 and Utica was 6x25. When you subtract the 3 pt. attempts from Stevens field goal shooting the Ducks were 27x42 (64.2%) inside the arc. Turnovers and rebounds were just about even.

Utica's next game is Dec. 14th when they travel to Union for an 8 PM start.
Stevens is off until Jan. 3rd when they travel to RPI for a 7 PM game against the Red Hawks.
   

[sjfcards]

Elmira looks terrible as they are want to do, and at least for the elite teams, won't be a challenge.

What will be interesting is Fisher and RIT. Are these just early season struggles, or are there larger issues at play here? From the looks of things, I'm worry about the Cardinals. It's not just the record. Fisher is atrocious shooting the ball, (36% from the floor and 23% from three point range,) and have a bad TO margin (-3.3). That can't be a good sign.

Big win for the Bombers last night

There is no doubt that Fisher has been awful so far. They are really missing a big man, and have gotten nothing out of Koch. They play a younger lineup, and really have not had any flow to their games. No one can make the argument that Fisher belongs in the conversation for the conference tourny with what they have done so far, I am just hoping that eventually talent will step up. Say what you want about Fisher, they are always a team that is in the top part of the conference talent wise.

[Bombers798891]

Bombers win a shootout with Oneonta, 94-86 to close out the year.

Miles Grier scores 21 to lead five Bombers in double-figures. IC only takes 14 three pointers, as Grier's recent spurt of inspired play gives them another inside, and makes them less reliant on the outside shot.

Eight assists for Rossi.

Ithaca enters the break 7-2, with four players in double figures, and two more at 8 points or more. The offense is humming again, with at least 94 points in three straight games...

[magicman]

St. John Fisher opens league play with a 59-53 win over visiting Alfred. Brent Harder led the Cardinals in scoring with 15 pts.

Cardinals move to 2-5 on the year and will next play host to Carnegie Mellon on Sat. December 18th at 2 PM.

[maxpower]

Eight assists for Rossi.

[sjfcards]

St. John Fisher opens league play with a 59-53 win over visiting Alfred. Brent Harder led the Cardinals in scoring with 15 pts.

Cardinals move to 2-5 on the year and will next play host to Carnegie Mellon on Sat. December 18th at 2 PM.

Not a real great performance for Fisher, but at this point, a win is a win. Fisher has to just forget the start to this season and focus on the most important record they havce going, 1-0 in conference. They need to start scoring to have any shot at the top 4 in conference. It was nice to see Jason Norsen in the game today. Hopefully he can help. 

[FROMAFAR]

Tigers 68-63 over 1-9 Elmira at home   We shoot 52% for the game, Elmira shoots 40%. We shoot 3-17  Elmira 6-20....from 3.. Foul shots even.
Rebounds and fouls about even... We get off 5 more shots and hit 4 more than Eagles... That's the differenc between us and a 1-9 team on the road Who's our go to guy, Heisig, Harder, Terry........We needa n ochestra leader JUST TO START..We have absolutely no identity    BUT ..   

[Bombers798891]

So regarding the whole RIT-Fisher thing, where do you guys stand? A win is a win, but these performances cannot be inspirational.

Trailing Elmira in the second half at home? Ugh.

Fisher looks like they lead solidly--if perhaps not comfortably--the whole way, but Alfred has been very bad in conference play for awhile now.

Those two teams really need to play better if they want to stay in this thing

[FROMAFAR]

Bomber 798xxx your right.. Basically RIT's only shot at the E-8 tourney is 3rd or 4th place.... for that to happen.......everyone other than IC and Nazareth have to be as bad... Which they could be..... won't know how good the others are until they start playing each other. I know Cyclone-- Stevens won on the road at a SEEMINGLY improved UC team...But they both have to be able to beat Fisher and RIT......which IF THEY ARE GOOD they should and will.. If they don't then 5 are fighting for 2 positions..... Sorry Elmira and Alfred not yet......