Empire 8

[Ethelred the Unready]

Elmira up 40-26 on the Wick at the half? Holy cow

Utica leads Fisher 45-38

Naz only up 4 on Alfred 39-35

Hasn't Elmira been close a lot this year?  Maybe they found a way to get over the hump

[Bombers798891]

Elmira up 40-26 on the Wick at the half? Holy cow

Utica leads Fisher 45-38

Naz only up 4 on Alfred 39-35

Hasn't Elmira been close a lot this year?  Maybe they found a way to get over the hump

Fisher comes back to top Utica 79-69.

It was upset night in the rest of the Empire 8.

Elmira (4-13) obliterates Hartwick (11-6) 88-62. Winning the rebound battle by 15 is a big reason why

Bombers take down 20th-ranked Stevens 80-69. Ithaca shoots 33 free throws to Stevens' 13. But here's what's weird: The foul disparity was only 21-15, and it was 18-15 with 44 seconds to go and Ithaca up 76-67 when Stevens started fouling. Interesting.

Alfred (4-13) tops Nazareth (11-7) 80-76. Saxons go 12-of-18 from three and commit only four turnovers.

Ithaca is showing how good they can be. Five players finish in double figures, and Tom Sweeney adds nine. Bombers are now 12-4 overall, and 11-2 in their last 13

[Bombers798891]

Ithaca is taking Hartwick to the woodshed.. Bombers lead 41-20 at the break, without Andrei Oztemel. Have the Hawks been exposed? They allow Elmira to score the most points they've scored in 10 years, and now are getting lit up by a Bomber team not playing one of its leading scorers. Ithaca's really good, but this is an ugly effort by Hartwick

[Bombers798891]

Bombers win 75-54. Travis Warech scores 21.

[Bombers798891]

The E8 is officially a mess. Fisher, Utica, Naz, and Hartwick are indistinguishable at this point. Any of them could make or miss the tournament and I wouldn't be surprised. Ithaca and Stevens are the only two squads that have distinguished themselves. Really an unimpressive middle of the pack

[Ethelred the Unready]

The E8 is officially a mess. Fisher, Utica, Naz, and Hartwick are indistinguishable at this point. Any of them could make or miss the tournament and I wouldn't be surprised. Ithaca and Stevens are the only two squads that have distinguished themselves. Really an unimpressive middle of the pack

Any idea why Hartwick has fallen so hard?  I checked and it looks like they only lost 3 seniors from last years team so they should have plenty of guys who know how to win.  Was Blazek that important?

[dcahill44]

My top 4 team in the E8 Stay the same after the weekend. in order my top 4 teams are Ithaca, Stevens, Naz, Fisher. even though Naz has lost there last 4. I think they are hungry for next weekends game at Home vs Ithaca to prove themselves, not saying they will win but will definetly have a chance to beat Ithaca.

[Ethelred the Unready]

My top 4 team in the E8 Stay the same after the weekend. in order my top 4 teams are Ithaca, Stevens, Naz, Fisher. even though Naz has lost there last 4. I think they are hungry for next weekends game at Home vs Ithaca to prove themselves, not saying they will win but will definetly have a chance to beat Ithaca.

Dude, I'm going to +K you just for your eternal optimism regarding Naz....

[dcahill44]

what do you mean +k?

[Ethelred the Unready]

what do you mean +k?

karma

[dcahill44]

Elmira isnt a bad team even with though there record is bad. same thing with Utica. Both teams have good players. Utica could even sneak in the Empire 8 tournament.

[dcahill44]

Nazareth has a HUGE game at home this friday against Ithaca. Oztemel was in a walking boot last night and from sources i heard Warech severely sprained his ankle. If Warech and Oztemel i think Naz can definetly get a win. Still Rossi, Mitchell and Sweeney to deal with though. Naz will have a tough game regardless the injuries. Still deciding who i think the best team is in the E8 Ithaca or Stevens. I really like Stevens but will watch Ithaca live in person this friday.
Go Naz

[dcahill44]

Well after Utica losing and Naz beating Ithaca Naz moves into 4th seed in the empire 8. I think Naz will get past Fisher and get the 3 seed in the Empire 8 Tournament. Stevens will get the 1 seed, 2 will be Ithaca, 3 Naz, and 4th Fisher. the only reason I put Stevens 1st is because how bad Ithaca is banged up.

[buck1053]

So, I was looking at the regional rankings and the Massey ratings and I was curious about how that all shook out, as the Massey ratings have some teams higher than others, while the regional rankings don't reflect that same lineup. I'm assuming it's because the ratings are through this weekend's games and the rankings came out before that.

EAST                  
1   Rochester (N.Y.)   18-1   19-1         
2   SUNY Cortland   17-2   17-3         
3   Stevens Institute of Technology   15-3   17-3         
4   New York University   13-7   13-7         
5   Hobart   12-6   13-6         
6   SUNY Geneseo   14-6   14-7

Now, U of R is 20-2, having gone 1-1 since the rankings came out. Of course, the loss is out of region, against Wash U today, and the win is out of region as well, correct?
Cortland is 19-3, two wins in region
Stevens is 20-3, with their three wins all in region
NYU is 13-9, both of their losses were out of region, right?
Hobart is 16-6, their three wins are in region
Geneseo is 14-9, and both of their losses were in region.

Now, according to the latest Massey ratings, through Feb. 9, the top 10 teams in East, I believe (don't shoot me if I'm wrong, I don't usually try to figure such things out, but I was curious so I gave it a shot. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, though) are:

1) U of R (Massey rating 6, sure to drop with today's loss by 19)
2) Cortland (21)
3) Stevens (48)
4) Hobart (60)
5) Union (74)
6) NYU (75)
7) Plattsburgh (78)
8) Oswego (87)
9) Ithaca (103)
10) Brockport (107)

Geneseo, which was sixth in the regional rankings, was 12th in the East in the Massey ratings at 128, behind Buffalo State which was rated 122nd.

I'm assuming the next regional rankings will have the same top 5, though, since U of R and NYU's games were out of region, right? And my other question is who the 6th team will be in the next rankings? I mean, according to Massey, it would be Union, but since their schedule strength is low, wouldn't Plattsburgh or Oswego seem more likely to get into the top 6?

Again, just curious how this is all shaking out. I appreciate the enlightenment from the much more informed board members.

[Ethelred the Unready]

So, I was looking at the regional rankings and the Massey ratings and I was curious about how that all shook out, as the Massey ratings have some teams higher than others, while the regional rankings don't reflect that same lineup. I'm assuming it's because the ratings are through this weekend's games and the rankings came out before that.

EAST                  
1   Rochester (N.Y.)   18-1   19-1         
2   SUNY Cortland   17-2   17-3         
3   Stevens Institute of Technology   15-3   17-3         
4   New York University   13-7   13-7         
5   Hobart   12-6   13-6         
6   SUNY Geneseo   14-6   14-7

Now, U of R is 20-2, having gone 1-1 since the rankings came out. Of course, the loss is out of region, against Wash U today, and the win is out of region as well, correct?
Cortland is 19-3, two wins in region
Stevens is 20-3, with their three wins all in region
NYU is 13-9, both of their losses were out of region, right?
Hobart is 16-6, their three wins are in region
Geneseo is 14-9, and both of their losses were in region.

Now, according to the latest Massey ratings, through Feb. 9, the top 10 teams in East, I believe (don't shoot me if I'm wrong, I don't usually try to figure such things out, but I was curious so I gave it a shot. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, though) are:

1) U of R (Massey rating 6, sure to drop with today's loss by 19)
2) Cortland (21)
3) Stevens (48)
4) Hobart (60)
5) Union (74)
6) NYU (75)
7) Plattsburgh (78)
8) Oswego (87)
9) Ithaca (103)
10) Brockport (107)

Geneseo, which was sixth in the regional rankings, was 12th in the East in the Massey ratings at 128, behind Buffalo State which was rated 122nd.

I'm assuming the next regional rankings will have the same top 5, though, since U of R and NYU's games were out of region, right? And my other question is who the 6th team will be in the next rankings? I mean, according to Massey, it would be Union, but since their schedule strength is low, wouldn't Plattsburgh or Oswego seem more likely to get into the top 6?

Again, just curious how this is all shaking out. I appreciate the enlightenment from the much more informed board members.

NYU and Uof R league games are counted as in region. As for Rochester losing to WashU this weekend, I don't think they have ever won both games of the Chicago/St. Louis weekend and losing to ranked WashU is better than losing to Chicago.