Empire 8

[UCgrad45]

UC 99 Suny-IT 76.


Ray Bryant with 26 points, 20 rebounds, and 7 assists. Jack Lighthall with 25 points and 7 boards. Doug Herring had 8 points and 9 assists. Brian Collier had 13 points. Bobby Whyte had 11 points.

Game was never in doubt after the first 10 minutes. Bryant had 4 less rebounds that Suny IT. Herring had 1 less assist than the wildcats. Great game.

[sjfcards]

Fisher squeaks it out against Geneseo tonight...allowing me to feel a little bit better after the football game today...

[coach no name]

Big game outta danny mscweeny helps fisher beat geneseo.  Fisher shows that even when they arent hittin the 3 ball then can still generate offense.  Mike mckeever was huge off the bench and i feel was the reason fisher won tonight.  He banged 2 huge 3 pointers and was calm and collected against the geneseo press.  TImmy coyne forced the 5 second call that gave fisher the ball back at the end of the game wit the score tied.  Good teams win close games, thats 2 big wins for fisher in the last 3 days

[FisherDynasty]

Ray Bryant 20 boards? I know he has all the hype and what not but he definatly exploits his talent to the highest.  I mean he has no dribble, no jumper, but i will say he creates amazing mismatches at the powerforward or the 3 spot for most teams.  He has a nose for the basket.  I just dont see how he does it, i truthfully dont think hes that amazing.  Anyways, great win for Fisher, beats the best team in the SUNYAC in my opinion after a tough battle with the 2nd best team in Rochester UofR.  When Fishers guards are playing well (didnt tonight) they can beat anyone in the Region, when they are playin the norm, they can lose to a lot of teams.  This being said they will lose a few games to teams the shouldnt lose too, they have very bad perimiter defense (the 2-3 zone one them the game tonight) and make too many mistakes, however, there big men are better then anyone in the Region (besides NYU).  All in all two great wins for Fisher, and goodluck against Cortland (will beat) and York (maybe depends on the guards).  Fisher should contend for the E8 title but it will be close against Utica.  We'll see how Fisher plays on the road. 

[sjfcards]

I am kind of interested in how the Fisher season will progress through the season...

I think winning close games early in the season the way they have the last two games will be huge later in the season for a young team... I am sure that they will lose a few more games this year than they have in the last few years,...I am thinking around 6 or 7.
The more I follow this years team in the early season the more confident I become that they can and will challenge for the E8 title. the biggest reason for the spike in confidence is that Fisher could easily be 2-3, However, with a young team and an inexperienced backcourt...they have found a way to win and are standing at 4-1...winning games, and building confidence and talent can go a long way to winning huge games late in the season, against E8 teams, when they matter most...

My prediction for the E8 season:
1)Fisher
2)Utica
3)Naz
4)Ithaca
5)RIT
6)Alfred
7)Hartwick
8)Elmira

I seems a little harder to predict the league this year...picking 1 & 2 was tough, but I am sure it will be those 2 teams in some order...but the rest of the league was a lot harder to predict than previous years.

[assassin]

What a game last night between Fisher and Geneseo!  Geneseo outplays Fisher for most of the night but goes cold over last 5 min. and misses somekey free throws.  McSweeney played like a stud and Geneseo's guards outplayed Fisher's.  That being said, it was a TRAVESTY for a great game like that to be decided by a bogus call with 4 seconds left instead of letting the players decide it.  A squirmish on the floor (25 ft. from basket) for a loose ball ends up in a terrible reach in call that sends McSweeney to the line to hit the winning FT.  You cannot make that call.  Should have been a jump ball or no call and let the players decide the game in OT.  Very suspect to say the least.

[not_josh_reed]

A squirmish on the floor (25 ft. from basket) for a loose ball ends up in a terrible reach in call that sends McSweeney to the line to hit the winning FT.  You cannot make that call.  Should have been a jump ball or no call and let the players decide the game in OT.

Good point roc fan, incidently this call was made right in front of the fisher bench, the Geneseo coach must feel it was a home job.  Should have been a jump ball and finished in ot.

What really lost the game however was Geneseo not scoring in the last six minutes. 

Fisher is lucky to be 4-1.  This early success will not continue unless the guards elevate their play. Last night with 43 minutes of play between coyne and newman they had 3 points.  Thank god Mckiever chipped in two threes off the bench to give the guards some production.  He also seemed to have more court presence then the other two.   They will be schooled by Canorie and McAdam when Fisher visits Nazareth on Jan 6th

Lastly what is the deal with the other Beigel? He must be a great baseball player but is a waste of a roster spot and bench space in basketball.  His two minutes on the court were an insult to Fenyn/Beardon.  What could Kornacker  be thinking?

[FisherDynasty]

Yeah, Fisher was pretty fortunate (not luck) to win the last 2 games.  In both games, Fisher was down most of the game but stuck around and made it happen when it counted.  And yes their guards are going to be suspect all season, their young and small.  However, when they get great games from them they can beat anyone in the Region and when they get their norm they will be in any game but will drop some games.  As far as getting schooled by Naz i have to disagree.  Its going to be another very close game,  Naz isnt as good as Geneseo or UofR.  Fisher being 4-1 with the teams they play is excellent.  They will only get better as the season goes on, and the majority of the games they play they will win on talent alone.  So all in all they should end up with another good record my guess is 20-6.

[reelentless]

Ray Bryant 20 boards? I know he has all the hype and what not but he definatly exploits his talent to the highest.  I mean he has no dribble, no jumper, but i will say he creates amazing mismatches at the powerforward or the 3 spot for most teams.  He has a nose for the basket.  I just dont see how he does it, i truthfully dont think hes that amazing. 


It's magic!   Don't watch the wand, watch the magician.

[UCgrad45]

Ray Bryant 20 boards? I know he has all the hype and what not but he definatly exploits his talent to the highest.  I mean he has no dribble, no jumper, but i will say he creates amazing mismatches at the powerforward or the 3 spot for most teams.  He has a nose for the basket.  I just dont see how he does it, i truthfully dont think hes that amazing. 


It's magic!   Don't watch the wand, watch the magician.

If you think Ray doesn't have a jumper and dribble then you havn't seen him play very often. His jumper and dribble are a huge part of what makes him so dangerous. He can go by you or simply put a 3 or long 2 in your eye. When he shoots it, the net barely moves as the shot goes in.

[FisherDynasty]

I exagerated on the no jumper no dribble.  He does have a solid jumper and a solid dribble especially for a 4 man.  He is too strong for most guards to cover and too quick for most powerforwards, therefore creates many mismatches.  Its just when I see him play, his game is a little rugged than most all-american type players.  Dont get me wrong, he gets the job done and plays very hard, I just think when he has plays agains very good oppenants that have similar type players then he gets put back to reality. 

[UCgrad45]

I exagerated on the no jumper no dribble.  He does have a solid jumper and a solid dribble especially for a 4 man.  He is too strong for most guards to cover and too quick for most powerforwards, therefore creates many mismatches.  Its just when I see him play, his game is a little rugged than most all-american type players.  Dont get me wrong, he gets the job done and plays very hard, I just think when he has plays agains very good oppenants that have similar type players then he gets put back to reality. 

I don't know man. He averaged over 20 points and 10 boards against teams that meet those standards in the tourny last year.

[tigerfan2]

Sounds like UCGrad45 has a Man Crush on Ray Bryant.

[FisherDynasty]

I didnt see the WPI game but against Fisher all 4 games, neither of them did he play great and score alot, he may have gotten 20 in one of them, however, the game was already out of hand and most were garbage points off put backs or free throws.  But enough talk about Ray, hes a very good player, and one of the best in the league, so theres no point in arguing over how good he is.

[UCgrad45]

Sounds like UCGrad45 has a Man Crush on Ray Bryant.

Like you don't.