Empire 8

[slickyquick]

During that point of the season and it is all about matchups. Ask any coach that. Fisher didn't match up with Potsdam at all and it was obvious at the tip.

I actually saw Fisher play about 5 or 6 times that year and I saw Potsdam probably the same amount. I do agree with Jose on this that pressure neutralizes talent but the real talented players fight through it and play better.

[slickyquick]

I'm pretty sure he is at Upstate Med, both him and Jim Connelly ending up going there.

[gobombers15]

I was referring to Corrin Jackson from EC. He was 1st team E8 3 years in a row.

I forgot about this guy.  He could really fill it up.

Word on the street is Jackson was in San Diego at one point playing in a City League with IC's Jason Wallen and Will Hill.

Hm, I don't think I ever saw him play. Elmira was the one home game I'd always skip. It was seemingly always on a random Tuesday night and I couldn't muster the energy to go watch. Sounds like he was a good player.

Re: Fisher v. Potsdam. Potsdam won that game because they came out and hit Fisher in the mouth from the opening tip and the Cards weren't prepared for it. As to who would win more times if they played ten times, who cares? Potsdam won the one game that did matter. However, if we're going to get into that type of hypothetical, I think Potsdam would have had the advantage. Some teams are just tough matchups for other teams, and that's what Potsdam was for Fisher. Their two best defenders (Connelly, Lynn) could stay with Fisher's two biggest threats. We knew that whole year that Fisher would have difficulty against a big team that could rebound well: that was Potsdam (Turner, Harris). Potsdam also had some very athletic players on that team (Barton, Clayton). You can make arguments until you're blue in the face, but Potsdam was just a tough matchup for Fisher.  The SUNYAC was a better conference than the E8 that particular year; last year, the E8 dominated. We shouldn't still be talking about that game.

I'm pretty sure he is at Upstate Med, both him and Jim Connelly ending up going there.

My college roommate goes to Upstate Med and would be a year ahead of them. I'll ask him and get back to you later on if it is still unknown.

[gobombers15]

I just made my 1,000th post and didn't even mention the word "Ithaca" once. What a rook move. A real faux pas.

[JQV]

I just made my 1,000th post and didn't even mention the word "Ithaca" once. What a rook move. A real faux pas.

Congrats on the 1000.  +k.  Go back and edit in a Go Bombers.  Or at least a Cortland Sucks.

[rjcarter8]

I know Hartwick is and has not been a top team in the league, but I'd offer up Joel Blackwell (1999-2003) with 1,071 career points (No. 21 on the school's all-time scoring list), 676 career rebounds (No. 3), 60 career blocks (No. 3), 119 career steals (No. 6), and 96 career 3-pointers (No. 9).

[FisherDynasty]

Good call GB15 Def enough said about the Fisher Vs Potsdam matchup.  Joel Blackwell is another very good player, however, id have to give him 2nd team at most.  my first team dating back about 7-8 years includes:

Jimmy Evans PG/SG6'5
Brandon Redmund SG 6'4
Corrin Jackson SF 6'5
Ty Shultz 6'6
Dan McSweeny this year 6'7 (Can't remember many good big men in the E8, so this spot im least comfortable with) if you want to go back further Mike Jones (RIT) would be a lock in this spot.

[gobombers15]

Good call GB15 Def enough said about the Fisher Vs Potsdam matchup.  Joel Blackwell is another very good player, however, id have to give him 2nd team at most.  my first team dating back about 7-8 years includes:

Jimmy Evans PG/SG6'5
Brandon Redmund SG 6'4
Corrin Jackson SF 6'5
Ty Shultz 6'6
Dan McSweeny this year 6'7 (Can't remember many good big men in the E8, so this spot im least comfortable with) if you want to go back further Mike Jones (RIT) would be a lock in this spot.

A Fisher guy leaving O'Brien off the first team? He was never a numbers guy, but, in my opinion, was always the reason those Fisher teams were as good as they were. I like McSweeney but if we're going to do an all-time E8 team, one standout year (this year, presumably) probably would make him a 2nd-teamer, at best. He showed big things in spurts but, until this year, never really put it together for extended periods. I'd say anything on him is a bit premature. Other than that, can't complain too much. I'm assuming you never saw Britton play, though. He's been the best IC player since E8 play begain, with Ty in 2nd and Bellis 3rd.

[FisherDynasty]

You're right add O'brien in, not sure what position Britton played.  You're also right on Mcsweeney, just cant think of a lot of standout big men in the E8.  maybe ryan shipley was solid, dillon stein isnt bad, the big man for harwick was descent that played with blackwell, and idk who else tim troy, Mark Nigli maybe.

[gobombers15]

Forgot to mention that IC took care of Potsdam at their place over the weekend, 91-78. The win gives Mullins a 3-1 record over his old protege Sherry Dobbs. Jeff Bostic finishes up a nice week with 19 and 7. Sean Burton pours in 23 on a ridiculous 7-for-9 from 3pt range.  Sean Stahn chipped in 14 and freshman Tom Brown added 10 and 8 off the bench. Sounds like the Bombers have a nice combo at the center position with Bostic and Brown. If Brown could be half the player his sister was at IC, we'll do just fine this year.

[fisheralum91]

i think my chairman made my point that i ws trying to say and not able to do so---were on the same page Mr. Chairman

[JQV]

i think my chairman made my point that i ws trying to say and not able to do so---were on the same page Mr. Chairman

The E8 government is a well oiled machine...

[tigerfan2]

There was no way Murphy was starting at the 4 over Sidney.

I was putting Sidney at the 3 and McGhee at the 4. So I guess I'll re-phrase and say that Murphy could've started at the 3 on that team.

[fisheralum91]

The senator approves!

[rjcarter8]

the big man for harwick was descent that played with blackwell

I think the big man you might be referring to is Nate Cramer, but I'm not sure if he played enough over his career — as far as being an integral part of teams — to merit mention on one of the top 2 teams.

If you want to talk about lost potential — Hartwick's Dave Orr has to rank up there.