Empire 8

fisheralum91 · December 13, 2006, 04:13:13 PM

hartwick has a basketball team?

FisherDynasty · December 13, 2006, 04:49:16 PM

Agreed with both points rjcarter. Dave orr could have been very good, after his injury tho, i think it was too hard.

gobombers15 · December 13, 2006, 04:50:48 PM

RJ, you seem to know your 'Wick hoops. What happened to that kid Greg Bettencourt that played there two seasons ago? He was their best player and one of the top freshmen in the conference. I'd have to think that if he stayed he and Cocozziello would have formed a nice 1-2 punch for the Hawks.

sjfcards · December 13, 2006, 09:08:32 PM

Quote from: gobombers15 on December 13, 2006, 12:56:06 PM
Quote from: FisherDynasty on December 13, 2006, 12:00:18 PM
Good call GB15 Def enough said about the Fisher Vs Potsdam matchup. Joel Blackwell is another very good player, however, id have to give him 2nd team at most. my first team dating back about 7-8 years includes:

Jimmy Evans PG/SG6'5
Brandon Redmund SG 6'4
Corrin Jackson SF 6'5
Ty Shultz 6'6
Dan McSweeny this year 6'7 (Can't remember many good big men in the E8, so this spot im least comfortable with) if you want to go back further Mike Jones (RIT) would be a lock in this spot.

A Fisher guy leaving O'Brien off the first team? He was never a numbers guy, but, in my opinion, was always the reason those Fisher teams were as good as they were. I like McSweeney but if we're going to do an all-time E8 team, one standout year (this year, presumably) probably would make him a 2nd-teamer, at best. He showed big things in spurts but, until this year, never really put it together for extended periods. I'd say anything on him is a bit premature. Other than that, can't complain too much. I'm assuming you never saw Britton play, though. He's been the best IC player since E8 play begain, with Ty in 2nd and Bellis 3rd.

I agree with most of the list...but I definatly agree that Sean Obrien has to be on the list for first team...and I also remember two guys for AU that were real good a whle ago. Don't know there name but I think it was a real athletic guard...and a real tall center (almost 7 ft)

sjfcards · December 13, 2006, 09:12:20 PM

How about a Jeff Sydney or a Fran Snyder for a first team as well...both were real good players...My first team is getting a little large...

tigerfan2 · December 13, 2006, 09:24:15 PM

The big guy from AU was Kareen McKinnon. AU was loaded for a couple years when they had him, Docteur, Downing, Stortini. They probably would have been even better but their PG (Will Smith I believe) missed the entire year with an injury so Downing got pushed to playing the 1 instead of the 2.

They also had a pretty good bench those years

Probably the best example of how Murphy wasted a ton of talent down in the Southern Tier.

I think if you wanted to put a team together based on position Ty Schultz played most of his time at the 5 from what I remember so I would go with:

Redmond
Downing
O'Brien
Jackson
Schultz

I can't really remember much about Britton but maybe he deserves to be up there as well.

sjfcards · December 13, 2006, 09:29:48 PM

Looks like a pretty solid list to me...I am a little suprised to not see more Fisher players on the list...considering how dominate they have been over the past few years. So many good players (Mark Niggli, Jeff Sydney, Aaron Berwanger, Nick Bennet and the like)

FisherDynasty · December 13, 2006, 10:33:51 PM

Any Fisher player off the Starting five of past teams chris sullivan, RJ, mark nigli, bennett, sidney, o'brien). However, Fran snyder belongs no wheres near that list.

Caz Bombers · December 13, 2006, 11:21:46 PM

Greg Betancourt, a native of North Jersey, was listed on last year's Ramapo roster but apparently never appeared in a game nor is he on this year's team.

Oh, and Mr. Chairman Viper, Devean George played for Augsburg (Minneapolis MN).

fisheralum91 · December 14, 2006, 08:06:23 AM

wow this thread is light lately...

Any good games coming up in the E8?

tigerfan2 · December 14, 2006, 08:40:50 AM

QuoteAny Fisher player off the Starting five of past teams chris sullivan, RJ, mark nigli, bennett, sidney, o'brien). However, Fran snyder belongs no wheres near that list.

Apparently if you step of the floor as a starter for Fisher over the last 3-4 years you should be in the discussion for the All-E8 team but if you posted solid numbers throughout your career like Fran Snyder did you don't deserve any mention. Snyder was Rookie of the year is Freshman year and also was named 2nd team E8 his Jr. year and 1st. Team E8 his Sr. year.

Bennett, Niggli and Fiorelli were never on the 1st team and Berwanger never made it past honorable mention.

Get off your high horse FisherDynasty.

JQV · December 14, 2006, 08:46:15 AM

Quote from: tigerfan2 on December 14, 2006, 08:40:50 AM
QuoteAny Fisher player off the Starting five of past teams chris sullivan, RJ, mark nigli, bennett, sidney, o'brien). However, Fran snyder belongs no wheres near that list.

Apparently if you step of the floor as a starter for Fisher over the last 3-4 years you should be in the discussion for the All-E8 team but if you posted solid numbers throughout your career like Fran Snyder did you don't deserve any mention. Snyder was Rookie of the year is Freshman year and also was named 2nd team E8 his Jr. year and 1st. Team E8 his Sr. year.

Bennett, Niggli and Fiorelli were never on the 1st team and Berwanger never made it past honorable mention.

Get off your high horse FisherDynasty.

Snyder was a solid player. Definitely deserves consideration. He was a bit undersized but strong as an ox and mean as hell too. Good rebounder.

fisheralum91 · December 14, 2006, 08:58:39 AM

ok- any good games to watch out for?
I know the break is coming up---still....

FisherDynasty · December 14, 2006, 09:15:52 AM

Not on a high horse at all, just said they're worth mentioning. Also, its tough to have a whole starting 5 to be on the 1st team, there isnt enough stats to go around. If any of the players were on another team, they would have been avg. 15 a game instead of a spread out 10 pts with a different high scorer night in and night out.

And Fran snyder definatly was not mean, he had a solid fresh year and thats about it. He would have played 8 minutes a game for Fisher.

Anyways, enough arguing, are there anymore games left before break for E8 teams?

gobombers15 · December 14, 2006, 09:37:08 AM

I agree Snyder doesn't warrant 1st team consideration. That said, he would have had he not had issues with his knees. Physically, during his junior and senior years, he was no more than 80% the player he was during his freshman season. He would have been a great one if he didn't have knee issues.