Empire 8

[gobombers15]

There is alot being talked about in this confrence. One team that is'nt is Utica. Not only are they the best team in the E8 but they are also the best team in the region. A sweet sixteen appearance last season and looking even better this season; The Pioneers are one of the most exciting D3 teams in the country. Ray Bryant is a man playing with boys and Dennis Munch can take over a game without scoring a point. Doug Herring is good enought to play anywhere and he is only getting smarter on the court. Along with Lighthall playing solid underneath and Collier starting to can some big shots, we can expect huge things for this team to come. -The Doctor

1) What is there to talk about regarding Utica? I think it has already been said that they're the best team in the conference right now. Do you want the last month of the season to just be a glorified processional for the Pioneers. They are certainly in the driver's seat but will have to exorcise their demons on Fisher's home floor (which I don't think they'll do) and avoid slipping up elsewhere (which I think they'll be able to avoid). In the immortal words of Denny Green, "if you want to crown them, go ahead and crown their a**es." They only beat Naz by two on a shot in the waning seconds and they still struggled against Fisher on their home floor.

2) Utica the best team in the region? I'm not so sure. I'd be interested to see them play against UR, who seems to have hit their stride of late. Heck, I'd like to see them beat Hamilton before I call them the tops in the region. They barely nipped a middle-of-the-pack Oswego team last week. I don't think an undefeated run through the first round of a conference that is mired in mediocrity this year warrants deeming them the top team in the region.

3) "Ray Bryant is a man among boys." Literally. He's 26 or 27 and playing against 18-22 year olds. He is a man, playing against boys.

4) "Doug Herring is good enough to play anywhere." So long as "anywhere" entails a D3 school not ranked in the top 10 or 15. Then, yes, he could play anywhere.

5) "We can expect big things from this team." I still think their ceiling is the Sweet 16.

[rjcarter8]

What is Hartwick College?

Hartwick College is one of the United States oldest and most prestigious liberal arts colleges. Hartwick is strategically located in Central New York in a town called Oneonta. Not only is Hartwick known for its strong academics, it is also know for its strong athletic tradition.

Who is Postup101?

Postup is an articulate, compassionate, and enthusiastic graduate of Hartwick College. Postup loves Empire 8 basketball, particularly rooting for Hartwick. When not working or watching the Hawks in action Postup enjoys skiing, fishing, golfing, posting on D3hoops.com and long walks on the beach.

How can a person in there own mind vilify, haze, harass Hartwick and their fans?

Here's a message to postup — No matter what you post on here ever again, your past dialogue means you will never — unlike Hartwick, which will turn things around the second time through the E8 — WIN.

[postup101]

Here's a message to postup — No matter what you post on here ever again, your past dialogue means you will never — unlike Hartwick, which will turn things around the second time through the E8 — WIN.

I am glad someone supports me in my desire to see Hartwick Win. Thank you, my brother rjcarter8, for your support and alliance.

[fisheralum91]

oh brother.
now ive heard everything!

[gobombers15]

Hartwick will win three conference games this year. They'll beat Naz and Elmira on their home floor. They will not sweep RIT.

[rjcarter8]

Here's a message to postup — No matter what you post on here ever again, your past dialogue means you will never — unlike Hartwick, which will turn things around the second time through the E8 — WIN.

I am glad someone supports me in my desire to see Hartwick Win. Thank you, my brother rjcarter8, for your support and alliance.

I really have no idea what to make of this? WIN. I didn't say I was rooting for Hartwick, not that I am against the Hawks, I simply felt the team would rebound over the second half of its league schedule.

Certainly not to the extent you think it's possible, but they will WIN more than one during their second swing through the league.

What I was saying in my post was that you won't and can't WIN any support after your inane comments.

[Caz Bombers]

What is Hartwick College?

Hartwick College is one of the United States oldest and most prestigious liberal arts colleges. Hartwick is strategically located in Central New York in a town called Oneonta. Not only is Hartwick known for its strong academics, it is also know for its strong athletic tradition.

Other than the wild overstatements about Hartwick being good at either sports or academics, my favorite part is the "strategically located" bit.  Makes it sound like they built a fort in the mid-18th Century to repel marauding Indians, or possibly the French.  Also, it's probably not good strategy to locate yourself in the middle of absolutely nowhere.  You did get one thing right, though, Hartwick can be found in Oneonta (but it's a city, not a town).

[fisheralum91]

I enjoyed the most prestigious part!

[postup101]

It is a very cold February Sunday night in Central New York and Mike Fitzgerald is just settling down to work on book report for the book that he read over the weekend, called Michael Jordan Goes Fishing. Mike is just out to apply himself and conquer the book report, when a loud noise came from his Dad's office. The loud noise is replaced with a computer voice stating that the entire Central New York was under a Blizzard Warning and could expect 20 inches of snow starting in the wee hours of the morning. Mike decides to stop working on his report, even though it is due the next morning. Instead, Mike decides to play with his newest Christmas present, the Wii. Mike is so sure he won't have the school the next morning that he neglects to finish his book report.

Mike's alarm goes off promptly at 7am and he is very excited about looking outside and seeing a ranging Blizzard in action. Much to Mike's horror when he opens up the curtains in his room he is blinded by the sun. Mike is very confused and turns on the TV to see if the start of the blizzard has been pushed back.  When he turned on the Weather Channel, his local forecast was on and said that Central New York was being spared the heavy snow and that it would be sunny all day.

While eating his breakfast all Mike was thinking was, what happened to the snow, how was he going to explain his tardiness of his book report. Mike had a 20 minute public school bus ride to further think of his strategy. When Mike walked into his homeroom he was greeted by a substitute teacher, who was collecting the book reports at the door. When asked where his book report was Mike responded "Sorry Ms. Woods I was too cocky last night and didn't expect to be busted this morning with no snow and a regular school day. Mike was then taken off the roster for the band trip to Salem, Virginia. To do this day Mike doesn't trust weather forecasters.

The moral of this story is cockiness only enhances the chances for busts. One  modern day example is predicting an undefeated season, a guaranteed victory, and other  similar events.

[dmcclintock]

At what point do you stop disparaging or shrugging off a person's accomplishments for the lack of support surrounding him? Dude averaged 37.5 pts/game this weekend on the road against two solid teams (Naz, RIT). He singlehandedly keeps them in a lot of games. As I said, I can see how the award could be given to Bryant/Herring, but to deem Cocozziello unworthy simply because he plays on a bad team isn't right. I understand that if some of you Fisher guys had your druthers, no players who didn't finish on an elite team (Read Fisher, Utica) would make any of these teams, but you have to accept a person's accomplishments for what they are.

Yeah your right GB 15, a player on a team that has one win and who's average loss against an E8 opponent in the opening round is 14 should def be considered POY...I mean he really keeps them in those games, almost to within single digit losses...Look Coco is a good player and he had a tremendous weekend.  I do not think that in all my years around the E8  I have witnessed someone avging 37.5 ppg in a weekend but still hes far from being considered POY...and if we are going on points why hasn't Canori's name been mentioned in POY...hes putting up the same amount of points and his team is doing terrible 2 so by your logic it should be coco and canori in the running...heck lets even throw in whoever the leading scorer from elmira's team in the mix so it can be a three way battle

[fisheralum91]

what the....
postup- you been drinking?

[superman57]

wow the words your on crack don't seem to hit the spot here....but the Wii is a very good gift....

[fisheralum91]

huh?
Super - help me out on this one.
I think post up has lost it

[postup101]

Tonight, ushers in the start of the 2nd half of the Empire 8 Basketball for many teams. This is the part of the season teams have been training for since the fall. There are 56 regular season games left for the Empire 8 teams. Some of the games will feature upsets, heartbreaks, sell out crowds, technicals, ejections, lead changes, and much more action.

All teams have seen each other at least once this season and scouted them as well.

Injuries have occurred

Suspensions have been handed out

Tears have been shed

However, Now all bets are off.

Anything can happen, as momentum is attained.

After all this is Empire 8 Basketball, a conference for basketball powerhouses.

[superman57]

wow....the crack house must love you