Empire 8

[gobombers15]

sorry to take you off on your high horse gobombers but you can have your baseball (who split with fisher this year) and SOCCER. But fisher has basetball and has taken control of football without a debt and it looks as if they will be dominating for a long time now, the only reason ithaca had it before was bc fisher was a brand new program, but its over now.  So be happy and keep bragging about your dominance in sports that no one cares about at d3 schools haha.

1) You've beat us twice at football. EVER.

2) You have beaten us ZERO times in Ithaca at football. EVER.

3) Your precious little RB's are gone now. We'll see what happens this year at Butterfield.

4) Taken control of football? How many outright E8 titles in football has Fisher won? For those of you scoring at home, ZERO.

5) We own you at baseball. Period. Little victories I guess when you can knock off Ithaca in one game of a doubleheader, huh?

I love when you post, FD. You really make me feel a lot smarter.

[superman57]

Dynasty....bombers is right...the only thing we have on ithaca is that we've made it farther in the football NCAA's then they have...and yes I know you guys have won a national championship  but that was a long time ago...  Fisher's prorgrams are starting to gain some momentum...we are not there yet but we are on our way

[bamm]

I'll ignore FisherDynasty's idiocy.

I wasn't trying to take anything away from Ithaca's past success.  They, undoubtedly, have an athletics program that is highly successful and well-regarded.

However, other schools in the area are quickly catching up.  I spoke of Fisher and RIT because I am most familiar with them, and the money they have invested.  The facilities are just part of a good athletics program, of course.  It helps when the school is affordable, when the staff is stable, recruits hard, and coaches well, and the school is attractive for academic purposes.  

Some of the schools in the E8 are close to, or on equal footing with Ithaca in those areas.  The results on the playing field are beginning to show that.

[DR. BELLY HOOPS]

Listen GOBOMBERS... If going into feb. undefeated in a college basketball conference isn't steamrolling...i dont know what is...I know it's tough to deal with the fact that Utica is the best team in the E8 but get used to it. They will be good for a while.You can shrug the Doctor of all you want but the you can't shrug off Utica; because they aren't goin anywhere big guy. -The Doctor

[gobombers15]

Listen GOBOMBERS... If going into feb. undefeated in a college basketball conference isn't steamrolling...i dont know what is...I know it's tough to deal with the fact that Utica is the best team in the E8 but get used to it. They will be good for a while.You can shrug the Doctor of all you want but the you can't shrug off Utica; because they aren't goin anywhere big guy. -The Doctor

No, I don't call a double-OT victory on your home floor or a two-point victory on a last second shot against the sixth best team in the conference "steamrolling." Call me crazy.

[gobombers15]

Doc, I think next year may be a little bit of a rebuilding year for Utica. Herring returns, but Bryant/Lighthall/Collier will all be gone. Not sure if Goodman (who looks like my 14 yr old brother in his pic) and McClendon will be able to shoulder more of the load. Munch is a solid player but will he be a viable second option?

Also, consider the glut of good young players on all of the other teams. It may be a little bit of a down year for Utica.

[FisherDynasty]

GoBombers,

Your ignorance is greater than my expectations.  that was a horrible come back.  Anyways, as I SAID, fisher's football program is brand new of course they dont has good of a past as ithaca's.  As of right now and the future outlook, I foresee them controlling the football rivalry as they do in basketball, thats all.  If you look at the past few years, fisher has came closer and closer and now finally in my eyes surpassed ithaca in football and will from now on, obviously there will be some years will ithaca wins too, it is a good program.  Anyways, who brings up and brags about other sports in the basketball boards, lets stick to bball.  also, althought Doc has been out of control on his posts, I think Utica will be good from hear on in, goodemote will bring in more guys and make his players better to always be in the top 4 as long as he is there.  Bryant/lighthall/collier, all good, bryant really good. are replaceable.  Herrig will be older, their younger big guys will be much more mature, and im sure they will bring in some other transfers or good fresh.  You don't have to bring in much to squeeze into the top 4 when besides the top 2 on any given year are well below mediocre.

[sjfcards]

They were stiffer than bill clinton on viagara.

That joke was just terrible enough to make me laugh out loud.  Nice work, maybe you should submit your writer's resume to Leno.

Did you go to the sweet 16 last year? How sweet is the amherst gym? I was impressed with the building.

I've been to the Amherst gym, and I don't remember being impressed.  My highschool gym (graduating class: 163) is more impressive, and probably seats more.  Several E8 teams have bigger, better gyms... they just don't have the attendance to make the environment fun.

Seriously. I hate being an alum of the most consistently successful athletic department in the conference. That sucks.

Because I've got 10 minutes to kill, I'll take a look at who's been dominating the men's athletics landscape in each sport since I've been following it (6 years or so).

Basketball:  Fisher
Football:  Ithaca and Fisher
Baseball:  Ithaca
Lacrosse:  Nazareth and RIT
Soccer:  Nazareth, RIT, and Alfred

The E8 doesn't exist as a hockey conference.  But as an alum, I'm not going to miss an opportunity to state that RIT's D1 team is winning their conference and on the verge of cracking the college hockey Top 20 in their 2nd season as a D1 program.

I like your picks in every sport except for Soccer. As an ex Fisher soccer player I have to disagree. RIT, is one of the better programs recently, Fisher has been much better than Alfred in the past 6 years. Naz? ok maybe...Ithaca is by far the class of the conference. better overall record every year than other teams, more #1 seeds in the E8 tourny than anybody, and easily the most talented team. The problem is that most E8 tourny's end up with a 3 seed playing a 4 seed in the finals and most of the time an average 4 seed winning. I thnk IC, before this year, was the #1 seed every year, and lost in the first round every year as well...l

Now that I got my soccer kick...How about the football argument? Fisher can not compete with Ithaca as far as history goes, IC is probably the most storied program in NY, maybe only second to Rowan in the east region. However, Fisher has taken the reins as the best program in the conference the past 3 years.

[sjfcards]

Listen GOBOMBERS... If going into feb. undefeated in a college basketball conference isn't steamrolling...i dont know what is...I know it's tough to deal with the fact that Utica is the best team in the E8 but get used to it. They will be good for a while.You can shrug the Doctor of all you want but the you can't shrug off Utica; because they aren't goin anywhere big guy. -The Doctor

No, I don't call a double-OT victory on your home floor or a two-point victory on a last second shot against the sixth best team in the conference "steamrolling." Call me crazy.

or struggling with a bad Hartwick team...and outside of the league, they are winning but barely beating teams that "great" teams should roll over Oswego by 1? a loss to Clarkson? They are the team to beat, but they are not as Solid as some UC fans would have you believe.

[AUPepBand]

I like your picks in every sport except for Soccer. As an ex Fisher soccer player I have to disagree. RIT, is one of the better programs recently, Fisher has been much better than Alfred in the past 6 years. Naz? ok maybe...Ithaca is by far the class of the conference. better overall record every year than other teams, more #1 seeds in the E8 tourny than anybody, and easily the most talented team. The problem is that most E8 tourny's end up with a 3 seed playing a 4 seed in the finals and most of the time an average 4 seed winning. I thnk IC, before this year, was the #1 seed every year, and lost in the first round every year as well...l

Now that I got my soccer kick...How about the football argument? Fisher can not compete with Ithaca as far as history goes, IC is probably the most storied program in NY, maybe only second to Rowan in the east region. However, Fisher has taken the reins as the best program in the conference the past 3 years.

Fisher is the best at everything just because they're Fisher. Makes no difference what results may be....Fisher is the best.

2006 St. John Fisher Men's Soccer Team (3-14) lost to AU (7-7-4) 2-1, but Fisher was definitely the better team.

However, Fisher has NEVER beaten Alfred in the pool. AU men's team finished its 2006-07 season UNDEFEATED in dual meets for the first time in 18 years, having beaten all Empire 8 teams.

Everyone into the pool....

[sjfcards]

Not the intention of my post pep...

Fisher had a very, very, very bad season in soccer this year, the post was about the past 6 or so years.

In the past six years, FIsher has finished higher in the standings than AU. With this year, and 2001 as an exception when Fisher finished 4th and AU finished tied for first. AU did win the E8 tourny in '03, but did it as a 4 seed while Fisher was 2 seed based on a tie breaker situation with IC. Before this year, in 2000 Fisher finished third in the league while AU finished 4th. 2002, Fisher tied for 3rd with AU,
04, Fisher finished 2nd AU 5th, (fisher 3-0 vs AU that season) 05, Fisher 2nd AU 5th. and last year, well whatever AU did was better than Fisher

I am not a "Fisher is the best athletic program" guys. I did not mean to infer that Fisher athletics walk hand in hand with god. I was just questioning the list of the best soccer programs. I would put it this way:
1) IC
2)RIT
3)Naz
4)Fisher
5)AU
6)Elmira
7)Utica...Hartwick has no E8 team, Division 1

[gobombers15]

GoBombers,

Your ignorance is greater than my expectations.  that was a horrible come back.  Anyways, as I SAID, fisher's football program is brand new of course they dont has good of a past as ithaca's.  As of right now and the future outlook, I foresee them controlling the football rivalry as they do in basketball, thats all.  If you look at the past few years, fisher has came closer and closer and now finally in my eyes surpassed ithaca in football and will from now on, obviously there will be some years will ithaca wins too, it is a good program.  Anyways, who brings up and brags about other sports in the basketball boards, lets stick to bball.  also, althought Doc has been out of control on his posts, I think Utica will be good from hear on in, goodemote will bring in more guys and make his players better to always be in the top 4 as long as he is there.  Bryant/lighthall/collier, all good, bryant really good. are replaceable.  Herrig will be older, their younger big guys will be much more mature, and im sure they will bring in some other transfers or good fresh.  You don't have to bring in much to squeeze into the top 4 when besides the top 2 on any given year are well below mediocre.

1) "That was a horrible comeback." Are we in 5th grade sitting at the lunch table? Who still uses the term "comeback?"

2) Fisher has not taken control of the conference in football, by any means. I think if you mentioned that over on the other board, you'd likely be met with a lot of skepticism even by your own fans.

3) As for coming closer and closer, I'll agree with that. Fisher has proven to be a worthy challenger for Ithaca. However, as has been said many times, let's just see if they can maintain this and make sure it's not a product of one of the better RB's we've seen in some time (Robinson). Lots of programs have risen up and challenged Ithaca but most, if not all, couldn't sustain it. Time will tell.

4) What makes you think Fisher has passed IC? Because you won a game by a score of 34-10? A game that Ithaca could have easily led 24-0 going into half had they cashed in on their opportunities that they usually convert? We had a first-year starter on the road and, predictably, he didn't have a great second half when he had to make plays. Sound familiar? Eh hem, 2005. Eh hem, Nich Suchnya. Eh hem, 4 picks. Eh hem, pick six to lose the game for Fisher. Yeah, that probably reminded you. It was a good win for Fisher this year, but  by no means have they passed Ithaca. Be happy to be in the same league as them.

5) "I see them controlling the rivalry like they do in basketball." That will never happen. I can assure you of that.

6) Fisher football will still have to prove that it can be more than an "every other year" team. This year you have to go to Springfield, who will be looking to avenge the playoff loss, and Ithaca. Prove it.

7) What am I ignorant of? Did you even mention that in your post? Or were you just throwing that word in for effect?

I will not be discussing football anymore on this board, unless prompted. If you want to carry this conversation over there, I'd be more than happy to. Let me know. But be prepared to back up your arguments a little more if you're going to go over there and say some of that stuff.

SJFC, you'd put RIT above Naz for soccer? Interesting.

[superman57]

gobombers most of your sutff is on except the amount of picks that sooch threw...the pick 6 was actually his first interception of the season

[gobombers15]

I was sure he threw a few in that game. Fisher turned the ball over like four times in that game.

[sjfcards]

GoBombers,

SJFC, you'd put RIT above Naz for soccer? Interesting.

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Ummm...yes...Considering RIT has never missed an E8 tournament, won the league two years ago, as well as consistently the 2nd best team in the league. Not to mention 3 straight conference titles before the three years before the e8 tourny existed.
Meanwhile, outside of this year Naz has never been a top 2 seed in the e8 tourny. Naz upset a far superior, by their own admission, team in Fisher in 03, to get to the tourny final, and before this year the one time they won the tourny they were a 4 seeed. This year they were quite good, however, look at the league records for the past 6 years...Ask someone who has been around the league for a few years.