Empire 8

[superman57]

McGee and Canori..are very different players, Canori has to carry an average naz team while McGee could be  a dangerous second option behind SOB

[tigerfan2]

Well - that is 4-0 so far.  Nothing to have me changing my mind.  We absolutely dominated a weak Nazareth team tonight.  They are not in our league at this point.
Looking forward to sweeping RIT tommorrow.  God this feels great!!!!!!!!
By the way I checked out the RIT boxscore and saw the Cocozziello scored 31 PTS.  he is still my player of the year!


Alfred over Elmira by 5
Fisher over Ithaca by 20
Hartwick over RIT by 5
Us over Naz by 30

Saturday,
Fisher over Elmira by 37
Alfred over Ithaca by 3
Hartwick over Nazareth by 13
Us over RIT by 15


That's the way I see it!  And well UM we are number 1!

Clear, it doesn't look like you were seeing things too well on Saturday, and picking Fisher over Elmira really isn't an accomplishment, especially considering you weren't even close on any of the other games.


Does anyone other than Clear who was at the UC/RIT game have a game report? I already know that Clear's report will be something like "RIT didn't win, UC beat themselves".

[superman57]

from what I heard on the game it was more of Utica shooting themselves and RIT playing well enough to win a close game

[tigerfan2]

I was just happy to see RIT finally had a decent game from the FT line, they were 14-17 I believe.

[superman57]

I think RIT is going to be a dangerous team in the E8's....and in my opinion we can already say that the tourny will most likely be in Utica, but I think the important thing here is fisher sharing the regular season championship...because that could be exactly what this team needs going into the post season

[gobombers15]

I think RIT is going to be a dangerous team in the E8's....and in my opinion we can already say that the tourny will most likely be in Utica, but I think the important thing here is fisher sharing the regular season championship...because that could be exactly what this team needs going into the post season

I think this is the first time where each of the four teams will have a legit shot at winning the tournament. The 3rd and 4th place teams have defeated Utica on their home floor and Ithaca was a 4OT game away from also splitting with Fisher. I think the Bombers are really hitting their stride right now, so I wouldn't discount them. When Leahy is hitting his shots, this team is very tough to beat.

I'm not saying each team has an equal shot at winning the tournament. Obviously, the odds are with the home team in a postseason game (regardless of what happens during the season). I'm just saying that, in the past, there were years where the 3rd or 4th seed didn't really have a shot to win the tourney. That's not true this year.

[Adam the Bull]

Well - that is 4-0 so far.  Nothing to have me changing my mind.  We absolutely dominated a weak Nazareth team tonight.  They are not in our league at this point.
Looking forward to sweeping RIT tommorrow.  God this feels great!!!!!!!!
By the way I checked out the RIT boxscore and saw the Cocozziello scored 31 PTS.  he is still my player of the year!


Alfred over Elmira by 5
Fisher over Ithaca by 20
Hartwick over RIT by 5
Us over Naz by 30

Saturday,
Fisher over Elmira by 37
Alfred over Ithaca by 3
Hartwick over Nazareth by 13
Us over RIT by 15


That's the way I see it!  And well UM we are number 1!

Clear, it doesn't look like you were seeing things too well on Saturday, and picking Fisher over Elmira really isn't an accomplishment, especially considering you weren't even close on any of the other games.


Does anyone other than Clear who was at the UC/RIT game have a game report? I already know that Clear's report will be something like "RIT didn't win, UC beat themselves".

I called the game and I have to say the Utica played as bad as I have seen them play all season. However, I do not want to take anything away from RIT. They played well and deserved the victory.

They controlled most of the game until the Pioneers went on a run mid second half that turned an 8-point RIT lead into a 5 point UC lead....and to be honest I tole my color guy off the air that the Pioneers had the game in the bag at that point.

Boy was I wrong, the Tigers played very well down the stretch and Tim Bacon who was a non-factor in the first meeting played very well (even made his free throws). Speaking of free throws...I believe RIT's Mark Carson has the worst form from the free throw line that I have ever seen...no exaggeration. Whitwood and Gethers also impressed.

I also believe all four teams will have a chance to win the tourney. I can't wait to call the UC/Fisher game Friday night. I am pumped.

[superman57]

I'm making my prediction now after seeing what Utica has done the past couple of weeks I don't think they win the tourny...and right now I think the E8 will be a two bid league, but you never know

[FisherDynasty]

I'm puttin my money on Fisher.

[superman57]

I'm not putting my money on fisher untill I see how they play this weekend...but I just think Utica has lost two league games and both of them have been close games at home...so they have had about 3 close games at home and have lost two

[clearconceit]

So I didn't go 8-0 oh well.  I'll try again this weekend. 
My money is on US US US US.
We will win on Friday and I will be sipping champaigne as someone OTHER than a Rochester school is officially THE BEST TEAM!

No excuses we got beat but there will be 1 team that get's into the dance not 2.
ANd it will be UTICA.
We will win on Friday
We will win next week in the tournament at where else....... UTICA baby.

See all of you then boys.

God it sure does feel good knowing that a non-Rochester school will win this thing.

[sjfcards]

So I didn't go 8-0 oh well.  I'll try again this weekend. 
My money is on US US US US.
We will win on Friday and I will be sipping champaigne as someone OTHER than a Rochester school is officially THE BEST TEAM!

No excuses we got beat but there will be 1 team that get's into the dance not 2.
ANd it will be UTICA.
We will win on Friday
We will win next week in the tournament at where else....... UTICA baby.

See all of you then boys.

God it sure does feel good knowing that a non-Rochester school will win this thing.

Just like you were going undefeated a few weeks ago...and just like there is no team on the same level as UC last friday...Better be careful talking about a place you have not won in how many years?

What do you base your one bid prediction on? the fact that Fisher and UC have a difference in the record of 1 loss. So if the unthinkable happens on friday and you lose to a good Fisher team, does that mean that UC is not getting in without an AQ?

Moving on...RIT has played well down the stretch twice against the top teams in the conference in the last 2 weeks. Whoever ends up playing RIT in the tourny better put them away early, because they have proven that they can hit free throws when they need them, and can beat teams in close games.

After this weekend I would say that with out a doubt...Any of the 4 teams can win the tourny. UC is probably the best team, Fisher is Fisher you can never count them out, RIT has beaten the two top teams in the league in two consecutive games, and after seeing what IC did last week against Fisher, and that they have beaten UC on UC's floor, I would say that this will be the most wide open tourny that we have seen.

[superman57]

Ok clear so since you say your going to take it all, Utica will now lose...you predicted an huge win over RIT and lost...you predicited a perfect season and went on to choke on a big one against Ithaca...and my guess is you will lose at the varsity gym...Because as everyone has admitted including your own play by play guy...playing at the Varsity gym is a whole new experiance...considering fisher has lost the 3 times in the last 55 games and two of the 3 to major rivals...good luck winning in a place you've NEVER won

[gobombers15]

A few things...

1) Adam, there's no way that the RIT kid's form is the worst you'll ever see. I suggest watching either Desmond Mason of the Hornets or former McQuaid star Ryan Pettinella of UVa. Mason has hitch in his motion that is reminiscent of Charles Barkley's golf swing. When my girlfriend and I went to a game a few weeks back, she even commented on what awful form he has. He converts about 65% of the time but it is painful to watch. As far as Pettinella goes, his shot is as ugly as you'll see; there's a reason he shoots 26% from the line! His elbow is way out and he does this kind of loopy motion before he releases it. Just terrible.

2) Clear, as they say in Anchorman, why don't you sit a couple of plays out? It seems like each time you espouse UC's greatness, they get beat at home. Might want to lay low for awhile.

3) Also, in my opinion and without the aid of the exact numbers, if Utica shares the league title and doesn't win the E8 Tourney, I don't think they go to the dance. Assuming they lose to Fisher and then lose in the finals of the E8 Tourney (presumably to Fisher, but not necessarily), that would give them a 20-6 record. The records right now of the teams they've lost to would be: Hamilton (16-5), Clarkson (13-10...which hurts even more considering they're 4-8 in conference play), Ithaca (12-10), RIT (13-10), Fisher (18-5), and whoever beats them in the E8 tourney. While none of those are "horrible" losses, that would make for a mediocre resume. Show me the marquee win on Utica's schedule, because I don't see one. I'd say the only "big" win was the 2OT game vs Fisher, but that will be moot if they lose 2 of 3 to the Cards, or maybe even split with them.

Also, you better hope teams like Hamilton and Brockport win their conference tournaments if Utica doesn't. Both Hamilton (scoreboard!) and Brockport (easily a better body of work including victories over Hamilton and SLU, as well as being hotter than a pistol right now) would get at-larges before Utica. Also, if UR finishes 3-0 or 2-1, I think their record (either 19-6 or 18-7), with victories against tough teams, would make for a stronger resume than Utica's.

Keep in mind that Utica continues to lose votes each week. After their loss to RIT, I would not be a bit surprised if Utica is receiving no votes this week. Also, I have to think that given Hamilton and Brockport's hot play of late, they will also be passing the Pioneers in the eyes of voters (which should have happened earlier). Bottom line, I don't think it safe for the Pioneers to think that it can share the league title with Fisher, host the E8 Tourney and expect to get a bid if they don't win the conference tournament. The fact that they made the Sweet 16 will work for them, but only to a certain extent. Voters will only ignore the losses to mediocre teams (IC, RIT) for so long.

Of course, if they exorcise their demons and pull off the minor upset (yeah, I said it, it would be a minor upset) and beat Fisher in that bandbox of a gym, I think UC has a good shot at an at-large bid, provided they make the finals of the E8 Tourney.

[superman57]

GB15 I agree with you...the only thing I'm curious about is if fisher beats utica and then loses in the tourny finals what do you do with them...they will then have at least one loss to utica, a loss to an ok RIT team, a Lose to bad Alfred team, and loses to Brockport and UofR, but they also own victories over Brockport and UofR...each of which could be seen as big wins for fisher...but in the end I just don't think fisher can get to the tourny with out wining the E8 tourny