Empire 8

bamm · February 11, 2007, 11:16:28 PM

Quote from: Adam the Bull on February 11, 2007, 08:04:53 PM
Speaking of free throws...I believe RIT's Mark Carson has the worst form from the free throw line that I have ever seen...no exaggeration. Whitwood and Gethers also impressed.

What happens when Mark Carson goes to the free throw line has been one of the more enjoyable moments of a crazy RIT season (for me, anyway). Generally, the rim plays no part in the action, while the backboard gets a good hard hit and some rebounder is lucky their nose doesn't get broken.

The strange this is, he actually shows some decent agility around the rim during the normal course of play. He's not just a "big white stiff" who can't put the ball in the hoop. I hope he works on it and gets some confidence.

Someone made reference to RIT performing well in the clutch against both Fisher and Utica, which they did. But they also blew two games to Hartwick down the stretch. You just never have any idea what can happen with this team.

When Whitwood, Gethers, and Bacon are all playing well they can hang with Fisher and Utica. When Zeinfeld puts together a decent scoring night they beat them. Colin Roy is consistent running the show.

FisherDynasty, Clear -- it's fun to be a superfan and all, but it's hard for any of us to take anything you say seriously with your complete lack of any objectivity.

The E8 tourney has traditionally had a good deal of drama, even when Fisher was heavily favored. I agree with what looks like the general consensus -- nothing that happens this season will surprise me.

superman57 · February 11, 2007, 11:50:33 PM

QuoteFisherDynasty, Clear -- it's fun to be a superfan and all, but it's hard for any of us to take anything you say seriously with your complete lack of any objectivity.

good point...there is something to be said about modesty every once in a while

fisheralum91 · February 12, 2007, 08:03:34 AM

looks like a big wknd!
Go alma mater!

DR. BELLY HOOPS · February 12, 2007, 08:42:54 AM

Quote from: Superman57 on February 11, 2007, 08:32:11 PM
I'm making my prediction now after seeing what Utica has done the past couple of weeks I don't think they win the tourny...and right now I think the E8 will be a two bid league, but you never know

well if Utica doesnt win the tourney of course its a two bid league but thats not gonna happen...the fisher game will be a doozey on friday but I think the Pioneers will be ready for blood after a tough loss the other day...I think they win the tourney as well but if they dont it wont be the worst thing in the world...teams usually play better after going to the big dance off a lose in their confrence tourney...did anyone see that special they did on Dennis Munch up in the Utica news?...What a player he is....Horrible haircut but a good story...Adam the Bull I will be listening on friday night and I will see you on the 23rd big guy.... -The Doctor

fisheralum91 · February 12, 2007, 09:00:15 AM

Doc,
I missed that but did see the 1 hr special on the UC hockey team and Coach Heenan blow multiple gaskets!!!

superman57 · February 12, 2007, 09:26:26 AM

Quote from: DR. BELLY HOOPS on February 12, 2007, 08:42:54 AM
Quote from: Superman57 on February 11, 2007, 08:32:11 PM
I'm making my prediction now after seeing what Utica has done the past couple of weeks I don't think they win the tourny...and right now I think the E8 will be a two bid league, but you never know
well if Utica doesnt win the tourney of course its a two bid league but thats not gonna happen...the fisher game will be a doozey on friday but I think the Pioneers will be ready for blood after a tough loss the other day...I think they win the tourney as well but if they dont it wont be the worst thing in the world...teams usually play better after going to the big dance off a lose in their confrence tourney...did anyone see that special they did on Dennis Munch up in the Utica news?...What a player he is....Horrible haircut but a good story...Adam the Bull I will be listening on friday night and I will see you on the 23rd big guy.... -The Doctor

no if Utica loses to Fisher on friday which I do think they will, and they lose in the tourny, they are not going to the NCAA's sorry not going to happen

JQV · February 12, 2007, 10:29:09 AM

I don't know what the rest of the East is looking like but for some reason the E8 is feeling more and more like a one bid league.

fisheralum91 · February 12, 2007, 10:46:12 AM

Mr. Chair....Scary but i think you are right on that one.

FisherDynasty · February 12, 2007, 11:50:51 AM

If Fisher beats Utica this week, then loses in the E8 champ. they will be in mark my words. they will have over 20 wins and the losses they have are to good teams. 2 of which they have beat once. Fisher has wins over much better teams then Utica.

gobombers15 · February 12, 2007, 11:57:33 AM

Quote from: FisherDynasty on February 12, 2007, 11:50:51 AM
If Fisher beats Utica this week, then loses in the E8 champ. they will be in mark my words. they will have over 20 wins and the losses they have are to good teams. 2 of which they have beat once. Fisher has wins over much better teams then Utica.

Translation: They will get in based on their reputation.

*I'm not sure, that Alfred loss is a HUGE black eye. The way I see it, there will be 4 or 5 bids for the SUNYAC/LL/E8. If Brockport doesn't win their tourney, I think they're a lock for an at-large so long as they don't slip up in the last week. If Hamilton also loses their conference tourney, I think if it comes down to one at-large bid remaining, here's how I think it goes:

Fisher vs Hamilton- Fisher would get the bid. Not sure why I think that. I think the UR and 'Port wins help and Fisher has the name recognition at this point.

Utica vs Hamilton- I think you have to give it to Hamilton. They won the game on the floor. Then again, Utica and Oswego had the same exact resumes last year and Oswego even ripped Utica during the season and the committee still gave it to Utica. Who knows. This is all irrelevant if Utica wins at Fisher on Friday night; if they do that, they're a lock.

bamm · February 12, 2007, 01:11:39 PM

This is national QOWI ranking through Saturday's game.

Rank Points In-region Team Region Win% Overall
14 10.450 1 Rochester 0.800 (16-4) 16-5
18 10.364 2 St. Lawrence 0.773 (17-5) 18-5
24 10.286 3 Brockport State 0.810 (17-4) 18-4
32 10.045 4 St. John Fisher 0.773 (17-5) 18-5
34 10.000 5 Hamilton 0.722 (13-5) 16-5
45 9.857 6 Utica 0.810 (17-4) 18-4
46 9.850 7 New York University 0.750 (15-5) 16-5

fisheralum91 · February 12, 2007, 01:33:43 PM

one more loss for either UC or Fisher looks like the last nail....

AUPepBand · February 12, 2007, 01:43:16 PM

Quote from: gobombers15 on February 12, 2007, 11:57:33 AM
*I'm not sure, that Alfred loss is a HUGE black eye.

Yeah, but you should see what the other guy looks like!

AUPepBand · February 12, 2007, 01:44:48 PM

Alfred 51, Fisher 50
Fisher 81, Alfred 41

Tough splitting with a team that you've outscored by 39 points overall!

JQV · February 12, 2007, 01:55:15 PM

Quote from: bamm on February 12, 2007, 01:11:39 PM
This is national QOWI ranking through Saturday's game.

Rank Points In-region Team Region Win% Overall
14 10.450 1 Rochester 0.800 (16-4) 16-5
18 10.364 2 St. Lawrence 0.773 (17-5) 18-5
24 10.286 3 Brockport State 0.810 (17-4) 18-4
32 10.045 4 St. John Fisher 0.773 (17-5) 18-5
34 10.000 5 Hamilton 0.722 (13-5) 16-5
45 9.857 6 Utica 0.810 (17-4) 18-4
46 9.850 7 New York University 0.750 (15-5) 16-5

This makes it look more like the E8 could, in fact, be a two-bid league. Something totally unquantifiable tells me that the parity makes the league look bad, not good. Pat, you out there? Any thoughts on the number of E8 bids?