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FisherDynasty

#3315
I dont know PG04, Although i dont see the bracket as very strong, I think the NE bracket above is weaker if not equal. The only real contender out of the top bracket is Amherst and probably the only real contender out of the bottom bracket is Wooster. The top teams in each bracket are:

Strong teams noted
1. Amherst
6. Salem State
12. Keene State
10. WPI
11. Rhode Island College
5. Trinity

versus (strong teams noted)
2. Wooster
7. Fisher
4. Bport
8. Lake Erie
3. UofR
13. St. Lawrence

I  put numbers in my opinion ranking the best teams noted above.

pg04

Quote from: Superman57 on February 26, 2007, 04:53:59 PM
I think they gave Lake Erie the bye because there gym holds about 750 people so trying to fit 4 teams in there would be impossible


that's very possible... I guess we'll know when/if Wooster and Lake Erie get to the Sweet 16, Wooster Most definitely should be hosting

superman57

well I think that no matter what lake erie will not be hosting because there gym can't hold enough...from what I heard it makes my little sisters elementary gym with no seating look large
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

pg04

Quote from: FisherDynasty on February 26, 2007, 04:55:24 PM
I dont know PG04, Although i dont see the bracket as very strong, I think the NE bracket above is weaker if not equal. The only real contender out of the top bracket is Amherst and probably the only real contender out of the bottom bracket is Wooster. The top teams in each bracket are:

Strong teams noted
1. Amherst
6. Salem State
12. Keene State
10. WPI
11. Rhode Island College
5. Trinity

versus (strong teams noted)
2. Wooster
7. Fisher
4. Bport
8. Lake Erie
3. UofR
13. St. Lawrence

I  put numbers in my opinion ranking the best teams noted above.

I thank that's skewed a little bit... I think Rampapo is a pretty strong team.  I would also Move Rhode Island College and Trinity higher.  Salem State got a bye so they must be pretty good too I guess what  I would say is that the Amherst Bracket is more top heavy than the Lake Erie one.   I guess it's all irrelevant as this is what we have, and it does give a NY team almost a guarantee into the elite 8! 

pg04

Quote from: Superman57 on February 26, 2007, 05:05:31 PM
well I think that no matter what lake erie will not be hosting because there gym can't hold enough...from what I heard it makes my little sisters elementary gym with no seating look large

That's sad...Although they only have about 600 undergrads that go there. 

backboard

Just curious if anyone could give a break down of Fisher for those who aren't aware of the school.  Simply trying to inquire what Wentworth will be up against.

superman57

Fisher poses a very strong inside outside combination...Beigel and McSweeny on the inside are very tough and when Mueller and Baltz are hitting there 3's fisher is a very tough team to beat
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

gobombers15

Quote from: FisherDynasty on February 26, 2007, 04:29:41 PM
Predictions for this wkend:
1st Round:

Fisher +11

UofR +7

St. Lawrence +4

Bport +2

Wooster  +7

Centre + 4

John Carrol +6

2nd round:

Fisher vsUofR  - Fisher +1

Bport Vs St. Lawrence - Bport +2

Wooster vs Centre - Wooster+5

lake Erie vs John Carrol - Lake Eirre +4

This may be a stupid question, and I probably know the answer, but, to you, is Fisher an underdog against anybody EVER, let alone on their home floor? You do recall the most recent matchup in the Fisher/UR saga, no? If not, it was a 29-point rout. I'm really interested to know who Fisher would be an underdog against in their home gym. Amherst? The San Antonio Spurs? God?
A 2004 graduate of the "almighty legendary" Ithaca College. Goooooo Bombers.

keystonelight

fisher is a hard team to prepare for. as you said when mueller and baltz are hitting there is no stopping that and mcsweeny, beigel and smalt are a force under the hoop. What you have to watch out for is their bench if THE WORST COACH IN AMERICA rob kornaker or however you spell his name ever puts anyone from it in the game. McKeever and Fenyn play lockdown defense and both can create off the dribble. Also Bearden comes in and brings a whole new level of intensity with him and he has a stroke.

as far as are they ever underdogs? yes. U of R and Amherst are top notch teams  and for fisher to beat either of them they will have to be firing on all cylinders.


p.s. rob kornaker is the worst coach in the league which is why U of R routed fisher the way they did... coaching...

bamm

Quote from: keystonelight on February 27, 2007, 02:03:36 AM
fisher is a hard team to prepare for. as you said when mueller and baltz are hitting there is no stopping that and mcsweeny, beigel and smalt are a force under the hoop. What you have to watch out for is their bench if THE WORST COACH IN AMERICA rob kornaker or however you spell his name ever puts anyone from it in the game. McKeever and Fenyn play lockdown defense and both can create off the dribble. Also Bearden comes in and brings a whole new level of intensity with him and he has a stroke.

as far as are they ever underdogs? yes. U of R and Amherst are top notch teams  and for fisher to beat either of them they will have to be firing on all cylinders.

p.s. rob kornaker is the worst coach in the league which is why U of R routed fisher the way they did... coaching...


You forgot to mention how terrible a job he's done losing 3 senior starters including the conference player of the year and still getting his team to win the conference championship.  That really is the icing on his "terrible" coaching cake.


Quote from: backboard on February 26, 2007, 08:57:52 PM
Just curious if anyone could give a break down of Fisher for those who aren't aware of the school.  Simply trying to inquire what Wentworth will be up against.

The key to beating Fisher is defensive pressure on their perimeter players.  If you have the athletes and a bench it's nice to press.  They have a couple of young guards who are prone to turning the ball over.  Additionally, if you can stay up on their guards and limit their open looks you will be in good shape.

fisheralum91

#3325
worst coach?
wow- sounds like sour grapes to me.
did he not recruit you?

you are right with his winning percentage alone- he really is the worst coach!   :P

FisherDynasty

go bombers, Idk why you praise UofR so much, yes they did murder fisher last time out.  EVERYGAME is a game, uofr came out hitting all there shots they were on fire, game was over from the start.  If there is a different start to that game, the game would have been much different, give me a break.  Is fisher ever an underdog at home? of course if they are playing amherst or Wooster, Uof R ah id put it at even.  In the past few seasons id say Fisher would not be an underdog at home to anyone, this year, they rely a little too much on muellers hot shooting and too little from their bench.  This is going to haunt them when they play a good team like UofR, Amherst, or athletic teams such as bport who will pressure Fishers guards.

Bamm I agree, If i was playing Fisher I would pressure their guards like crazy and deny the wings.

Backcourt, what do us fisher fans need to know about wentworth?

GPT

Let me get this right

Kornaker has been the Head Coach for 6 years
His record for those 6 years is 132 wins and 35 loses (best winning % in all DIII)
Take away his first season in which he finished 500, I believe he was 13 wins and 13 loses
he has been to the NCAA's the last five years
He's won or shared coach of the year award the last 5 years
He won east region coach of the year 3 years ago
He go's 22 and 5 after losing 4 starters.

Man he really is a Bad coach,If you like to WIN!!

I would like somebody to tell me somebody who has done a better job in there first 6 years on the job in DIII or any Level

P.S. There is only one Coach in the area that you could say is Better and that Would be Coach Neer

So stop Bad mouthing Coach Kornaker because he doesn't play your friends


superman57

I mean what's that saying about Kornakers recruiting...he has guys that are good enough to start at most DIII schools playing minutes of the bench
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

FisherDynasty

agreed superman.

2 years ago when fisher was older the 2nd team could have won the league.

charlie zahn PF
Justin Beigel PF
Ramie AumanSF
Pete GilletSG
Dan muellerPG

Hell even the 3rd squad would have finished in the top 3-4

Corie hepburn PF
Isiah smalt PF
adrian fenyn SF
mark bearden SG
tim coyne/mckeaver/huetter PG

Recruiting is kornackers #1 strength and probably the most important strength you can have in D3. he just has to work on his weakness, making more cuts.