Empire 8

[gobombers15]

Let me get this right

Kornaker has been the Head Coach for 6 years
His record for those 6 years is 132 wins and 35 loses (best winning % in all DIII)
Take away his first season in which he finished 500, I believe he was 13 wins and 13 loses
he has been to the NCAA's the last five years
He's won or shared coach of the year award the last 5 years
He won east region coach of the year 3 years ago
He go's 22 and 5 after losing 4 starters.

Man he really is a Bad coach,If you like to WIN!!

I would like somebody to tell me somebody who has done a better job in there first 6 years on the job in DIII or any Level

P.S. There is only one Coach in the area that you could say is Better and that Would be Coach Neer

So stop Bad mouthing Coach Kornaker because he doesn't play your friends

I'm not saying he's better, but Whitmore at B'port is in the same league as Kornaker. The SUNYAC will always have more teams to rise up in various years (Potsdam two years ago, Cortland last year) but Brockport always seems to be right there. You also have to consider that 'Port loses one player each year for various reasons (Zenkel, Rother) yet they are always a quality squad. I think if you tossed Fisher into the SUNYAC and measured its success over a greater span of time, it would probably be similar to Brockport's. Whitmore is on the level with Kornaker.

[sjfcards]

Let me get this right

Kornaker has been the Head Coach for 6 years
His record for those 6 years is 132 wins and 35 loses (best winning % in all DIII)
Take away his first season in which he finished 500, I believe he was 13 wins and 13 loses
he has been to the NCAA's the last five years
He's won or shared coach of the year award the last 5 years
He won east region coach of the year 3 years ago
He go's 22 and 5 after losing 4 starters.

Man he really is a Bad coach,If you like to WIN!!

I would like somebody to tell me somebody who has done a better job in there first 6 years on the job in DIII or any Level

P.S. There is only one Coach in the area that you could say is Better and that Would be Coach Neer

So stop Bad mouthing Coach Kornaker because he doesn't play your friends

Don't forget about that National Coach of the year award he won while going 27-0 during the regular season, and going farther than any Fisher team in history the last two seasons. What a awful coach.

Gobombers...I agree about the b-port coach...I think there are some real good coaches in upstate NY. I am not saying Kornaker is by far the best. I think he is one of the best, and that he is not "The worst coach in America"
As far as being an underdog at home...well when they play a team like Amherst or anyother top team in the country of course they are an underdog. Winning virturally every game at home the last 4 years does inspire some confidence. They have also beat U of R this year at home. U of R will be a real tough out for Fisher, but at home Fisher fans believe they can beat them.

[gobombers15]

I agree that he isn't one of the worst; I wasn't the one who said he was. I know he's an excellent recruiter and a serviceable in-game coach.

[John McGraw]

agreed superman.

2 years ago when fisher was older the 2nd team could have won the league.

charlie zahn PF
Justin Beigel PF
Ramie AumanSF
Pete GilletSG
Dan muellerPG

Hell even the 3rd squad would have finished in the top 3-4

Corie hepburn PF
Isiah smalt PF
adrian fenyn SF
mark bearden SG
tim coyne/mckeaver/huetter PG

Recruiting is kornackers #1 strength and probably the most important strength you can have in D3. he just has to work on his weakness, making more cuts.

Pete Gillet....that name rings a bell. Isn't he the one that came on here and talked smack?

[gobombers15]

agreed superman.

2 years ago when fisher was older the 2nd team could have won the league.

charlie zahn PF
Justin Beigel PF
Ramie AumanSF
Pete GilletSG
Dan muellerPG

Hell even the 3rd squad would have finished in the top 3-4

Corie hepburn PF
Isiah smalt PF
adrian fenyn SF
mark bearden SG
tim coyne/mckeaver/huetter PG

Recruiting is kornackers #1 strength and probably the most important strength you can have in D3. he just has to work on his weakness, making more cuts.

Pete Gillet....that name rings a bell. Isn't he the one that came on here and talked smack?

Correct. Fisher is usually good for one player or parent per season to come on these boards. This year's men's basketball team hasn't had anyone come on here...yet.

[John McGraw]

agreed superman.

2 years ago when fisher was older the 2nd team could have won the league.

charlie zahn PF
Justin Beigel PF
Ramie AumanSF
Pete GilletSG
Dan muellerPG

Hell even the 3rd squad would have finished in the top 3-4

Corie hepburn PF
Isiah smalt PF
adrian fenyn SF
mark bearden SG
tim coyne/mckeaver/huetter PG

Recruiting is kornackers #1 strength and probably the most important strength you can have in D3. he just has to work on his weakness, making more cuts.

Pete Gillet....that name rings a bell. Isn't he the one that came on here and talked smack?

Correct. Fisher is usually good for one player or parent per season to come on these boards. This year's men's basketball team hasn't had anyone come on here...yet.

Still lots of time left for that. Though, if the Cards lay an egg against Rochester, all their posters will migrate over to the baseball board and start pronouncing that Fisher is going to take the league title.

[FisherDynasty]

I'm sure there are some players from more teams than just Fisher they just aren't dumb enough to get caught, haha.

[ur2004]

go bombers, Idk why you praise UofR so much, yes they did murder fisher last time out. 

Hmm, probably because U of R, as you noted, annihilated SJF 82-53 in their last matchup, on a neutral floor.  Plus, while Mike Neer may not be winning coach of the year awards, instead he's won a national championship and taken U of R to the NCAA Final Four in two of the last six years.

In those last six years, SJF had 5 wins in the NCAAs (Hamilton, Lebanon Valley, Norwich, and Utica x2).  None of those are impressive in the least.

In the same span, UR has had 9 wins in the NCAAs, beating teams including Williams, at Amherst, Calvin, and, yes, SJF.  They also beat up on Babson, Potsdam (right after that team crushed the famously overhyped 28-1 SJF squad), Brockport, Union, and Western Connecticut.

Of course, maybe SJF will actually show up in the tournament this year.  Maybe they'll beat UR.  But until then, it's silly to ask why UR gets more praise than SJF.  They've earned it on the court.

[FisherDynasty]

Ur2004, I wasnt agruing why UofR gets more praise then Fisher Nationally, they do and should.  I was just stating, in a year where each team beat each other, and Fisher is at home which is a huge advantage, Fisher has a descent shot to win.  This years UofR team is still a year away from making a run at the title.  And yes, I think Coach Neer is a very good coach and has out coached kornacker many times in the past.  However the past few seasons, the two teams have been fairly equal, usually one team winning on their home floor except for last season when Fisher handled UofR on their home floor.  I dont know why your bringing up past recoreds, I didnt bring up Fishers previously better squads and UofR does not have gabe perez or Seth hauben who carried UofR to the championship.  Theres a huge difference between this years team and the team of the past.  I'm not saying that fisher can make a run at the title either, I think UofR is a better team, just Fisher being at home may come out on top slightly. We will see.

[JQV]

go bombers, Idk why you praise UofR so much, yes they did murder fisher last time out. 

Hmm, probably because U of R, as you noted, annihilated SJF 82-53 in their last matchup, on a neutral floor.  Plus, while Mike Neer may not be winning coach of the year awards, instead he's won a national championship and taken U of R to the NCAA Final Four in two of the last six years.

In those last six years, SJF had 5 wins in the NCAAs (Hamilton, Lebanon Valley, Norwich, and Utica x2).  None of those are impressive in the least.

In the same span, UR has had 9 wins in the NCAAs, beating teams including Williams, at Amherst, Calvin, and, yes, SJF.  They also beat up on Babson, Potsdam (right after that team crushed the famously overhyped 28-1 SJF squad), Brockport, Union, and Western Connecticut.

Of course, maybe SJF will actually show up in the tournament this year.  Maybe they'll beat UR.  But until then, it's silly to ask why UR gets more praise than SJF.  They've earned it on the court.

UR you are barking up the wrong tree.  No matter how consistently you beat Fisher at anything, their fans always think they are the favorite.  Its science.

[Cadillac]

I don't see where all the criticism of Fisher's head coach is coming from.

I think Justin Beigel has done a pretty impressive job going 22-5 in his first year.  You have to remember, he had pretty big shoes to fill.  Sean O'Brien had a great win percentage in his 3 years, and an undefeated regular season to boot.

Who's this Kornaker everyone's talking about?

[JQV]

FA91, if you're out there, this goes back to a point I made during football season about a fan base that isn't use to success.  Look what happens...

[GPT]

I don't see where all the criticism of Fisher's head coach is coming from.

I think Justin Beigel has done a pretty impressive job going 22-5 in his first year.  You have to remember, he had pretty big shoes to fill.  Sean O'Brien had a great win percentage in his 3 years, and an undefeated regular season to boot.

Who's this Kornaker everyone's talking about?

Are you kidding me?

[fisheralum91]

Mr. Chair-
Im here and i hear ya.

Just enjoy the games boys!

[superman57]

I think there are many FIsher fans who were not happy to see UofR as a potential second round opponent