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fisheralum91

including me.
but the matchup is nevertheless an intriguing one!

JQV

FA91 and Super:

As the only two apparently rational Fisher fans (seeing as how Tags, Booby and Upstate appear to be one sporters) what do you think of the Kornaker talk?  I mean the guy's record seems to speak for itself to me.

fisheralum91

It's all hooey.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.
The mans record speaks for itself.

FisherDynasty

How am I not rationale?

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Chairman JoseQViper on February 27, 2007, 03:32:32 PM
FA91 and Super:

As the only two apparently rational Fisher fans (seeing as how Tags, Booby and Upstate appear to be one sporters) what do you think of the Kornaker talk?  I mean the guy's record seems to speak for itself to me.

Chairman, I am a lurker on the B-Ball boards and I can honestly say the bashing is uncalled for.

fisheralum91

Upstate the lurker- how's it goin?

keystonelight

I'll agree winning is important and that kornakers record speaks for itself. But thats all it does it lets you know hes had solid basketball teams. However by no means is his record a testiment to his coaching. Coaching involves management of people, an understanding of the game and class. Tell me where the former has been this season and the latter against utica where kornaker took a very childish and confrontational step at a referee after just having been in a shouting match with him.

Next time you're at a game count how many times he asks his assistants what to do, always looking bewildered, hows that fisher golf team doing since he left?

when the team isn't playing well coaching is supposed to kick in... tell me where that was this season in the losses to alfred(10-14), UofR, RIT(14-10) and Amherst last season where he waited til his team was down 14-2 to use his first timeout.

so please let me know why you're defending him other than his record because it looked like he walked into a pretty cushy job to me.

keystonelight

As far as for the fisher team i wish them the best of luck this weekend. I'd love for nothing more than to see the fisher team who took U of R in ot and to make a trip to Massachusetts.   

gobombers15

I've always been a believer in the quote that "it's not the X's and O's, it's the Jimmy's and the Joe's," implying that it's the players who make coaches look good. That's true to a large extent. However, coaches can be excellent recruiters and bring in the type of players that will make he or she look successful. Before last year, everyone considered Billy Donovan to be only a good recruiter; well, that paid off pretty handsomely last year.

I agree that Kornaker walked into a great situation at Fisher. I also agree that nobody is ever going to mistake him for the best in-game coach around, either. However, if he keeps bringing in top-flight talent, you can't knock his abilities because recruiting is such a huge part of coaching.
A 2004 graduate of the "almighty legendary" Ithaca College. Goooooo Bombers.

JQV

Quote from: keystonelight on February 27, 2007, 05:31:24 PM
I'll agree winning is important and that kornakers record speaks for itself. But thats all it does it lets you know hes had solid basketball teams. However by no means is his record a testiment to his coaching. Coaching involves management of people, an understanding of the game and class. Tell me where the former has been this season and the latter against utica where kornaker took a very childish and confrontational step at a referee after just having been in a shouting match with him.

Next time you're at a game count how many times he asks his assistants what to do, always looking bewildered, hows that fisher golf team doing since he left?

when the team isn't playing well coaching is supposed to kick in... tell me where that was this season in the losses to alfred(10-14), UofR, RIT(14-10) and Amherst last season where he waited til his team was down 14-2 to use his first timeout.

so please let me know why you're defending him other than his record because it looked like he walked into a pretty cushy job to me.

Sounds to me like someone is not happy with the way his friend from Campbell-Savona high school, Freshman G Matt Newman, is being treated by the head coach at Fisher...

Cadillac

Quote from: Chairman JoseQViper on February 27, 2007, 05:56:45 PM
Sounds to me like someone is not happy with the way his friend from Campbell-Savona high school, Freshman G Matt Newman, is being treated by the head coach at Fisher...

Newman's doing great.

Where do you get that from?

JQV

Quote from: Cadillac on February 27, 2007, 06:05:01 PM
Quote from: Chairman JoseQViper on February 27, 2007, 05:56:45 PM
Sounds to me like someone is not happy with the way his friend from Campbell-Savona high school, Freshman G Matt Newman, is being treated by the head coach at Fisher...

Newman's doing great.

Where do you get that from?

Just a hunch based on that poster's background.  No one is anonymous on these boards.

AUPepBand

Quote from: keystonelight on February 27, 2007, 05:31:24 PM
I'll agree winning is important and that kornakers record speaks for itself. But thats all it does it lets you know hes had solid basketball teams. However by no means is his record a testiment to his coaching. Coaching involves management of people, an understanding of the game and class. Tell me where the former has been this season and the latter against utica where kornaker took a very childish and confrontational step at a referee after just having been in a shouting match with him.

Next time you're at a game count how many times he asks his assistants what to do, always looking bewildered, hows that fisher golf team doing since he left?

when the team isn't playing well coaching is supposed to kick in... tell me where that was this season in the losses to alfred(10-14), UofR, RIT(14-10) and Amherst last season where he waited til his team was down 14-2 to use his first timeout.

so please let me know why you're defending him other than his record because it looked like he walked into a pretty cushy job to me.

Yeah, keystone, I'm with you.....I say send Kornaker back to Alfred from whence he came. Throw the bum out.  ;)
On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

superman57

When Kornaker has a bad season I'll be the first to call him out on it...everyone goes back to the UofR bashing...and in my mind that was a different team...Fisher is playing with a lot of confidence right now...and that comes from kornaker
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

GPT

For your information the ref at the utica game went at kornaker. the ref missed the player coming off the bench after the hard foul on bryant Which is automatic technal the ref wase doing the bumping and cursing not the coach.

Keystone I guess you have a problem with Coach Kornaker. I know him Quite Well and I know he would do anything for his players. I suggest you get to know the man before you start critizing.All he does is win and if you have a problem with that I suggest you seek Help

As for asking asst. coaches for help and input isn't that why they are there