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[blindwatchmaker]

Had to go digging a bit- is SJF's gym 1200 capacity?  How might that impact hosting vs JCU at 2448 and Wooster at 3400? 

[ksc218]

i think fishers gym is between 1000-1200 closer to 1000. brockport has 2000 and john carroll has 2448.

according to google maps

brockport is 243 miles from john carroll and 306 from wooster.
fisher is 254 from john carroll and 320 from wooster.

essentially fisher and brockport are the same distance with brockport having a slightly bigger gym and wooster seems to be out of contention of hosting even with there 3400 seating.

[blindwatchmaker]

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So would you give the nod to Brockport or JCU then?

[bjgiants6]

Well after watching Fisher Friday and Saturday night, they shot the ball amazingly. If they played like this weekend, they will make it to the Final Four. Sectional sites come out tomorrow, but I'm guessing it will be at Wooster. I hope Fisher can keep up their hot shooting despite not playing at home. Now, with Fisher's student's still on spring break, will their be some busses that will drive to Ohio? I'm not a Fisher student and I was told last time that Fisher students come first. Everybody, be prepared, it will be at Wooster next Friday night. If it isn't I would be shocked!

[ksc218]

i really dont know i would eliminate fisher because its definitely longer than 300 miles (which i beleive is the driving cut off point but i forget). I looked up the campus street addresses and brockport is exactly 300 miles from wooster and fisher is 259 miles to john carroll. technically if you rank the seeds dI style john carroll is a higher seed than brockport so maybe they get the edge?

[bjgiants6]

You have two Ohio teams and two NY  teams and Wooster has the better record of the three other teams. I still think it will be at Wooster.

[blindwatchmaker]

Check out the post from David C. over in the NCAC page.  He gives a good run of the  hosting criteria.

Re: NCAC
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Quote from: NCAA Handbook, page 7
Site Selection
The Championships Committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:
1. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
2. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility and transportation costs);
3. Seeding; and
4. Attendance history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.
In addition, the men's basketball committee requires each host to videotape all contests at its site, with the intent to make available to each team a copy of the contest in which it participated. The committee also prefers sites that will not host conflicting events during the championship practice and competition. Sites will also be evaluated as to the availability of appropriate practice times for all competing teams. To host first-round, second-round or sectional contests, a regulation court as defined in 2007 NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Rules and Interpretations must be used. To host sectional competition, arena seating for at least 1,000 spectators is required.

Everyone meets the minimum:
Fisher 1200 (thanks, blindwatchmaker)
Brockport 2000
JCU 2448
Wooster 3400

Factor one, quality of facility perhaps favors Wooster on size alone, but quality of "other necessary accomodations" might score higher in the cities (Rochester, Cleveland) than in little ol' Wooster.
Factor two, geographical location, I think clearly favors Fisher and Brockport.  Transportation costs are lower there than here in Ohio, but we have better weather!    As regards rotation of sites, Wooster hosted sectionals in 2003 and 2004, Brockport had one in 2002, and nobody else has hosted since 2001 or earlier (I only went back that far for purposes of this post), so if this is a factor at all it would work against the Scots.
Factor three, seeding, is either Fisher or Wooster; hard to guess.  But this is just factor three; the decision might not get this far.
Factor four, attendance history and revenue potential, has got to favor Wooster with its big gym and big crowds.  There's no question that there'd be more tickets sold here (by 2000+) than anywhere else.  But again the decision may be made before even thinking about this.

It will be very interesting to see what shakes out, but I'm still planning on visiting the Kodak City next weekend.

[bjgiants6]

It would be great, if they played at a neutral site that was halfway between both Ohio and NY. I just want to watch Fisher close to home.

[wooscotsfan]

Wooster has the larger facility (3,400) but it is not clear who has the higher seeding because the NCAA does not publicize their seeds in D3.

ksc218 - the NCAA driving cutoff point is actually 500 miles so any of the 4 teams in this sectional could host and the other 3 teams would all bus to the site.

John Carroll and Wooster are only ~60 minutes apart so if one of them is the host, the other Ohio team probably sleeps in their own bed and avoids lodging costs (same scenario if sectional is in the Rochester area).

Should be a great sectional next weekend!

[bjgiants6]

wooscotsfan, it will. It will be a change of pace for us, we haven't played an Ohio team in ages. What's the scoop on Woosters' team? The two games we played in the NCAA Tourny, is we are a medium size team. We shot roughly 62% in both games. We have both an inside presence and on the perimeter. My opinion, we are a jump shot and perimeter team.

[blindwatchmaker]

Check out page 4 on the team profiles page under multi-regional topics.

[bjgiants6]

WOW, Wooster looks like an NCAA powerhouse team.

[diehardfan]

wooscotsfan, it will. It will be a change of pace for us, we haven't played an Ohio team in ages. What's the scoop on Woosters' team? The two games we played in the NCAA Tourny, is we are a medium size team. We shot roughly 62% in both games. We have both an inside presence and on the perimeter. My opinion, we are a jump shot and perimeter team.

There is a downloadable preview of all the tourney teams created by posters at wheatonhoops.googlepages.com/ncaatourney (well, except a couple that didn't submit, but all those teams are no longer in the tourney). It was fun to make, I hope it's useful to people!

The Wooster preview was created by none other than Wooster alum and HOFer David Collinge.

[sjfcards]

Fisher played a good game tonight and is playing as well as they have all season right now...I think a lot of who will make it out of the bracket will be where the game is played. Should be interesting.

I heard the locations are announced tomorrow...does anyone have any information on the time and whatnot...

I Fisher plays at home...and shoots the way they have the last two games they have a good chance I think...Wooster is a real good team and a real tough team for anyt team, but Fisher has to get through a real good Brockport team first...That one should be a real tough battle. I don't think B-port has seen Fisher playing like this yet...Baltz and Newman are both playing much better than they were even a month ago...Should be a great one.

[wooscotsfan]

bjgiants6 - Wooster is 27-3 having won both the NCAC regular season conference title and the NCAC tourney title to get the automatic NCAA bid.

Wooster plays an up tempo game as they average about 89 points per game.  The Scots shoot a lot of three pointers and they have made ~300 this season in 30 games (avg. 10 made three pointers/game).

Wooster has 4 players that can break you down and get a bucket:

James Cooper, very quick guard, who averages 18+ points per game

Tom Port, 6'5" shoots three pointers and posts in the lane,  16.5/game

Tim Vandervaart, very quick 6'6" post who averages 13.4/game

Brandon Johnson, 6'2" point guard who penetrates the lane 10.9/game

Wooster also has 4 other talented players in Evan Will, Andy Van Horn, Devin Fulk and Marty Bidwell.  The Scots run an 8 man rotation.

Wooster shoots 52% from the floor, 42% on three pointers and they outrebound their opponents by an average of 7 per game.

Wooster also plays tough defense so they have scored some convincing wins including a 26 point win over Translyvania in the first round and a 17 point win tonight over a 24-4 Centre squad.