Empire 8

[David Collinge]

Split sessions are an exception to the one-day, one-session rule; the exception has to be granted by the men's committee.  I'd guess you have to have substantial justification, like "our gym is too small for fans of four teams" (Fisher, Albion) or "there's a gazillion Hope fans headed our way" (Stevens Point), to get the split session approved.

The Handbook specifies "minimum" ticket prices ($7 adult, $4 senior/student), and that ticket prices must be set by the tournament manager (a local) in consultation with a member of the men's committee.  I'd gather from that that the NCAA keeps some or all of that first $7 with the hosts getting their costs covered plus whatever they are allowed to charge above the minima.

[JQV]

Split sessions are an exception to the one-day, one-session rule; the exception has to be granted by the men's committee.  I'd guess you have to have substantial justification, like "our gym is too small for fans of four teams" (Fisher, Albion) or "there's a gazillion Hope fans headed our way" (Stevens Point), to get the split session approved.

The Handbook specifies "minimum" ticket prices ($7 adult, $4 senior/student), and that ticket prices must be set by the tournament manager (a local) in consultation with a member of the men's committee.  I'd gather from that that the NCAA keeps some or all of that first $7 with the hosts getting their costs covered plus whatever they are allowed to charge above the minima.

That is a better answer to the motivation for a split session.

[SJFF82]

As a fisher alum I am proud (sarcastically) to say that I have never attended a Fisher BB game.  With that said, how in the hell have 'they' decided to host a game at Fisher in the Sweet 16 with so little seating capacity?  Excuse my ignorance, but is there not a neutral location that would be more fan accessible?

By the way...are there tickets available to the general public? 

[FisherDynasty]

SJFF82, THE GAME IS FOR THE PLAYERS NOT FOR THE FANS.  I think the Fisher team would rather play on their home court with less fans, than to play on a neutral court so everyone can be happy. 

Yes tickets are availabe to anyone.

[bjgiants6]

Can anyone buy me three tickets for Friday night( 1 for the 6pm game and 2 for the 8 pm game)? I'll obviously pay you back and a little more. If interested send me an e-mail.

[Cards7580]

"... THE GAME IS FOR THE PLAYERS NOT FOR THE FANS ..."

hmmm, so why do colleges, universities, High Schools all build gyms with 1000's of seats ? 
These games gotta be for someone (other than the players and coaches), otherwise why
not play the games in empty arena's.    No college builds a stadium or arena for "just" it's
players in mind.     I'm sure Syracuse Univ (and the taxpayers of NY state) didn't get the Carrier
dome built for just 100 football and 20 basketball players to stay warm and dry during games.
32,000 plus seats for PAYING customers is why.   

[division3hoops]

I have to agree with FisherDynasty on this one.  Even though I would much rather be playing on a neutral court than at Fisher, I would be extremely upset if I was due to host and they held the tournament at a neutral site.  Think about it...Fisher players play there every day, practice there, they are used to the court.  That's a big advantage...
Plus if the game was at a neutral site, they probably wouldn't get as many people there. 

[FisherDynasty]

exactly, If i had to play at RIT or UofR, i mean yeah it would be great to have alot of fans but as far as shooting the ball, I would want to be in the gym i practice everyday.  It makes a huge difference as far as comfortability. 

[division3hoops]

"... THE GAME IS FOR THE PLAYERS NOT FOR THE FANS ..."

hmmm, so why do colleges, universities, High Schools all build gyms with 1000's of seats ? 
These games gotta be for someone (other than the players and coaches), otherwise why
not play the games in empty arena's.    No college builds a stadium or arena for "just" it's
players in mind.     I'm sure Syracuse Univ (and the taxpayers of NY state) didn't get the Carrier
dome built for just 100 football and 20 basketball players to stay warm and dry during games.
32,000 plus seats for PAYING customers is why.   

Hmm good question.  But you also have to think about how often Fisher and other school's with small gyms actually sell out.  Probably not much during their regular season or even conference tournaments.  Actually, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm betting Fisher hasn't sold out their gym in a long time.  

[GPT]

Fisher sells out the nazareth game womens and mens everyear

[division3hoops]

Hmm okay.  When I looked at the attendance on the box score for the men's and women's game against Nazareth, it was listed as 1000.  I thought Fisher's gym held 1200...perhaps that number was just an estimate.

[JQV]

THE GAME IS FOR THE PLAYERS NOT FOR THE FANS.

This sounds a lot like "Every game is a game."  FD, is your last name Berra by any chance?  Why can't the game be for both the players and the fans?

exactly, If i had to play at RIT or UofR, i mean yeah it would be great to have alot of fans but as far as shooting the ball, I would want to be in the gym i practice everyday.  It makes a huge difference as far as comfortability. 

You made this argument last week when talking about UR too.  I wonder why you think playing on the rims you practice on is an advantage?  With the exception of the double rims at some public parks, I pretty much shoot it the same on every bucket.

[sjfcards]

Hmm okay.  When I looked at the attendance on the box score for the men's and women's game against Nazareth, it was listed as 1000.  I thought Fisher's gym held 1200...perhaps that number was just an estimate.

despite what the internet may say go to a Fisher/Naz game some time and you will see how full the gym can get. Whatever the attendance may be listed at, the gym was packed and their was much more than 1000 people there. I have also been to other key conference games that have been sold out in the past. The problem is that those games all took place while school was in session. I believe Fisher is on Spring Break this week, and it may be tough to get the numbers without the students that would love to go, but is not going to make a couple hour trip to see it. 

[Cards7580]

If the only way a team has it's BEST SHOT to  win an NCAA championship is to play every game at home with local referees all the players know, have 80% of the gym filled with "their" fans, and home cooking;  then maybe they shouldn't be in the tournament ?    

Like Chairman Jose says, a rim is a rim.  They are supposed to be 10 feet high and the same size for everybody.

[JQV]

Like Chairman Jose says, a rim is a rim.  They are supposed to be 10 feet high and the same size for everybody.

Maybe it really effects some players.  When I was playing it always sounded like an excuse.