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[division3hoops]

Wow.  I would have to say that playing on your own court, with your own fans, sleeping in your own bed, not having to travel to another place, ride on a bus....that's a HUGE advantage...

[JQV]

Wow.  I would have to say that playing on your own court, with your own fans, sleeping in your own bed, not having to travel to another place, ride on a bus....that's a HUGE advantage...

I didn't mean to imply that I think home teams have no advantage.  I certainly agree that fans and travel, among other things, negatively effect visiting teams.  I am only disputing the argument that the court or the rims has any effect. 

[diehardfan]

THE GAME IS FOR THE PLAYERS NOT FOR THE FANS.

Why can't the game be for both the players and the fans?

The game is for the FANS, and NOT the players! DUH! Think of them minions, dancing for us on their little strings... why else do you think they call it the big dance? Just kidding!

I think you're both right. The game can be for both of us, but it's mostly about the players, so they should be able to play in their own gym if they earned it... even if we don't get to see it.

[dewcrew88]

Like Chairman Jose says, a rim is a rim.  They are supposed to be 10 feet high and the same size for everybody.

Finally someone has the guts to say it. +K for you.

[FisherDynasty]

Jose, I guarantee just about everyteam in the country shoots better at home then they do on the road from the field. look up some stats (I dont feel like or have the time to look up numbers to post on here so im not going to). How can you say you dont think the court you play on  matters? yeah blah blah blah the rims are 10 ft hight. However, the space behind the backboard, what is behind the backboard, the lighting, just all around comfortability of playing on your own court helps you shoot better.  Shouldnt be that hard to understand.

[division3hoops]

Jose, I guarantee just about everyteam in the country shoots better at home then they do on the road from the field. look up some stats (I dont feel like or have the time to look up numbers to post on here so im not going to). How can you say you dont think the court you play on  matters? yeah blah blah blah the rims are 10 ft hight. However, the space behind the backboard, what is behind the backboard, the lighting, just all around comfortability of playing on your own court helps you shoot better.  Shouldnt be that hard to understand.

I completely agree

[zola]

The court, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be...a difference maker.

Old Guy History...As It Was In The Beginning

Remember when 1) only the "big venues had "glass" backboards and how difficult it was to make the transition from the solid boards at our small school gyms, 2) knowing the exact location of the infamous dead spots on the parquet floor in Boston Garden provided the Celtics with years of a "built-in" home court advantage 3) how difficult it was for visiting players new to the unusual sight lines in the cavernous Carrier Dome...ad infinitum.

...Is Now and Ever Shall Be

Shooters have their spots. At home, that translates into shooting from exact spots, from the same board(s) on the floor, seeing the same
sight line(s) and visual field(s)...repetition, repetition, repetition...the rest is as obvious as the preceeding.

[Pat Coleman]

Wow.  I would have to say that playing on your own court, with your own fans, sleeping in your own bed, not having to travel to another place, ride on a bus....that's a HUGE advantage...

Perhaps it's time to trot back out the stat that only 37% of sectional hosts have reached the Final Four in the past x years.

[BobNapoleone]

Wow.  I would have to say that playing on your own court, with your own fans, sleeping in your own bed, not having to travel to another place, ride on a bus....that's a HUGE advantage...

Perhaps it's time to trot back out the stat that only 37% of sectional hosts have reached the Final Four in the past x years.

Pat..where do you find time to keep EVERYBODY on track....thanks for the "reality check"

[JQV]

Jose, I guarantee just about everyteam in the country shoots better at home then they do on the road from the field. look up some stats (I dont feel like or have the time to look up numbers to post on here so im not going to). How can you say you dont think the court you play on  matters? yeah blah blah blah the rims are 10 ft hight. However, the space behind the backboard, what is behind the backboard, the lighting, just all around comfortability of playing on your own court helps you shoot better.  Shouldnt be that hard to understand.

I think we would all agree that Cameron Indoor Stadium is the best home court advantage in college hoops.

2006-2007

Duke at Home:  461-994 .464
Duke on the Road: 240-492 .488

In my mind, that is roughly equal.

FD, did you play hoop at Fisher?

[division3hoops]

Wow.  I would have to say that playing on your own court, with your own fans, sleeping in your own bed, not having to travel to another place, ride on a bus....that's a HUGE advantage...

Perhaps it's time to trot back out the stat that only 37% of sectional hosts have reached the Final Four in the past x years.

That's better than 25% though.  Think about it...4 teams at the sectional.  Each team has roughly 25% chance of making it.  37% is a much bigger percentage. 

[FisherDynasty]

I was going to say the same thing division3hoops. 

[Cards7580]

WEll, I guess the only "fair" way to handle this deal is to keep giving SJFisher home games in NCAA Rounds 1 and 2 and the Sectionals until they finally make it to the Final 8.  Then they would have something in common with the SUNYAC schools of Brockport, Plattsburgh, Oneonta and Potsdam.    Oh wait, that would mean SJF would need to advance to at least ONE Final Four.        I know Oneonta and Plattsburgh didn't need a home court advantage get into the final 8.  

One would think that if a school or it's fans want to claim that a Dynasty exists at that school, the school  would "FIRST" need to reach a higher level than most of their opponents.     I think even the U of R has even reached the Final Four in men's basketball at least twice and won one National Title  

Good thing for SJF that Anthony Williams and Plattsbugh got lucky against U of R or we wouldn't even be talking about small gyms at all        

Gooooooooooo  Brockport !!!!

[superman57]

first off your a Jerk....obviously your team lost and your sore about losing secondly, If I remember right Fisher was in the elite 8 last year and has 12 NCAA apperances...have they made the final 4 yet no, but they have deserved to host the regionals each year and this year for some reason they were given the sectionals, do they deserve it this year, no flat out I don't think Fisher deserved it this year...but on that note it doesn't matter what I or some idiot like you cards thinks...It's the NCAA's decisoin and they felt that Fisher was the best place for this to be held...so if you have a real issue which I think you do...first off seeing a shrink might help and secondly go call Miles Brand and complain to him..

[Pat Coleman]

That's better than 25% though.  Think about it...4 teams at the sectional. Each team has roughly 25% chance of making it. 37% is a much bigger percentage. 

But this is not necessarily the case. One of the four teams is the best team and has a better chance of making it. Right? And if the best team is often the host, then you'd think it was more than a 37.5% chance.