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fisheralum91

keystone-
sounds good- good luck!

FisherDynasty

#3751
I had to do it, although these match ups have little impact on the game since bport will be pressing and fishers baskets will likely be uncontested layups so can't pin point who scores on who. Also, the players from both team are very different and do different things, they're arent many similiarities between the too so the comparisons are necessary who is better at what, just if i had to chose one of the players this is who itd be.


Sherod Harris - 5'9    Vs. Matt Newman 6'2    - Sherod Harris (bport)
Micah wilkes - 5'10      Vs Dan Mueller 5'11    -   Dan Mueller  (Fisher)
Shawn Harris - 5'11     Vs Chris Baltz 6'3        -   Baltz (Fishter)
Brandon Williams - 6'2 Vs Justin Beigal 6'5   -   Even(edge to williams Bport)
Cantrel Smith - 6'7     Vs Dan Mcsweeney 6'6  -  Mcsweeney (Fisher

Key reserves
Maldano 6'5 vs Adrian Fenyn 6'5  - Maldano (Bport) (if adrian plays better it will be huge)
Poles 5'11 vs  Isiah Smalt 6'5 - not a match up so again huge whoever steps up


I'll take Fisher +3 in hoping the ref's call the game tight.




fisheralum91

if fisher can keep a slower pace and avoid giving up big three's they should win...

bamm

I know Fisher is playing well right now, and you Fisher guys are pretty confident.

But I think you should be reminded that before the SUNYAC final Brockport had won 14 in a row.  They are scorching hot as well.  They just finished dismantling Saint Lawrence in the second half, at SLU.  They beat Fisher at Fisher this season. 

If Brockport plays well, it will take Fisher's A+ game to beat them.

fisheralum91

Understood.
Yet, pace and home court may play a big factor in this one!

FisherDynasty

I'm not sure if i call it confident saying Fisher +3 if the refs call the game tight.  I think Bport is very good and very talented, probably more so then Fisher.  However i cant see them shooting as good as they did against Fisher the first time, they shot the lights out, I think they would have beaten anyone that night.  If they shoot like that again, they will win no doubt in my mind. A team with that much quickness and now has some size who can shoot the ball very good will be tough to beat for anyone.  Im a little nervous to see which Fisher team will show, the team that I saw the past 4-5 games or a team that i saw in the middle of the season.  Having 2 freshmen its really hard to tell.  Sometimes freshmen come out and play out of their minds as if it was just another game and others fold under the big game atmosphere.  So far so good, but we'll see, bports pressure is unreal.  Should be a great game, I think whichever teams shoots better from the outside will win.

gobombers15

Quote from: FisherDynasty on March 07, 2007, 08:46:21 AM
gb15, didnt you say numerous times during the season that teams have a hard time shooting in the 'Bulb'?


On to the game: i really wanted to break down both Fisher and Bport and see who would come out on top player vs player, but i dont think im going to because playing against bport isn't like playing against other teams.  You basically play against their pressure and intensity instead of the players individually, that is why i think the bport team can play with a ton of teams left but also can lose to a ton of teams that can handle the pressure.

No, I didn't. Not once. Good luck finding one comment that I made about teams shooting at the Bulb.
A 2004 graduate of the "almighty legendary" Ithaca College. Goooooo Bombers.

fisheralum91

come on boys-play nice

FisherDynasty

I'm not looking back dont really care that much, but you did say playing in the bulb maybe not directly shooting. You said atleast one of the teams has a tough time shooting/playing there, cant remember which team i think Utica/Naz/RIT cant remember. Either way dont really care. lets stay on the topic of the game, gobombers give your analysis as much as we argue, your game analysis is usually pretty solid.

tigerfan2

It would take too long to go back and look so I don't have the numbers here but I have to ask...

FisherDynasty,

Has there been a Fisher game this year where this hasn't been your prediction

"I'll take Fisher +(insert #)"


Just wondering.

dewcrew88

Quote from: gobombers15 on March 07, 2007, 11:17:54 AM
Quote from: FisherDynasty on March 07, 2007, 08:46:21 AM
gb15, didnt you say numerous times during the season that teams have a hard time shooting in the 'Bulb'?


On to the game: i really wanted to break down both Fisher and Bport and see who would come out on top player vs player, but i dont think im going to because playing against bport isn't like playing against other teams.  You basically play against their pressure and intensity instead of the players individually, that is why i think the bport team can play with a ton of teams left but also can lose to a ton of teams that can handle the pressure.

No, I didn't. Not once. Good luck finding one comment that I made about teams shooting at the Bulb.

Just to be the a-hole here  ::) :P   I do remember a sarcastic and hilarious post about how the tournament should be hosted at the Bulb and asking PC why a team that didnt make the tourney couldnt host it.

fisheralum91

that was mr. chair jose, budcrew.

gobombers15

#3762
Quote from: FisherDynasty on March 07, 2007, 11:24:28 AM
I'm not looking back dont really care that much, but you did say playing in the bulb maybe not directly shooting. You said atleast one of the teams has a tough time shooting/playing there, cant remember which team i think Utica/Naz/RIT cant remember. Either way dont really care. lets stay on the topic of the game, gobombers give your analysis as much as we argue, your game analysis is usually pretty solid.

I don't think there will be much novel game analysis as the teams have played each other twice now. I think it comes down to whether Fisher can handle the press and not give Brockport TOO MANY easy baskets. Inevitably, Fisher will turn it over and Brockport will get some layups off their press. The key for Fisher is to limit those mistakes. If a half court game predominates, Fisher has a great advantage. If the game turns into a helter skelter affair, I'd favor Brockport. Fisher will have to punish Brockport's press by getting easy hoops and three's in transition. One weakness of the press is that when it's beaten, the defense has to scramble to match up and that will leave open shooters on the outside; if Fisher shoots the 3's like they did last weekend, Brockport will be in a world of trouble.

I think both teams will have their moments during this game. I think there will be big momentum shifts and I honestly would not be surprised if both teams hold double-digit leads at some point in the game. As much as I hate to do it (yeah yeah conference loyalty, but don't think Michigan fans ever root for Ohio State), I think Fisher wins this game. I think when a team runs a gimmicky defense like a full-court press, good teams get better and better each time they play against it. I don't think Fisher will make too many mistakes the third time around. Brockport is a better team now than they were in either of the first two matchups, but so is Fisher, and on Fisher's court, I think the Cardinals take the game.

Final Score prediction:

Brockport  84
Fisher       90
A 2004 graduate of the "almighty legendary" Ithaca College. Goooooo Bombers.

FisherDynasty

#3763
TigerFan look back a few pages, you'll see my elite game Wooster over Fisher +7.  nice try.


Gb15, great analysis, i think you hit it right on the nose.  Should be an excellent game.

fisheralum91