Empire 8

[Cadillac]

Thanks for the info boys...It looks like Fisher will have a lot of work to do with the loss of McSweeny and Mueller.

No more work than replacing O'Brien, McGee, and Bennett, who scored about 85% of the points two years ago.

Who at this point last year thought Mueller, who averaged 1.9 the year before, would be All-Conference?

This year we're looking at:

• 4 to 5 seniors/juniors that have plenty of game experience (yep, some of that's purely from sticking around, getting relief or mop up duty through sheer number of games)
• a couple sophomores that have played really well
• freshmen that will be forced minutes to bring psyche up to speed with their talent

What's the point?
It looks like a typical Kornaker team, and I mean that as the highest compliment.  It's a winning formula, and its served Fisher well in the 3 years I've been watching them.  There's another Dan Mueller on the roster somewhere, and there are enough options that one will emerge to go along with the younger talent.

More after tomorrow's first scrimmage.

[Cadillac]

Fisher's starters jumped all over Houghton's starters in the first 20 minutes.
In the second, Houghton's second/third team buried Fisher's third/fourth guys.
The third game was mostly starters the entire way and was very close with Fisher winning by about 6.

For Fisher:
- Baltz is, and should be, offensive option A, B, and C.  He was shooting lights out.
- McKeever was the first guy off the bench.  Wopperer was #2.  McKeever hit 2 out of 2 threes in about 4 minutes before making way for the younger guys.  In game 3, he ran the point for some time.
- Ozell Franklin is going to be more impressive than frustrating.  He played great within the offense, and looked good cutting to the basket.  The only negative - he was way off on his outside shooting.
- JBeigel & Smalt were both very rusty on offense.  JBeigs got his points, but put up a lot of shots.  They looked okay on D.
-Brandon Beigel is much improved.  He'll still probably only get in during blowouts, but he put in a lot of work, and deserves kudos.
-Brian Kern is very skinny.
-Freshman Will Cornett played over Coyne, but that may just be because the scrimmage was at his high school.

I'd say 150 turned out at Campbell-Savona to watch.  All 5 alums played extensively.  Nice crowd.  Very polite.

[sjfcards]

I was just looking around the internet and I noticed that Fisher has updated the roster for the basketball team for this season. I noticed that Ozell Franklin is not on the list?
Any reason why?

[JQV]

I was just looking around the internet and I noticed that Fisher has updated the roster for the basketball team for this season. I noticed that Ozell Franklin is not on the list?
Any reason why?

Most of the SIDs are still locked in with Football.  Besides, the teams have only been practicing for about a week right.  Actually, I wonder if schools don't hold any roster until the completion of the "tryouts" in the first week of practice when D3 teams go through the motions of appearing to be open to all students.

[sjfcards]

Good call. The roster has been changed on the Fisher webpage, and it looks like it is finalized from what I can tell. Ozell Franklin has been added to the list along with some other freshman. I still do not know what to make of the team this year, but I am sure Fisher will find a way to be in the hunt.

[e8bballfan]

ahh fishers roster updated to 23 players, now that's more like it...i thought fisher's roster looked a little weird with less than 20 players on it.

Noticed that the Kern kid ppl had been talking about isn't listed. He not on the team or what?

[FisherDynasty]

haha that was good, ya never know there may be a few others added on to make it 25-26. 

[whatman]

B. Kern quit

[bamm]

I'd say 150 turned out at Campbell-Savona to watch.  All 5 alums played extensively.  Nice crowd.  Very polite.

Was there an admission charge?  If so, I assume this was a fund-raiser for CS basketball?  I know the team was a casualty of the local school budget deficit issues.

Anyway, nice gesture by Kornaker and whoever the heck the coach for Houghton is.

[FisherDynasty]

I could see Kern quitting coming.  Typical kid with good skills and very good athleticism yet doesn't have the strength, decision making, or team skills needed to get minutes for Fisher or any good program for that matter.  Theres a reason why he's transfered twice already. On other news, where is everyone else for other schools no fans? no updates for teams? theres only so much to say about fisher before the season starts.

[sjfcards]

I hear that...where is everyone from Stevens? I would like to get some info on them. How about Utica, or RIT? I would like to know something about these teams.

[triplethreat]

Anybody have anything on other E8 teams scrimmages besides Fisher?

[JQV]

I could see Kern quitting coming.  Typical kid with good skills and very good athleticism yet doesn't have the strength, decision making, or team skills needed to get minutes for Fisher or any good program for that matter.  Theres a reason why he's transfered twice already. On other news, where is everyone else for other schools no fans? no updates for teams? theres only so much to say about fisher before the season starts.

College basketball doesn't start until mid-December even if games are played before then.

[FisherDynasty]

Thats exactly the reason why Fisher has won the E8 the past 5 years

[triplethreat]

Brian Kern getting playing time at Ithaca his freshman year and then coming to Fisher a few years later and not fitting in is given.  Year in and year out players on opposing teams even starters on those teams would not see the floor if they played for Fisher, so seeing the Kern kid quitting is not surprising at all to me.