Empire 8

triplethreat · November 01, 2007, 08:41:09 PM

These two kids from Stevens are very good and could give all the teams in the conference some serious problems. They could very easily both be first or second teamers.

JQV · November 01, 2007, 11:12:38 PM

To be totally honest, it is assanine debate like this that makes the basketball board so much less interesting than the football board.

FisherDynasty · November 02, 2007, 10:16:48 AM

why dont you stay on the football board then. Everytime i take a look on that board theres off topic conversation about some mumbo jumbo.

triplethreat · November 02, 2007, 10:38:48 AM

What topic is it that you would like to discuss?

JQV · November 02, 2007, 11:11:11 AM

My point is that you Fisher guys get so caught up in yourselves sometimes that you end making, and attempting to defend, ridiculous arguments.

1) Stop taking yourself so seriously.

2) Stop acting as though one of these schools is going to hire a hoop coach off these boards. It's ok to just understand the game as a fan.

3) The Empire 8 existed before the last 5 seasons, though not that long before the last 5 seasons. It isn't too hard to brush up on such recent history.

That said, I generally enjoy your posts when you don't get caught up in each other. Your passion for Fisher hoops is a good thing for the league and can make this board very fun. Just relax.

Here is a thought to consider. Neither of the two most talented players every to play in the Empire 8 played at Fisher. In my opinion, there has not been a player that could hold a candle to either Devon Downing or Pat Britton.

triplethreat · November 02, 2007, 11:18:28 AM

First of all who said that I was a fan of Fisher? Also, if you saw in my previous posts I gave props to other players and said that this year there are a few teams that have a great shot at winning the conference. Stevens is a very good team and utica and naz should contend as well. With that being said there is a lot of parity in this conference every year and the statement that I made was Fisher has just dominated in the past. Thats all.

JQV · November 02, 2007, 11:40:40 AM

Sorry if this statement made me assume you were a Fisher fan.

Quote from: triplethreat on October 31, 2007, 10:14:19 PMYear in and year out players on opposing teams even starters on those teams would not see the floor if they played for Fisher, so seeing the Kern kid quitting is not surprising at all to me.

I don't think, however, that was an unreasonable assumption.

triplethreat · November 02, 2007, 01:54:03 PM

What I said came from Fisher just being that much better than everyone else in the past, I think you and everyone else would agree with me there. I am just stating the facts thats all.

JQV · November 02, 2007, 02:45:17 PM

Quote from: triplethreat on November 02, 2007, 01:54:03 PM
What I said came from Fisher just being that much better than everyone else in the past, I think you and everyone else would agree with me there. I am just stating the facts thats all.

Fisher has won the league the last five years by having a group of players that were collectively better than the group of players on other teams. That is a fact. Your opinion that no team in the E8 has had a player that could get minutes at Fisher is not a fact.

triplethreat · November 02, 2007, 03:05:25 PM

I didnt say all players and if thats how you took it that is not what I meant. But on to the next topic....Some exhibition games coming up as early as this weekend. Fisher has a University of Waterloo team coming in who I have heard is pretty good. I hear that they play against some D1 teams, this should be a good way to find out what Fishers team this season is all about. Anybody have any predictions?

FisherDynasty · November 02, 2007, 04:19:20 PM

Yeah but Canadian basketball is very bad. The past 4-5 seasons ive seen Fisher win by about 60 in their exhibition team. The canadian teams look very impressive phycially and athletically but just dont play right. We'll see though, maybe this team will be different.

JQV · November 02, 2007, 04:23:51 PM

Quote from: FisherDynasty on November 02, 2007, 04:19:20 PM
who the hell is the university of waterloo? waterloo as in waterloo NY? im confused.

Without looking I am all but certain it is a Canadian team.

FisherDynasty · November 02, 2007, 04:25:32 PM

yeah looked it up, Triplethreat ill go with fisher by 10-15, waterloo is 2-7 on the year, givin there game experience over Fisher it could be closer.

thebear · November 02, 2007, 04:33:54 PM

Waterloo is a D-I Canadian University located 90 miles west of Toronto. They are considered one of the top math/computer science schools in the world. Waterloo faculty/grads invented the blackberry. The school has about 22,000 undergraduates, and 2,500 grad students, so it is 10 times the size of Fisher.

They play in the top Ontario University league which has teams that are competitive with mid-majors. Carleton, who is in their league just played Louisville in Freedom Hall.

They lost to Duquesne in their season opener by 27. They have good size, including a 6-9 and a 6-7

Their players are all canadian, and they play international (Olympic) rules normally. They will be good three point shooters, and used to physical play in the post.

triplethreat · November 02, 2007, 04:55:00 PM

This game should be a good one to see where Fishers bigs (Beigal, Smalt) are. I have heard that both of them didnt play all that great in the scrimmage. But going against 6'7 and 6'9 i they are somewhat decent they should give Fishers bigs some trouble being that their 6'5 and 6'6, but we will see. Should be nice to see what Kornaker has done on the offensive end with the couple of guys he lost last year and who will fill their shoes.