Empire 8

[triplethreat]

A good one in Geneseo, Fisher down 2 with 1 minute to go.....could get interesting

[sjfcards]

Lets go Fisher...could be a big moment early in the season...Especially with E8 play on the horizon

[triplethreat]

67-64 Geneseo on the line with 6 ticks left....

[triplethreat]

68-64 Geneseo squeeks it out my 6 points wasnt a bad guess.......Fisher drops to 0-2 for first time in a while im thinking

[FisherDynasty]

First time in at least 10 years maybe 20.  from looking at the box score it looks as if kornacker was searching for anyone to step up and has a limited number of options mainly freshman.  Mark Bearden needs to shoot 8-10 shots a game and avg atleast 10 pts a game if fisher wants any chance to live up to expectations. 

[bombersquadron]

NYU is going to have a very down year from what they have had. They are rebuilding and lost 2 time east region player of the year Jason Boone, along with two other starters to graduation. Boone is a close friend of mine and current plays overseas in Germany. He also dunked directly over McSweeney in the Empire State Games two years ago up at RIT.

Anyways back to what matters, did anyone catch the Utica game tonight, how did they look? Any thoughts heading into fridays match-up with the bombers?

[FisherDynasty]

Yeah Boone visited Fisher and almost went there.  Chose NYU over both Fisher and Cornell (it was down to those 3).  I also saw the dunk over McSweeney, it was pretty nasty. Too bad they couldnt have played together. 

[triplethreat]

Could we see Fisher start off 0-3 possibly 0-4 after this weekend?  They have two very tough games this weekend against RIT and Stevens.  This Fisher team needs someone to step in and give them a boost.  Who is it going to be?  The losses of senior all conference players McSweeney and Mueller are really hurting Fisher with no one besides baltz and Biegal doin anything at all........

[FisherDynasty]

with a healthy Smalt fisher is 2-0.  but yeah Definately a possible 0-4 coming up, I think they'll have to be considered the underdogs in both games, if they squeeze 1-2 of two out that would be a good wkend.  that makes them 1-3? not a good start.

[with age comes?]

Potsdam/RIT should be a good early season test for both teams.  I agree with your assessment.  By the way, Potsdam also has a 6-11 freshman in Greg Lothridge, so the Rizzo/Lothridge matchup should be a preview of two potential D-III difference makers in the coming years.

The key for RIT will be how much/well the veterans, Whitwood and Roy will play coming off injuries.  Not surprised by Carson's emergence as a force, he spent two years in practice getting beat up by Bacon, that tends to get you better over time. 

Would be interested if the three first half fouls against Pickering were legit or "welcome to Rochester" type fouls.
Game was out of hand, but he did show the force he can be inside in the second half.
Bear it would not have mattered if Pickering had unlimited fouls, game was over early.  Ref crew was awful but did not affect outcome. The one call that really teed me off was a ref giving the Clarkson coach a T with .1 second left on the clock before half time after the scorekeeper let the clock run for at least a second after the ball was tossed out of bounds by RIT (which was up by I think 19 at the time). The Clarkson coach asked the ref about the time and my understanding was that the ref said it wasn't his job to watch the clock.  I don't know what was said to cause the T but it seemed to me that you just say something like I don't have replay, here's the ball, half over!!  Instead he gives 2 points to RIT on a tech. as they made the shots.  Maybe it was tough to get a crew on Thanksgiving weekend?   On a positive note I thought that the game between RIT and Potsdam would be close but go in RIT's favor at home.  Think it might go differently up north.

[JQV]

Mark Bearden needs to shoot 8-10 shots a game and avg atleast 10 pts a game if fisher wants any chance to live up to expectations. 

Whose expectations?

If you ask me Korny is playing for next year already.

Seems right.  No chance this is an overreaction.  In fact, I heard Kornaker has decided just to forfeit all remaining road games and save the travel money so Fisher can fly to road games next year.

You guys kill me.  Its 0-2 and its not football.  Get a drink or something.

[tigerfan2]

ROCHESTER, NY – The RIT men's basketball team improved to 3-0 after a 79-70 win over SUNY Potsdam on Tuesday evening. The 3-0 start by the Tigers is their best start since the 1999-00 season.

RIT jumped out to a 12-point lead early in the first half but the Bears responded with a 22-10 run at the end of the half, scoring the final eight points. Anthony Williams tied the score with a lay-up with 23 seconds remaining in the half.

Neither team shot the ball well in the first half. RIT went 9-for-30 (30%) from the floor in the first half and Potsdam shot 38.5% from the floor.

Barrett Zeinfeld (Tucson, AZ/Catalina Foothills) led RIT with seven first-half points on 3-for-3 shooting. Mark Carson (Voorheesville, NY), Kenny Gethers (Syracuse, NY/Bishop Grimes) and Nate Korinchak (Strongsville, OH) each had four points.

Serge Clement paced the Bears with nine first-half points. Anthony Williams added six points and Devin Taft and Brendan Graney each had five.

The Bears kept the momentum to start the second half, scoring the first four points of the half. Postdam took their biggest lead of the game on a jumper by Alvin Dike, giving the Bears a 41-33 lead.

RIT responded with a 29-9 run midway through the second half to re-gain the lead. The Tigers took their biggest lead on a three-pointer by Scott Young with 7:37 to play.

The Tigers shot 53.3% from the floor in the second half on 16-of-30 shooting from the floor. Scott Young scored six of his nine points in the second half.

Mark Carson scored 13 of his game-high 17 points in the second half. He also grabbed a team-best 13 boards.

Kenny Gethers finished with 13 points, eight rebounds and went 7-of-10 from the charity stripe.

Rick Whitwood (Wellsville, NY) finished with seven points, 10 rebounds, three assists and two steals. Freshman Shawn Roe (Corning, NY/Corning East) came off the bench and scored 10 points, nine of which came in the second half.

Brendan Graney paced the Bears with 16 points and nine rebounds. Dike added 14 points and Anthony Williams finished with 11 points and 10 rebounds.

[tigerfan2]

Carson went for 17pts despite is 3-11 performance from the FT line. Nice to see he's back to his old form there.

Looks like McVean is doing what he usually does, which is play a ton of different guys. 9 players over 10+ minutes (although this is less than normal for him) with only Carson playing more than 26 minutes. Pretty balanced as it usually is with RIT as 4 players score in double figures and S. Young chipping in with 9pts.

Hopefully RIT can finally get over the hump vs. Fisher this year, they typically play them close and find a way to lose late.

[FisherDynasty]

The expectations of the E8 COACHES who predicted Fisher to win the Conference.

[gobombers15]

Carson went for 17pts despite is 3-11 performance from the FT line. Nice to see he's back to his old form there.

Looks like McVean is doing what he usually does, which is play a ton of different guys. 9 players over 10+ minutes (although this is less than normal for him) with only Carson playing more than 26 minutes. Pretty balanced as it usually is with RIT as 4 players score in double figures and S. Young chipping in with 9pts.

Hopefully RIT can finally get over the hump vs. Fisher this year, they typically play them close and find a way to lose late.

TF2, I was going to make the joke last night that it looked like Carson is filling Bacon's shoes beautifully, right down to the fact that they put up the same type of numbers while both being utterly awful at the FT line. I figured that I'd save it for you and Bamm. Is this kid's form that bad? It's been the subject of a few conversations on here. I'm interested to see it.

I've put my revised conference predictions below. Disclaimer: Fisher fans, I'm not trying to pile on. It just seems like this season is turning into the perfect storm for all the other teams with respect to how they match up with Fisher. The Cards seem a little "down" this year, while most of the other teams seem primed to have good conference seasons. With that said, I'm still of the opinion that Fisher can make the E8 Tourney if their young guys can step up a little more and Smalt can give them as big of a lift as FD thinks he can (not a knock). The hole may be too deep, though, by the time he gets back (I have no knowledge re: his expected return...Fisher guys, know anything?).

1) Stevens (14-2)
T-2) Ithaca (11-5)
T-2) RIT (11-5)
4) Nazareth (10-6)
T-5) Utica (9-7)
T-5) Fisher (9-7)
7) Hartwick (7-9)
8 ) Alfred (2-14)
9) Elmira (0-16)