Empire 8

gobombers15 · January 26, 2008, 04:45:01 PM

Fisher all over Utica at the half, 35-19. Cards use a 16-0 run to turn a six-point deficit into a 23-13 lead. Cards getting to the line quite a bit. Let's just say that I don't think UCgrad is too happy with the officiating, thus far. Beigel is getting a little chippy and getting away with quite a bit.

jasper · January 26, 2008, 04:49:06 PM

From the looks of it Utica couldn't hit sand if they feel off a camel. I don't think the officiating has much to do with it. 4 for 13 isn't going to get it done

gobombers15 · January 26, 2008, 05:17:16 PM

Quote from: jasper on January 26, 2008, 04:49:06 PM
From the looks of it Utica couldn't hit sand if they feel off a camel. I don't think the officiating has much to do with it. 4 for 13 isn't going to get it done

Not saying the officiating means anything in this game. Just that UCgrad is probably pulling his hair out. After seeing Fisher play for the first time this year, I can say this 100% certainty: Ozell Franklin is their 2nd best player and should get way more PT than he does.

e8bballfan · January 26, 2008, 06:25:37 PM

And utica leaves their 'A game' back at home as fisher CRUSHES them. justin beigel w/17 & 7, smalt with 15 & 9. Fisher shoots over 50% from the field and Utica shoots just over 28%. wow. Fisher goes on a 16-0 run in the first half and never looks back.

Whoever said Munch is a d-1 player is quite possibly the biggest idiot ever. that kid is terrible.

gobombers15 · January 26, 2008, 06:26:02 PM

Fisher wallops Utica, 66-40. Not close after the 10 minute mark of the 1st half. Utica cut it to 10 or 12 in the 2nd half but never looked dangerous. Beigel has 17pts and 7rebs. Ozell Franklin with 12 and Smalt with 15 and 9. Herring with 17 for the Pios. Savior Whyte with 2 pts and 4 fouls in 9 minutes of play.

Hartwick handles Alfred, 73-57. Cocozziello with 23, A.J. Beaulieu with 13 and Chris Carson has 12 for 'Wick. Garlen Pat with 14 to lead Alfred. The game was never in single digits after the first seven minutes of the game.

So far the chalk has won every game this weekend. Stevens v. Elmira probably won't change that. However, Elmira did play them close the first time around.

jasper · January 26, 2008, 07:33:51 PM

Say what you will but Fisher is for real. I think they can beat Naz at home. Beating Stevens and absolutely destroying Utica i think its safe to say they are a contender for the title.

sjfcards · January 26, 2008, 07:52:59 PM

Quote from: jasper on January 26, 2008, 07:33:51 PM
Say what you will but Fisher is for real. I think they can beat Naz at home. Beating Stevens and absolutely destroying Utica i think its safe to say they are a contender for the title.

I don't know how much of a chance at the title they have, but they are definatley like they have turned a corner. The game against Naz at home is a HUGE one, especially if Naz finds a way to beat Stevens between then and now. Fisher does have an outside chance at the 1 seed, but I am just happy that it looks like they have a little breathing room to get into the top 4.
I just got back from the game, and Fisher looked pretty good today. Much better defensively, and they looked a lot more comfortable in their offense. When they shoot well, they can beat good teams. If Smalt and Beigle are off, or in foul trouble...then they can lose to anyone. At least they may be salvaging the season a little bit.

jasper · January 26, 2008, 08:44:31 PM

All i was saying is they have a chance. Besides Wick, Elmira, and Alfred the rest of the teams can beat each other any given night. Fisher has a couple of more "easier" games this coming week to prep for Ithaca,Naz. Should be a great couple of weeks.

sjfcards · January 27, 2008, 01:07:55 AM

Quote from: jasper on January 26, 2008, 08:44:31 PM
All i was saying is they have a chance. Besides Wick, Elmira, and Alfred the rest of the teams can beat each other any given night. Fisher has a couple of more "easier" games this coming week to prep for Ithaca,Naz. Should be a great couple of weeks.

At least it will be fun...Lets go Fisher...we need to win some games here on out.

jasper · January 27, 2008, 11:01:09 AM

I just hope someone besides Stevens gets to host the tourney.

with age comes? · January 27, 2008, 11:07:55 AM

Don't think anyone wants to travel down to Jersey to face Stevens. RIT has a stretch of games that they can play their way back into contention, but they are on the road so it isn't likely. After seeing them early in the year I thought they would be better, but at least if they go on a run they have a chance at sneaking in. However the lost of Zeinfeld makes it rather unlikely, but go TIGERS and fight to the finish, there is still a lot of hoop to be played and if you take your wins one at a time maybe you'll get some help with an upset here or there.

Cyclone0205 · January 27, 2008, 11:41:57 AM

If Stevens hosts the tourney I think they'll win it hands down. They haven't lost a home game all year and that trip is brutal on the rest of the e8. Is there any team that anyone could think of who would be a decent e8 member that's somewhere in between the schools? Sort of break up the trip a little bit. Travel thursday late..play a game friday...travel saturday early...play Stevens Sunday afternoon.

Caz Bombers · January 27, 2008, 01:05:28 PM

Quote from: Cyclone0205 on January 27, 2008, 11:41:57 AM
If Stevens hosts the tourney I think they'll win it hands down. They haven't lost a home game all year and that trip is brutal on the rest of the e8. Is there any team that anyone could think of who would be a decent e8 member that's somewhere in between the schools? Sort of break up the trip a little bit. Travel thursday late..play a game friday...travel saturday early...play Stevens Sunday afternoon.

Not really. The LLs aren't going to switch over so that only leaves more Skyline schools plus Manhattanville, which just moved to MAC Freedom. Manhattanville has some good teams but like any other Skyline option don't play football. Competitively they'd be like a mini-Stevens.

Within the Skyline you're talking Mount St. Mary (tiny teacher's college in Newburgh, which could be charitably described as Utica with a riverbank, sports suck except for WBB), Bard (beyond ludicrous, not an option) and Mount St. Vincent (too small and too much of a travel hassle being practically in NYC).

FisherDynasty · January 27, 2008, 01:31:05 PM

go bombers is this your first time seeing Fisher this year? if so, whats your assessment? do you think they are better than Ithaca? Naz, Stevens?

gobombers15 · January 27, 2008, 01:38:02 PM

Quote from: Cyclone0205 on January 27, 2008, 11:41:57 AM
If Stevens hosts the tourney I think they'll win it hands down. They haven't lost a home game all year and that trip is brutal on the rest of the e8. Is there any team that anyone could think of who would be a decent e8 member that's somewhere in between the schools? Sort of break up the trip a little bit. Travel thursday late..play a game friday...travel saturday early...play Stevens Sunday afternoon.

I'm guessing that if Stevens hosts, all the other schools will get down there much earlier than usual (Thursday afternoon before the Friday night games) so that the effects of a long trip are minimized. I sincerely doubt the coaches will wait until early Friday morning to get their teams there.

As far as Stevens winning the E8 Tourney "hands down" if they host, that may be a bit of an exaggeration. I'm aware that they're undefeated at home, but I can tell you that the close victories over Elmira (3 points) and Utica (1 point), two teams that will be watching the E8 Tourney, aren't going to leave any of the other teams quaking in their boots over playing at Stevens. Plus, remember that Ithaca led Stevens for much of the game in Hoboken despite Burton leaving in the first minute of the game. That will give the Bombers some confidence that they can win there.

Stevens will certainly be the favorite if the tourney is in Hoboken. That said, the advantage isn't anymore pronounced than what Ithaca or Fisher would enjoy in their home gyms. Fisher's never lost an E8 Tourney game in their own gym and Ithaca has only lost one home game all season and that was in OT while the Bombers were playing without Burton. I'm just saying that the "hands down" part of that statement is probably a bit of hyperbole.