Empire 8

[gobombers15]

With the tie breaker changing to the top down, If Stevens beats IC next week, then Fisher is the #2 seed, because of their win over Stevens? If IC beats Stevens, then what does that mean for the three teams with 4 losses (assuming Naz and Fisher win out)? The way I read it, the two losses to Stevens would put Naz in 4th. Anyone know the next tie breaker to determine who is #2 Fisher or IC? Guess it really does not matter much. The field is pretty much set.

I think in the event of a three-way tie, I think it goes to the head-to-head records vs the two teams you're tied with. I mean, that's the logical way of doing it. If that's the case, in the event there's a three-way tie, Fisher loses and will be the 4-seed (IC and Naz will be the 2 vs 3 game, who cares who'll be wearing the home uni's b/c it's on a neutral court). Both Naz and IC already have two wins against the other two teams while Fisher only has one and is done playing Ithaca and Naz.

The most interesting scenario would be this:
-Stevens loses at Utica and at Ithaca
-Fisher wins at Utica and at Hartwick
-Ithaca wins vs Stevens and vs Naz

That would give Fisher, Stevens and Ithaca four conference losses. Each team would be 2-2 vs the other two teams. I would assume that means we go to the next tiebreaker and Fisher gets bumped off by virtue of their 0-2 record vs Naz, while both Stevens and Ithaca would have 2-0 records vs Naz. Under this scenario, both Ithaca and Stevens would have split with Utica and RIT, and swept the bottom three teams. That would take us to the next tiebreaker which is road conference record, where Ithaca would win by virtue of their 7-2 record, compared to Stevens's 5-4 record under this scenario.

Only Ithaca and Stevens still have an opportunity to host. There are no conceivable possibilities that would allow Fisher or Naz to host.

[col]

Who had the best mascot this year?

Who had the best cheerleaders? (Fisher still rolling 35 deep on the baseline?)

Coach with the craziest antics in the Empire this year?

[gobombers15]

Stevens hasn't clinched anything yet, and Utica keeps alive it's faint hopes for an E8 Tourney berth with a 65-59 win over the Ducks today. Provided Ithaca can beat Naz on Saturday (not a sure thing), the game between Ithaca and Stevens will be for the right to host the E8 Tournament.

[FisherDynasty]

craziness, I'll be routing for Ithaca.  Naz plays like Sh**t there and Stevens is awful on the road, thus giving Fisher the best chance to win.  If Ithaca does beat Naz, and it goes down to the wire, i wonder if those teams will get worn out heading into the tournament.  Playing so close to the tournament usually is not a good thing.  I think Fisher having an easier road before the tourny could have an advantage.  However, you can also look at is those tough emotional games between ithaca and stevens will help prepare them.  Not sure which one it is or will be.

[Caz Bombers]

If the events of this weekend don't bring UCGrad45 back to the board then we can safely assume he was buried alive in a snowdrift during a previous CNY blizzard.

Fisher still dancing in a "down year" would make me a sad panda.  Maybe I'm just a hater, form your own opinion.

F.Dyn is right though, if this tournament gets held anywhere upstate it's a crapshoot.  Stevens and Naz the most talent but lacking focus on the road, Fisher the experience factor, Ithaca the intriguing cocktail of explosiveness and inconsistency (drink it in, drink it in, it always goes down smooth) and if Utica gets in, those guys are running on afterburners right now and could fly all the way to the title...and I just threw up a little in my mouth thinking about that possibility.

[reelentless]

If the events of this weekend don't bring UCGrad45 back to the board then we can safely assume he was buried alive in a snowdrift during a previous CNY blizzard.

.  .  .  if Utica gets in, those guys are running on afterburners right now and could fly all the way to the title...and I just threw up a little in my mouth thinking about that possibility.

I'm a little worried about UCGrad myself.  Haven't seen him at a game lately?  Great team wins for the Pioneers this weekend and a good omen for the future.  10 players (including 3 freshmen) had over 10 minutes in tonights win.  Most of the first half was played without Herring who picked up two early fouls and Utica ended the half down only 2.

And for the Munch detractors, Dennis gets the game ball tonight!  By the numbers, 10 points, six assists, five steals and five rebounds, but more importantly the timing on several of the steals and rebounds was clutch. 

It's taken most of the season, but the last two games have shown that UCGrad wasn't entirely crazy in his early assesment of the team.  For two consecutive games, it's nice to see all the new parts working together.   Unfortunately, at this point Utica can only win and hope, but if Ithaca doesn't mind the store, Caz Bombers' "distress" is well founded.

[lileyes]

Relentless...I agree...I was at the UC game yesterday also, and Munch was the difference in the game!

[JQV]

And for the Munch detractors

Maybe the funniest four words ever posted on this board.  Not sure exactly why.

Good year for E8 sports.  The football playoff race was exciting all the way through selection Sunday and now it sounds like we will have the first real conference tournament in Men's Hoops since the tourney started.  Hopefully the tournament will be at IC so all the games get on free TV.

[fisheralum91]

Good to see you on the boards Jose!
This E8 season has been a rough and tumble one for everyone.
UC beating Stevens suprised me- though knowing their track record on the road it shoudnt have.
I agree- hopefully IC hosts, if for anything ele to give the "local" colleges a bit of a break on travel!

[reelentless]

I agree- hopefully IC hosts, if for anything ele to give the "local" colleges a bit of a break on travel!

I know it's selfish, but I'm from NJ.  I'd rather see Utica play in Hoboken.

[gobombers15]

I agree- hopefully IC hosts, if for anything ele to give the "local" colleges a bit of a break on travel!

I know it's selfish, but I'm from NJ.  I'd rather see Utica play in Hoboken.

Let's be realistic, Utica still needs A LOT of help to get in the E8 Tourney.

[reelentless]

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Let's be realistic, Utica still needs A LOT of help to get in the E8 Tourney.
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Agreed, and Utica has it's own challenges with Fisher and Alfred, but I don't expect Stevens and Naz to be worried about hosting when they show up in Ithaca. 

[fisheralum91]

Hoboken?

Insert your favorite Bugs Bunny reference here!!!

[gobombers15]

And for the Munch detractors

Maybe the funniest four words ever posted on this board.  Not sure exactly why.

Good year for E8 sports.  The football playoff race was exciting all the way through selection Sunday and now it sounds like we will have the first real conference tournament in Men's Hoops since the tourney started.  Hopefully the tournament will be at IC so all the games get on free TV.

Jose, I wonder if ICTV would still offer it for free. If so, that would seem to undercut the whole E8TV thing. It was one thing to put a regular season game on ICTV that not many people would order on E8TV, but one of things that E8TV plugs the most is that every E8 Tourney game will be available on their site. I'd obviously prefer to watch it on ICTV, but I have a feeling that they'll defer on this one.

[JQV]

No idea but, the two E8TV games I have watched are basically re-broadcasts of the local school's production.  ICTV is not going to just turnover their production for sale.