Empire 8

superman57 · March 06, 2008, 12:24:53 PM

Quote from: JoseQViper on March 06, 2008, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: with age comes? on March 05, 2008, 07:02:53 PM
Not to be cynical, but wasn't there a flat out brawl at a SJF / Naz game a few years back? Maybe the initiatives were are outgrowth of that and, if that is the case, they are truly to be appreciated...

Nah, these initiatives are totally unrelated to that brawl. The Chuck Mitrano, E8 "Commissioner," basically uses the league as a vehicle to promote himself and his sportsmanship agenda. He has been making a big deal about what a good sport he is as long as I can remember. Sounds like people are starting to notice, which I suppose was the point all along. Too bad ol' Chucky boy has not control over post patterns!

Jose,
you didn't realize the Pat Coleman is just a clone of Chuck Mitrano

Knightstalker · March 06, 2008, 01:28:32 PM

Quote from: superman57 on March 06, 2008, 12:24:53 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on March 06, 2008, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: with age comes? on March 05, 2008, 07:02:53 PM
Not to be cynical, but wasn't there a flat out brawl at a SJF / Naz game a few years back? Maybe the initiatives were are outgrowth of that and, if that is the case, they are truly to be appreciated...

Nah, these initiatives are totally unrelated to that brawl. The Chuck Mitrano, E8 "Commissioner," basically uses the league as a vehicle to promote himself and his sportsmanship agenda. He has been making a big deal about what a good sport he is as long as I can remember. Sounds like people are starting to notice, which I suppose was the point all along. Too bad ol' Chucky boy has not control over post patterns!

Jose,
you didn't realize the Pat Coleman is just a clone of Chuck Mitrano

No supes, PC and Daniel Snyder are the same person.

superman57 · March 06, 2008, 02:45:31 PM

Quote from: Knightstalker on March 06, 2008, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: superman57 on March 06, 2008, 12:24:53 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on March 06, 2008, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: with age comes? on March 05, 2008, 07:02:53 PM
Not to be cynical, but wasn't there a flat out brawl at a SJF / Naz game a few years back? Maybe the initiatives were are outgrowth of that and, if that is the case, they are truly to be appreciated...

Nah, these initiatives are totally unrelated to that brawl. The Chuck Mitrano, E8 "Commissioner," basically uses the league as a vehicle to promote himself and his sportsmanship agenda. He has been making a big deal about what a good sport he is as long as I can remember. Sounds like people are starting to notice, which I suppose was the point all along. Too bad ol' Chucky boy has not control over post patterns!

Jose,
you didn't realize the Pat Coleman is just a clone of Chuck Mitrano

No supes, PC and Daniel Snyder are the same person.

KS, superman feels that they are both clones of Chuck Mitrano, here are some more Chucky Mitrano clones

Hal Steinbrenner

Pat Coleman · March 07, 2008, 12:52:17 AM

Quote from: JoseQViper on March 06, 2008, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: with age comes? on March 05, 2008, 07:02:53 PM
Not to be cynical, but wasn't there a flat out brawl at a SJF / Naz game a few years back? Maybe the initiatives were are outgrowth of that and, if that is the case, they are truly to be appreciated...

Nah, these initiatives are totally unrelated to that brawl. The Chuck Mitrano, E8 "Commissioner," basically uses the league as a vehicle to promote himself and his sportsmanship agenda.

Hmm, someone sounds bitter.

JQV · March 07, 2008, 08:10:30 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2008, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: JoseQViper on March 06, 2008, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: with age comes? on March 05, 2008, 07:02:53 PM
Not to be cynical, but wasn't there a flat out brawl at a SJF / Naz game a few years back? Maybe the initiatives were are outgrowth of that and, if that is the case, they are truly to be appreciated...

Nah, these initiatives are totally unrelated to that brawl. The Chuck Mitrano, E8 "Commissioner," basically uses the league as a vehicle to promote himself and his sportsmanship agenda.

You're right. That does read much worse than it was intended. I have never met Mitrano and am sure he is a perfectly nice guy. I only meant to express that I have not seen a lot of control over the E8 outside of this one particular issue. I also can't help but notice how often the guy shows up as a sportsmanship expert in news stories.

Maybe the quotation marks were a bit much.

Hmm, someone sounds bitter.

gobombers15 · March 07, 2008, 09:35:08 AM

I hope the Rays do well, but if this were an episode of Around the Horn, I'd be "selling." I know, Caz, you're very high on them this year. I call it the Arizona Cardinals Fallacy because, I was thinking, the comparisons between the Rays in baseball and the Arizona Cardinals in football are startling. Both teams:

-Have a guy who goes a round or two too early in fantasy drafts because of reputation (Edge James and Carl Crawford...who still puts up great numbers, but below par for outfielders consistently drafted in the 1st round)

-Have several fantasy football/baseball darlings

-To that point, some great-stats-on-bad-teams players (Crawford, Upton, Pena vs Boldin, Fitzgerald, Warner)

-A guy whose reputation far exceeds anything that they've ever done in professional sports, due to injuries and the like (Rocco Baldelli and Matt Leinart)

-Unrealistic expectations put on them by the media each pre-season (i.e. "Is this the year the Cardinals make the playoffs?" and "Is this the year that the Rays can win 80 games?")

-Sorely lacked the elements that make teams in their respective sports successful (offensive/defensive line for Arizona, starting pitching/bullpen/defense for the Rays)

Don't get me wrong, I think things are finally looking up for Tampa. They will be 30x better on defense this year with Iwamura/Bartlett up the middle. I'm thoroughly excited about saying "Evan Longoria" all summer (over/under on Eva Longoria comments made by opponents' broadcasters and SportsCenter anchors: 7,000). Upton has the chance to put up absurd numbers this year, too, and anytime you can get rid of two headcases (Dukes and Young), that never hurts either.

What worries me, as always, is their pitching. Kazmir is a tremendous talent even if inconsistent for long stretches. Shields had a better 2007 season than most realize and is a decent #2, and Garza is certainly on the upswing of his career. However, according to MLB.com, Andy Sonnanstine and Edwin Jackson are their fourth and fifth starters right now. You're just not going to win with that, sorry. It sounds like some of their pitching prospects are almost ready, but even if they are they'll take some lumps against some of those quality AL lineups. Also, the Rays bullpen is average, at best.

Baseball Prospectus predicted 88 wins for Tampa. I almost spit out my orange juice when I read that. Excitedly, I quickly surfed to an online gambling website hoping the site would have set Tampa's over/under win total at something equally absurd. Unfortunately for my student loans, no dice. Most Vegas casinos have them at over/under 74.5. I agree with that.

Jose, when do the Rays get their new stadium? Tropicana is such an eyesore. However, I did like the venue for college basketball.

magicman · March 07, 2008, 08:04:24 PM

Nazareth loses to Rhode Island College 77-73.

Caz Bombers · March 07, 2008, 08:09:46 PM

Quote from: magicman on March 07, 2008, 08:04:24 PM
Nazareth loses to Rhode Island College 77-73.

Well that was fun. When's football season.

MHoops · March 07, 2008, 08:26:03 PM

Quote from: Caz Bombers on March 07, 2008, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 07, 2008, 08:04:24 PM
Nazareth loses to Rhode Island College 77-73.

Well that was fun. When's football season.

Well the E8 is still alive on the womens side for now. Utica is leading 33-31 at the half vs. #11 Kean.

MHoops · March 07, 2008, 09:42:22 PM

UC women lost 83-76. From livestats it looks like they made a comeback from being down by 18 points 2nd half but they ran out of time.

gobombers15 · March 07, 2008, 11:04:21 PM

Good season for Naz. Unfortunately, RIC had an excellent bench and outscored Naz's reserves 40-11. That'll do it.

magicman · March 08, 2008, 02:35:24 AM

Here's hoping that U of R and Plattsburgh St. can both make a run to the final 4 and give NYS hoops team something to be proud of. I can see Rochester doing just that as they have a good chance to host the sectionals. Plattsburgh has a tough road ahead. If they get by Kings College, they'll face Brandeis or Bowdoin, and a win there and the prize is Amherst at Amherst in all probability. Love to see a rematch of UR and Plattsburgh in the Semifinals.

superman57 · March 08, 2008, 10:57:40 AM

Superman does not envy anyone playing at Amherst, has to be one of the best homecourts in the country

FisherDynasty · March 08, 2008, 11:31:28 AM

Platts will take care of kings, and will give Brandies a run for their money, however, they will lose to Amherst.

UofR if they win their second round game against mass dartmouth they will go to the final 4 in my opinion.

magicman · March 08, 2008, 06:03:57 PM

U of R will face a bigger challenge from Va. Wesleyan or Ursinus than they will from UMass-Darthmouth. Sadly, I have to agree with your Plattsburgh assessment, but hope we're both wrong. Now it's time to take in the game. Miserable weather in Plattsburgh tonite. Sleet and freezing rain all afternoon and evening followed by more snow.