MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[HSCDad]

H-SC 56  Guilford 46 with about 8 minutes to go  Pittman has carried Guilford totally

[Will2Win]

53-47 EMU....16 mins left

[hasanova]

HSC 73, GC 61 Final

[HSCDad]

H-SC  7th in row - 73-61 Jesse had great night - Pittman had about 20 in 2nd half with 6 in first - Ru White blocked several of his shots

[DeWayneCarter]

VWC survives a another bad shooting night with a win over Lynchburg 60-52.... even though the game was probably ugly the Marlins needed a win badly at this point. Hopefully they will get a solid win over E&H Saturday to get their confidence back up going into ODAC tournament. A win over E&H would also give them the #1 seed for the tournament.

[Will2Win]

Sloppy one in Hburg for the most part but the Royals lead the whole way and win another one 94-82 over W&L. Phillips leads the way again with 22pts 8rebs(in only 26 mins, foul trouble) and in fitting fashion the 5 seniors all score in double figures on Sr Night. J.D. Ey had a huge night for the visitors dopping 26 on 12-15 shooting and he added 10 rebs and Larry Whitaker chips in with 17pts and 10rebs off the bench.

[HSCDad]

Roanoke by 1 over Randolph at buzzer!!

[Brian Hamilton]

HSC still has a shot at #5.  If they beat Macon they should have it.  If Randolph loses to LC they should have it.  The only way they don't get #5 is if they lose at Macon and Randolph beats LC which is totally possible. 

Pittman was very impressive tonight for GC.  He had almost no help while George did not have to carry the load.  There were four Tigers in double figures and that is when they are dangerous.  Early in the season it was the Harrison George show.  Now the other guys are stepping up and taking some of the pressure off of George to score.  The Tigers also hit a lot of threes tonight as GC attempted to clog the lane.  I was not disappointed by the effort of GC.  They all played hard.  The Tigers game plan appeared to be to run on GC because they advanced the ball quickly trying to put pressure on the Quakers transition defense.  I think it may also have been to wear Pittman and some of the other Quakers down.  GC is not as deep (obviously since they lost the big 3 from last year) as they have been in the past.  Nova, I would be interested to hear your take from the commentary you listened to or perspective from someone else in attendance.

[hsctigers2002]

Guilford did a good job keeping Harrison in check when he was in the post. When he had smaller guys on him, they were fronting him, but the help defender was just on the other side of the lane to deny the lob pass. That helped cut down on the penetration as well, which Ru White particularly excels in, but the Tigers beat that D by draining outside jumpers and threes all night - they went 11-25 on threes. Harrison also stayed outside a lot and made two threes. He didn't begin to do any damage down low until late in the game when they stopped fronting him.

Defensively, the Tigers had Ru White on Pittman nearly the entire game as White is the designated defensive stopper and his length and quickness clearly was making it difficult for Pittman to get off good shots - a theme that is becoming common now as Ru is one of the top perimeter defenders in the ODAC if not the best. Ru blocked two of his shots, one a three pointer and one an emphatic denial on a midrange floater. They were either switching on every screen or the other defender was hedging to help prevent Pittman from getting good looks. Of course, Pittman only needs a millisecond of freedom to get off his shot, so he was going to get his points regardless, but the defense helped prevent him from shooting Guilford into a W.

Pittman didn't really get much help from his teammates on the offensive end, a bit surprising considering all the attention devoted towards Pittman. Akinsola had 10 points, including a dunk, but the post D on him forced him into mostly tough shots. Brad Monroe had eight, but he did all his damage off offensive rebounds, which were fairly limited in the second-half.

[hasanova]

HSC still has a shot at #5.  If they beat Macon they should have it.  If Randolph loses to LC they should have it.  The only way they don't get #5 is if they lose at Macon and Randolph beats LC which is totally possible.  

Pittman was very impressive tonight for GC.  He had almost no help while George did not have to carry the load.  There were four Tigers in double figures and that is when they are dangerous.  Early in the season it was the Harrison George show.  Now the other guys are stepping up and taking some of the pressure off of George to score.  The Tigers also hit a lot of threes tonight as GC attempted to clog the lane.  I was not disappointed by the effort of GC.  They all played hard.  The Tigers game plan appeared to be to run on GC because they advanced the ball quickly trying to put pressure on the Quakers transition defense.  I think it may also have been to wear Pittman and some of the other Quakers down.  GC is not as deep (obviously since they lost the big 3 from last year) as they have been in the past.  Nova, I would be interested to hear your take from the commentary you listened to or perspective from someone else in attendance.

I actually watched about three-quarters of the game with the video feed from HSC.  I knew tonight would be tough at Sydney, especially with the Tigers so hot at the end of the season.  Pittman is amazing, but one man (usually) can't carry a team on the road - and he's often double-teamed and gets the other team's best defender.  Eight points from Monroe is about right - and he certainly rebounded well.  Stephenson's been sick for several weeks, so I wasn't counting on many minutes or points there.  Akinsola, Lowder and Stafford have to combine for 25-30 for the Quakers to have much of a chance in most games.  To tell you the truth, I think Josh should have shot more - in many cases he gets off a better shot than some of the other guys who try to put up shots off-balance in the lane.

That seven minute stretch to end the first-half is what did us in.  HSC couldn't miss on threes!   Congratulations to the Tigers, however, they deserved to win!

[hsctigers2002]

hasanova,
Yes, at one point, H-SC made three consecutive three pointers from the right corner! I agree with Pittman shooting more, he had some open looks from three but they were several feet behind the line - which I know he can make, I've seen it on youtube! I won't name any names, but a couple of the people I saw playing for the Quakers really should never be shooting the basketball unless it's a wide open layup or a tip-in.

[algernon]

Seeding for the tournament is a little clearer now:

#1 - VWC or RMC
#2 - VWC, RMC, or EMU
#3 - VWC or EMU
#4 - Guilford
#5 - HSC or Randolph
#6 - HSC or Randolph
#7 - Lynchburg / Roanoke
#8 - Lynchburg / Roanoke
#9 - W&L / Bridgewater
#10 - W&L / Bridgewater
#11 - Emory & Henry

So Emory & Henry will travel to Randolph or HSC, and the other two play-in games will have #10 W&L/BC traveling to #7 RC/LC and #9 W&L/BC traveling to #8 RC/LC.

[algernon]

Tie-Breakers:

VWC/RMC = VWC

VWC / EMU = EMU

RMC / EMU = RMC

VWC/RMC/EMU tie at 12-4:  1) VWC, 2) RMC, 3) EMU

EMU/ GC (if GC wins Sat.) = Guilford (on points: their wins are vs. same opponents, except that GC had a win over VWC; EMU had a win over HSC)

HSC/ Randolph = HSC, unless both lose on Sat., VWC loses to E&H @ Emory, and EMU defeats Guilford.  In that case, the win HSC has over VWC would equal the win that Randolph has over EMU, because both VWC and EMU would have 12-4 records and an equal number of points.  If there's such an unlikely set of game outcomes (4 of the 5 ODAC games have to go a particular way), then HSC could still get the tiebreaker if they "win the coin toss".  (There's already been a random draw of numbers by the teams, but I have no idea what it was.)

Lynchburg / Roanoke = Roanoke

W&L / Bridgewater = Bridgewater

[hasanova]

Seeding for the tournament is a little clearer now:

#1 - VWC or RMC
#2 - VWC, RMC, or EMU
#3 - VWC or EMU
#4 - EMU or Guilford
#5 - HSC or Randolph
#6 - HSC or Randolph
#7 - Lynchburg / Roanoke
#8 - Lynchburg / Roanoke
#9 - W&L / Bridgewater
#10 - W&L / Bridgewater
#11 - Emory & Henry

So Emory & Henry will travel to Randolph or HSC, and the other two play-in games will have #10 W&L/BC traveling to #7 RC/LC and #9 W&L/BC traveling to #8 RC/LC.

Thanks for putting this together.  You only have one option for the Quakers (4th) - can't they still possibly finish 3rd?

[hsctigers2002]

Algernon,
The tiebreaker, if H2H doesn't work, is no longer who beat the highest ranked opponent. The ODAC changed it when they went to the unbalanced schedule, I believe. Now the entire tiebreak system is more complicated, given the secondary tiebreaker rule, as provided by the ODAC manual (page 51):

• (2) If the tied teams played each other twice in the regular season and split their games, then each team's wins in the conference will be compared using a modified five-point tie-breaker. This step will assign a point total for each victory in the conference season – tallying an overall score for all victories during the season. The team with the better point total when evaluating all victories in the conference season will be the higher seed.
• a. When assigning point totals for victories in the league (assigning the five-point system) teams will be awarded for wins over each team in the conference. Possibilities are 2-0, 1-0, 1-1, 0-1, 0-2 against all possible opponents. Teams are assigned a point total equal to a reversal of the field (11through 1 x5). Thus, a win over the top finishing team is worth 55 (11x5) points, 50 (10x5) for second place and so on. In comparing match-ups the maximum points earned will be no greater than the point value assigned to the team regardless of number of victories for the matchup (example: Assign BC 35 pts. RC goes 2-0 vs BC, LC goes 1-0, and EMU goes 1 1. RC gets 35, LC gets 35 since 2-0=1-0, and EMU gets 17.5).
• b. When arriving at another set of tied teams take the possible points for the places and divide by the number of teams tied to assign a point total for a victory over one of the tied teams. For example – two teams are tied for first and second (55+50=105). A win over each is worth 52.5 apiece (105/2).

The third tiebreaker is who beat the team highest in the standings (not seed), and then continuing on down until someone gains an advantage. In previous years, this was the #2 tiebreaker rule, but now it's #3. Also, 2-0 = 1-0 for this rule, just like in rule #2 that I have above.