MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[78rmc]

Another RTD article:

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/sports/2011/mar/04/ncaa-chair-blames-communication-r-mc-scheduling-er-ar-883385/

If we make it through this weekend, maybe RMC should get the sectional, even if they would not have otherwise.

[hasanova]

Q. What do NCAA bound #6 RMC, #10 VWC, #13 St. Mary's (MD), NC Wesleyan and #21 Manchester have in common?

A.  They all lost to Guilford in 2010-11.

If you want to talk about schools in the "Top 61", I'm sure there are some other teams sitting at home this spring.

[78rmc]

RTD link:

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/sports/2011/mar/04/TDSPORT04-r-mc-men-begin-quest-for-division-iii-ti-ar-882090/

Unbelievable, makes me wonder about NCAA's commitment to DIII.  Do you think a mistake like this would be made in DI, heck no.  They simply could care less about DIII.  Now, if they would just admit their mistake about EMU.

RMC win out, and make their mistake our win!

Having listened to Dave Martin on Hoopsville, I'll need to eat some crow and retract these statements.  Seems like an honest mistake, and one that he and the committee truly regrets.

[Pat Coleman]

And honestly, I really don't think it's the men's committee's fault. They had been given the information and there was no reason to doubt it.

[78rmc]

And honestly, I really don't think it's the men's committee's fault. They had been given the information and there was no reason to doubt it.

Exactly, if anyone's at fault it's the women's committee.  Or you could look at it this way, we're a victim of our own success for having two teams in the NCAAs.

Regardless, RMC, win the games and move on to next weekend, maybe in Ashland.

[FISHTANKFAN]

 No matter what the ODAC does, even winning a National title, two runner-up titles, final four berths etc, they still get very little respect as a conference.    RMC has the best chance to show Division 3 what the ODAC is all about.  I hope they go all the way!!!!  This is RMC's year.  Go Jackets! Hopefully the Marlins can knock out some of the competition on the other side of the bracket.  Go Marlins!

[algernon]

Q. What do NCAA bound #6 RMC, #10 VWC, #13 St. Mary's (MD), NC Wesleyan and #21 Manchester have in common.

A.  They all lost to Guilford in 2010-11.

If you want to talk about schools in the "Top 61", I'm sure there are some other teams sitting at home this spring.

That the Quakers are 5-0 against NCAA Tournament participants is very impressive!  Guilford may not be among the Top 3 in the country this year, as they were in 2009-2010, but they're certainly among the "Top 61".

Another riddle ....  

• Q. What do #10 VWC, Ferrum, North Carolina Wesleyan, and Medaille have in common?
• A.  Each won at least 20 games, but lost to Hampden-Sydney in 2010-11.

I have no doubt that any of the ODAC's top 6 seeds could win at least a game or two in the NCAA tournament this year.

[hasanova]

No matter what the ODAC does, even winning a National title, two runner-up titles, final four berths etc, they still get very little respect as a conference.    RMC has the best chance to show Division 3 what the ODAC is all about.  I hope they go all the way!!!!  This is RMC's year.  Go Jackets! Hopefully the Marlins can knock out some of the competition on the other side of the bracket.  Go Marlins!

I'm not sure I agree with your first sentence.  I think we get a fair amount of respect within DIII.  Perhaps even so much that some of our schools can't fill their schedules with worthy opponents. 

[donho]

 Now Now Nova!

[hsctigers2002]

This is the last I'll say about this, I guess:

1)  EMU should have been ranked ahead of Ferrum, given that their in-region Win% (16-5, .762) was close enough to Ferrum's (20-5, .800) that other factors would be given consideration.  The Royals' SOS (.499) was higher than Ferrum's (.471), their Win% against Regionally Ranked teams (2-3, .400) was higher than Ferrum's (.250, 1-3).  Plus, they had beaten Ferrum in a head-to-head matchup.

Four more in-region wins is significant.

[algernon]

Randolph-Macon is (hopefully) in the process of defeating the Mid-Atlantic's 8th-ranked team, Alvernia (18-6) ..... carrying a 29-23 lead into the locker room at halftime.

[hsctigers2002]

Shenandoah looking for a new men's basketball coach. Very interested to see who they hire. It better be a heck of a coach with their move to the ODAC for basketball for the 2012-2013 season. Only going to have one a little over a year to get that ship turned around up there in Winchester.

[algernon]

This is the last I'll say about this, I guess:

1)  EMU should have been ranked ahead of Ferrum, given that their in-region Win% (16-5, .762) was close enough to Ferrum's (20-5, .800) that other factors would be given consideration.  The Royals' SOS (.499) was higher than Ferrum's (.471), their Win% against Regionally Ranked teams (2-3, .400) was higher than Ferrum's (.250, 1-3).  Plus, they had beaten Ferrum in a head-to-head matchup.

Four more in-region wins is significant.

hsctigers2002 .... It's apparent from the South Region rankings that In-Region Win% is only one of a number of variables that were considered.  After VWC and RMC, the rest of the teams (#3 through #8) all have an In-Region Win% between .750 and .800 ...... and it's easy to see that their In-Region Win% seems to have no correlation whatsoever to whether they are ranked as high as #3 or as low as #8:

Rank	In-Region Win%
#1 VWC	.852
#2 RMC	.857
#3 McM	.769
#4 MH-B	.750
#5 TX-D	.800
#6 FC	.800
#7 EMU	.762
#8 NCW	.800

As you can see, Mary Hardin-Baylor is ranked above Texas-Dallas, Ferrum, and NC Wesleyan, even though Mary Hardin-Baylor's In-Region record of 21-7 is clearly worse than the other teams' records of 20-5, 20-5, and 16-4.  It's even a worse Win% than EMU's record of 16-5.

If you look at all of the numbers (including SOS, In-Region against ranked opponents, etc.) for #3 through #8, it's a mess ..... but I think a number of us have made a good case for why EMU should have been ranked at least above Ferrum at #6 .... and possibly as high as #3.

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1:13 to go   RMC down by 4 against Alvernia

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30 sec to go  RMC down by 2