MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[ladyeagle]

haha. or rather ATOY and VOY (Athletic Trainer of the year and Videographer of the year).  I was filling in for the book keeper at Roanoke. 

...and at Bridgewater we've decided my new official title is "Multimedia Director" because I do much more than film...so maybe I'm the MDOY.  Take your pic. 

[mybleedinghands]

haha. or rather ATOY and VOY (Athletic Trainer of the year and Videographer of the year).  I was filling in for the book keeper at Roanoke. 

...and at Bridgewater we've decided my new official title is "Multimedia Director" because I do much more than film...so maybe I'm the MDOY.  Take your pic. 

what else do you do other than film?

[ODACfan1]

Why would anyone question the fact the Bob Johnson is a COY candidate.  While Macedo has done a great job, isnt this pretty much the same team that won the ODAC tournament with the exception of Peter Warren.  Even so Tyler Fantin has filled that role admirably.  Wasn't VWC supposed to win the league?  In most cases this would indeed merit Macedo as COY.  But lets take a look at what Bob Johnson has done this year.  They started out 3-8, lost Lance Reasback at Christmas.  All they did was go 9-3 from that point on.  Lets not take away what COY really means.  Who has done the best coaching job.  For my money it has to be Bob Johnson.  You could argue that the development of Ben Strong and the Guilford Quakers could merit some COY votes.

[justafan02]

I agree that Johnson should get some consideration, but Macedo needs to win this thing.  I mean sure he was picked to win it all, but preseason stuff doesn't mean crap.  Adair is POY.  Give me a "bad" game he has had this year???  Still waiting.....  Outside of that I want to say that the conversation on this board today has been top notch. 

PS:  I did goof on the sumpter thing....im a moron.

[ODACfan1]

      I would agree that Brandon Adair is the clear favor for POY.  The only other guy I would say that is in the running for it would be Troy Kasse, but he has cooled off as of late.  The last game between Sydney and Guilford put Strong out of the running.  In saything that players are players and Jason Sager and Clay Michael deserve a look as well just because they come to play every night. 

1st team:
Brandon Adair
Clay Michael
Jason Sager
Troy Kasse
Ben Strong

2nd team:
Marques Fitch
Phillip Hawley
Justin Wansley
Jared Butler
Ton Ton Balenga

Honorable Mention:
Korey Townsend
Andy Albright
Mike Edwards
Korey Whitting

POY: Brandon Adair
FOY: Camillo Weinz
COY: Bob Johnson

[hasanova]

Someone will have to explain to me what I did or said that deserved a "smite" today.  In fact, I have no idea why I got the last two.   

[FISHTANKFAN]

ODACfan1...you have got to be kidding me..Bob Johnson has taken his team from a .522% team last year  to a .522 % team this year, and you think he should be coach of the year?..What has he accomplished? MACEDO  has improved his record every year, he recruits well, he obviously knows how to coach the players and has an 18 game winning streak and a 20-3 overall  record so far.     So you feel just because he was supposed to win this year he should be overlooked for doing his job better than any other coach has done ? If I were a loyal fan of ANY other team in the ODAC  I would still vote for MACEDO because no other coach comes close to what he has accomplished this year.  Why was Mike Rhodes voted COY for 2-3 years for doing such a great job with RMC?  Because he did what he was supposed to do? and Yet you dismiss Macedo for doing the same?.. How do you suppose Macedo accomplished winning so many games this year? LUCK? By recruiting well, by teaching and coaching and demanding the best  from his players.  He did his homework. So to be overlooked again for doing his job better than any other coach  this year would be an insult to all coaches. Macedo started out 2-3 then went on an 18 game win streak.  I believe this outmatches Bob Johnson's  9-3 streak.  Nothing against Bob, he may be a good guy, but COY he is not.

[FISHTANKFAN]

 Tigerfan....I think what upset me most about your post was the fact that you wrote off VWC in the NCAA"S completely, giving them NO chance of winning.  Just getting a bid to the "dance" is a great accomplishment and worthy of praise and encouragement.  Hoping you are wrong about VWC or ANY team from the ODAC isn't quite the same thing.  VWC is playing better than last years team.  They are more experienced, more confident, and overall a better balanced team.  No one gave them a chance last year either and they at least made it to the second round which is respectable considering it was their first time.  This is a different year and a bit different team and Maybe they won't do well but I'll sure as hell believe that they will.  Not sure if you remember the 1980 olympic hockey team.  They were written off before the games began, only someone forgot to tell them  they had no chance and they believed they could beat the Russians.  The rest is history.   I simply choose to believe that ANY ODAC team has the same chance as any other team to win the NCAA championship, realistically or not.  Your glass is half empty, mine is half full.   Good Luck to ALL the teams in the ODAC tourney and the NCAA'S. 

[mybleedinghands]

Tigerfan....I think what upset me most about your post was the fact that you wrote off VWC in the NCAA"S completely, giving them NO chance of winning.  Just getting a bid to the "dance" is a great accomplishment and worthy of praise and encouragement.  Hoping you are wrong about VWC or ANY team from the ODAC isn't quite the same thing.  VWC is playing better than last years team.  They are more experienced, more confident, and overall a better balanced team.  No one gave them a chance last year either and they at least made it to the second round which is respectable considering it was their first time.  This is a different year and a bit different team and Maybe they won't do well but I'll sure as hell believe that they will.  Not sure if you remember the 1980 olympic hockey team.  They were written off before the games began, only someone forgot to tell them  they had no chance and they believed they could beat the Russians.  The rest is history.   I simply choose to believe that ANY ODAC team has the same chance as any other team to win the NCAA championship, realistically or not.  Your glass is half empty, mine is half full.   Good Luck to ALL the teams in the ODAC tourney and the NCAA'S. 

being so optimistic only sets yourself up for disappointment!

[yj424]

no way ben strong should be a candidate for POY.....I think it remains in the hands of Adair, Wansley and Sager....Once again tops in the ODAC (with strong) but much better players than strong as they prove with Sager and Wansley's inside outside game, and Adair's ability to score, reb. and lead his team to an unreal record......

Speaking of Wansley, I didn't see him listed in the stats from last night's game, so I'm guessing he did not play.  Wonder what's going on with that?

[justafan02]

I say let's just play out the rest of the season and see where the Marlins go.  Heck, I want them to win it all, but there is a lot of basketball to play before that is even a thought.  I think the focus should be on winning the ODAC tournament because that will not be an easy task.  There will be 7 other basketball teams there able to beat the Marlins on any given night.

Statistics gurus:  How well has an ODAC team that has won the conference tournament back to back (no jinx, just wondering) faired in the NCAA'S???

Question:  IF VWC wins out, do they get a first round bye?  How many games do they get to play at the Beach?

[algernon]

Statistics gurus:  How well has an ODAC team that has won the conference tournament back to back (no jinx, just wondering) faired in the NCAA'S???

Here's some back-to-backs:

HSC won tournament in 1997:  Lost in 2nd Round.
HSC won tournament in 1998:  Lost in Sweet Sixteen.
HSC won tournament in 1999:  Lost in National Championship Game.

HSC won tournament in 2001:  Lost in 2nd Round.
HSC won tournament in 2002:  Lost in 2nd Round.

Question:  IF VWC wins out, do they get a first round bye?  How many games do they get to play at the Beach?

They almost certainly will not get a first-round bye.  Given the expansion of the tournament field to 58 teams, only 6 teams in the country will get a first-round bye this year.  However, if they win out and go into the tournament with a 25-3 record, then I think they will definitely get 2 home games at the beach (March 2 & 4) and should have an outside chance at getting a Sectional.

[tigerfanalso]

FishtankFan

I see your point but I think you are missing my point. My post have been in response to those declaring the ODAC to be a better conference now than it was in 2003. My feeling is the way to measure the strength of any conference is how it performs on a national basis and how many teams from a given conference gain/earn national respect. In 2003 two ODAC teams did very well nationally and I don't see that happening this year, therefore I don't feel the conference is as strong. VWC should get in for sure and maybe RMC and that is with an expanded field. In 2003 with only 48 teams going to the NCAA's there was no question at the end of the regular season the ODAC was going to have two teams in and both of those teams performed very well. My next point was/is that having seen VWC play I do think they are a very good team BUT not as strong as the HSC and RMC teams in 2003. I do agree/never have disagreed the ODAC is better in 2006 from the bottom up but I think it is weaker at the top. You don't believe this and I will not state it again, I hope VWC and RMC(if they get in) do very well in the NCAA's and that I hope my assessment regarding the 2006 VWC team is wrong. I want any/all ODAC teams to perform well come tournament time because it helps every school in the ODAC with recruiting. Nothing would please me more than to see an ODAC team make a run into the sectionals/final four. I'd be in Roanoke to pull for that team. Maybe VWC is the next version of the 1980 USA Hockey Team, only time will tell... If that happens, great and that is why I always end my comments by saying I HOPE I'M WRONG. I guess you don't really believe that... but it just happens to be true.

[3sdown]

ODAC Posters-

My opinion...And Coach Macedo go ahead, place your hand on that mouse, click on the print button, have your manager round up a pair of scissors, have him cut the post out, take it to the copier and blow it up by 50%, and then place it on the board in your locker room! (Just make sure 3sdown gets some placed on the board as well!)

VWC will not win the ODAC Tournamnent...They will win their next 2 games against BC and EMU and go into the ODAC Tournament with a 20 game win streak.  Either in the Semi-Finals or Finals of the ODAC Tournament they will relent to the pressure and bow out of the ODAC Tournament.

And then they will receive a Pool C Bid to the NCAA Tournament.  Receive a bye in the first round and loose in the 2nd Round of the NCAA Tournament at home.

I do not despise VWC, but just have a sense that this will be the events that will happen...Thus, I wanted to be the first to say this...And if I am wrong then more power to VWC and Macedo.  

Additionally, Macedo should be COY and Adair should be POY (partially due to the unfortunate injury to Wansley).    

[Tigerfan]

Winning any NCAA tournament game is a great accomplishment and a huge plus for any program.  Getting past the Sweet Sixteen has been extremely difficult for South Region teams and is the mark of an excellent South team.  Getting to the Sweet Sixteen in the past has required winning one or two games, usually at home if the team has a good record, against other South teams or maybe against a team from another close region.  Again, that's a good accomplishment, but the degree of difficulty goes up tremendously when your team runs up against the teams from the West, Mid-West and Great Lakes.  The WIAC teams/schools in particular are very different from D3 programs around here.  I am sure that most of the WIAC schools would be very comfortable playing in the D1 Big South.
I think a mark of a great South region team is beating the champion of the WIAC, CCIW, NCAC, OAC, MIAA, or the MIAC.  Doing it on back to back nights as H-SC did in 99 and 03 was very special.   Getting the home court advantage is key to having those great runs.