MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[mr_divac]

Tuesday, February 14
Bridgewater at Randolph-Macon (bonus: 142)
Eastern Mennonite at Virginia Wesleyan
Emory and Henry at Roanoke (bonus: 212)
Hampden-Sydney at Lynchburg
Washington and Lee at Guilford

sitting in a tie for fourth i have followed GC's path this year, watch out though, we'll both be trouble for people in the tourney!!

[steelyglen]

OK guru's the regular season is winding down...Only one night of games left so get your "pick'ems" in today or early tomorrow...remember there are 2 bonus pick'ems this week ..don't miss out on those 10 points!

Tournament format...I"ve spent all of 30 seconds thinking about this and here is how it will work...I think...

There will be 2 eight player brackets...however, I will seed the brackets as if it were one 16 player bracket...to keep the brackets equitable and fair. Everyone will pick the quarterfinal games against their opponent , picking the actual score of the game...one point for picking the the winner, winner advances! If both are correct (or incorrect)the tiebreaker will be total points in that game, closest to the total score gets the point and advances. If that doesn't do it actual score of the winner will be the tiebreaker, if that doesn't solve it then actual score of the loser. If it is still tied after that you both lose and my name goes into the bracket and I advance  . One and done just like the real thing. Same for the semis for the remaining 8  players! Same the finals for the remaining 4 players!

That gets us to the final 2 for the championship. I will add up the total scores of all of the tournament games and compare them to the total scores picked by the two finalists. Closest to the total points is the champion. It will trickle down to the tiebreakers just like in the earlier rounds...so it possible that I could be win the tournament and not pick anything right...Yeah that sounds like a plan to me!

Make sense? It sounds good in my head! Any thoughts or comments? I will seed players on Tuesday night and announce the tournament brackets on Wednesday. Remember gurus...this moves fast once the tournament starts. If you don't see yourself participating then let me know and I can move another guru into your spot.  Forfeits are final once that respective game begins!

The regular season is nice but just like the ODAC the "GURU" champion is the tournament champion!

Thoughts?

[narch]

steely - thanks for the bonus picks...tourney format sounds like a winner

[jdubyadubya]

GC
HSC
RMC(137)
RC(175)
VWC

[Brian Hamilton]

Tuesday, February 14
Bridgewater at Randolph-Macon (bonus: 150)
Eastern Mennonite at Virginia Wesleyan
Emory and Henry at Roanoke (bonus: 198)
Hampden-Sydney at Lynchburg
Washington and Lee at Guilford

[algernon]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that H-SC has to win to clinch the 3rd seed.  If the Tigers lose at LC, which they did last year, and E&H wins, they would both finish 10-8, but the Wasps would have a win over R-MC.  If this is the case, at least the Tigers control their own destiny.

If HSC loses to Lynchburg and EHC defeats Roanoke and Guilford defeats W&L, then HSC wins the 3-way tie-breaker, given their 3-1 record against Guilford and EHC, compared to Guilford's 2-2 record against the other two and EHC's 1-3 record against the other two.  HSC would be #3, Guilford would be #4, and EHC would be #5.

In a second scenario, if HSC loses to Lynchburg and EHC beats Roanoke and W&L upsets Guilford at Guilford, then there's just a two-way tie between HSC and EHC.

HSC has these wins and points that E&H does not have:

VWC (50)
2 wins over Guilford (2 X 30 = 60)

TOTAL = 110 points

E&H has these wins and points that HSC doesn't have:

RMC (45)
A second win over Roanoke (25)
A second win over EMU (15-20, depending on Tuesday)

TOTAL = 85-90 points

So, if I've got it right, then HSC has already secured the #3 seed.  The Tigers will probably play Roanoke, although there is still a possibility that Roanoke, with a win over EHC, could win the tie-breaker and get the #5 seed, leaving the Tigers with a game against the Wasps.

[justafan02]

Once again, trying to hold a Marlin down from winning it all with these bonuses.  AHHHHH!!!!

RMC Vs. BC:   125

E&H Vs. RC:   183

[jdubyadubya]

Watch Fitch tomorrow night at the Batten Center. Last year against Bridgewater(last home game) Warren needed 28 for 1,000 and got them! Should be fun at the beach on Tuesday night. Good luck Marques.

[algernon]

Tuesday, February 14
Bridgewater at Randolph-Macon (bonus: 130)
Eastern Mennonite at Virginia Wesleyan
Emory and Henry at Roanoke (bonus: 194)
Hampden-Sydney at Lynchburg
Washington and Lee at Guilford

[tigerfanalso]

I was not able to get to Ashland this past Saturday. I'd be interested in hearing from a follow poster about the game. Sounds like HSC pretty much got manhandled. What was a great rival game for so long doesn't appear to be competitive any longer as Macon has two easy wins this year and I think have won the last FIVE games between the two schools. What is going on ?

[Jacketlawyer]

I was not able to get to Ashland this past Saturday. I'd be interested in hearing from a follow poster about the game. Sounds like HSC pretty much got manhandled. What was a great rival game for so long doesn't appear to be competitive any longer as Macon has two easy wins this year and I think have won the last FIVE games between the two schools. What is going on ?

Scroll down to read tigerfan's analysis. I wasn't able to make it either, due to the weather.  I realize this is a hoops board, and that we've won 5 in a row against H-S, but we're nothing when talking football and lacrosse.  We're pretty much towelboys for you guys in those two areas.

I don't like it but it's true.  I can be critical of my own team!

[tigerfanalso]

JacketLawyer

You know the deal, we want our cake and eat it too.... must beat Macon in  f'ball, b'ball and lax.  That's a great year... but I guess we'll have to lower our expectations once December hits the calendar each year ...

Good luck to all in the ODAC tourney and condolences to those that didn't make it!!!!!

[algernon]

tigerfanalso .... No one likes to lose 5 in a row.  However, I think that "manhandled" and referring to the rivalry as not competitive any longer is a bit extreme.  Five-in-a-row has occurred because last year's Tigers were without a single returning starter from the 2003-04 team that beat the Yellow Jackets in 2 out of 3 games.  Monroe, Randall, Holman, Willson, and Thompson had all graduated and the team was rebuilding and did extremely well to develop and finish the season as they did, almost beating the Yellow Jackets in the ODAC semi-final.  This year's Tigers have matured but are inconsistent -- playing great games against Virginia Wesleyan at the Beach and against Guilford at home, but losing to an excellent Jackets team twice so far.  They were only 7 behind with 5 minutes to play on Saturday and then folded; things may be different on Sunday, if the two teams play another one at 4pm.  Time will tell.

[78rmc]

I was not able to get to Ashland this past Saturday. I'd be interested in hearing from a follow poster about the game. Sounds like HSC pretty much got manhandled. What was a great rival game for so long doesn't appear to be competitive any longer as Macon has two easy wins this year and I think have won the last FIVE games between the two schools. What is going on ?

I agree with Algernon (never thought that would happen) that the games have been closer than the scores indicate.  The starting five match up very well.  It's the depth of the RMC bench that has been the difference, with RMC's bench outscoring HSC's by 36-17 in this game and 23-10 in the previous game.  With freshmen Carlson and Irmer contributing 14 pts apiece on Saturday, HSC has not had an answer for the RMC bench.  This rivalry has a tendency to swing back and forth, I'm just enjoying it now, but I know things will change.

[ODACfan1]

  What happens in theses scenarios:

1-Sydney loses, Guilford wins, and Emory wins.  Please explain the tiebreaker in that situation.  I would think that Sydnet would be third because they beat guilford twice and Emory once.  Guilford would then be 4th because they beat Emory twice, with Emory being 5th.

2-Emory loses, Guilford wins, and Sydney wins.  That would make for a tie breaker between Roanoke and Emory.  I would think that Emory would win that because they beat Macon once this year, the highest seed either teams has beaten.  Am I right in that assumption?

3- If Bridgewater and EMU tie for 8th who wins the tiebreaker there?