MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[algernon]

  What happens in theses scenarios:

1-Sydney loses, Guilford wins, and Emory wins.  Please explain the tiebreaker in that situation.  I would think that Sydnet would be third because they beat guilford twice and Emory once.  Guilford would then be 4th because they beat Emory twice, with Emory being 5th.

2-Emory loses, Guilford wins, and Sydney wins.  That would make for a tie breaker between Roanoke and Emory.  I would think that Emory would win that because they beat Macon once this year, the highest seed either teams has beaten.  Am I right in that assumption?

3- If Bridgewater and EMU tie for 8th who wins the tiebreaker there?

1 - That's right.

2 - Emory would win a 2-way tie-breaker with Roanoke.  Regardless of how the other games play out tomorrow, there is no way EHC can end up with fewer points than Roanoke.  While it's not determined directly by which team beats the highest seed, the win over Macon gives EHC 45 points and that was a big enough win to give them the #5 seed in the event of a two-way tie with Roanoke.

[oldfish]

Any opinions on the next D3hoops top 25 poll and where the South teams will be placed?

ALSO.....Pat.....Where is the love for VWC on the front page.  Can we get a little more coverage for 19 in a row?

Thanks for all that you do Pat!

[oldfish]

I want to preface this next post with the fact that I know the rankings dont mean anything except to us Alumni and fans.  With that being said, do you think either VWC or Miss. college can make it into the top 10?  Out of the teams ranked in the last poll from 10-19, only VWC and Miss. have not had a loss.

Also, how helpful are ranking when it comes to recruiting?  Do you think that a top 10 ranking for VWC this year or RMC/HSC in the past has helped steer kids to those programs.  I have my opinions on this but would welcome feedback from other posters.

[hasanova]

Since the ODAC currently has ten schools that compete in men's basketball, has there ever been any consideration for a conference tournament that includes all ten teams?  You guys probably already know how it would work:  Seeds 1-6 would get a first round bye and the last four teams would play on the first day with #7 versus # 10 and #8 versus #9.  The winners of these two games would then join Seeds 1-6 in the Quarterfinals with the winner of the #7/10 matchup playing #2 and the winner of the #8/9 matchup playing #1.  I realize that first day might not be a big fan draw in Salem, so #7 & # 8 could host on their home courts on say, Thursday, before they move to the Quarterfinals in Salem on Saturday.   Maybe the NCAA or the ODAC imposes a limit on the number of games, but I'd just like to see every team get a shot in the postseason.

[tigerfanalso]

78rmc

Thanks for your response... I did see the game at HSC this year and I thought the game was more lopsided than the final score indicated. I'm glad to hear the game Saturday was fairly well contested until the final five or six minutes. If RMC's bench is beating up on the HSC bench as indicated, sounds like it is time for Coach Smith to hit the recruiting trail and reload with some talent. HSC had three players either quit or transfer since last year and the team is really short those three players in the rotation. The lack of numbers has really hurt this years team. Good luck in the tourney and hope to see more competitive games next year. Losing by 15(twice in one year) really hurts.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Since the ODAC currently has ten schools that compete in men's basketball, has there ever been any consideration for a conference tournament that includes all ten teams?  You guys probably already know how it would work:  Seeds 1-6 would get a first round bye and the last four teams would play on the first day with #7 versus # 10 and #8 versus #9.  The winners of these two games would then join Seeds 1-6 in the Quarterfinals with the winner of the #7/10 matchup playing #2 and the winner of the #8/9 matchup playing #1.  I realize that first day might not be a big fan draw in Salem, so #7 & # 8 could host on their home courts on say, Thursday, before they move to the Quarterfinals in Salem on Saturday.   Maybe the NCAA or the ODAC imposes a limit on the number of games, but I'd just like to see every team get a shot in the postseason.

Agreed.  Doesn't the ACC do that?  Gives the Clemsons and Florida States a little hope.

[hasanova]

Since the ODAC currently has ten schools that compete in men's basketball, has there ever been any consideration for a conference tournament that includes all ten teams?  You guys probably already know how it would work:  Seeds 1-6 would get a first round bye and the last four teams would play on the first day with #7 versus # 10 and #8 versus #9.  The winners of these two games would then join Seeds 1-6 in the Quarterfinals with the winner of the #7/10 matchup playing #2 and the winner of the #8/9 matchup playing #1.  I realize that first day might not be a big fan draw in Salem, so #7 & # 8 could host on their home courts on say, Thursday, before they move to the Quarterfinals in Salem on Saturday.   Maybe the NCAA or the ODAC imposes a limit on the number of games, but I'd just like to see every team get a shot in the postseason.

Agreed.  Doesn't the ACC do that?  Gives the Clemsons and Florida States a little hope.

Yes, the ACC does (12 teams).  A couple of other 12-team conferences such as the SEC and the Big 12 also do it this way.  In these leagues, the #1 & #2 seeds in each six-team division get a first round bye.  I don't see why it wouldn't work and I want to see each team get to play at least one game and say they had their chance on the court.  I know, I know, they all had their chance in the regular season to finish in the top 8, but Americans love the underdog scenario.  lol

[Jacketlawyer]

I'd like to remind everyone that there will be a D3 posters Happy Hour at the All-Sports Cafe this Saturday, between games 2 and 3.  The All-Sports Cafe is on Grandin Avenue in Roanoke and is located about 10 minutes from the Salem Civic Center. 8)

We had directions and a picture of the A-SC a while back.  Most everyone already knows about it, but this is merely a reminder.

[78rmc]

Kid, could you start a poll for COY and/or FOY?

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Kid, could you start a poll for COY and/or FOY?

Sure, I can do FOY for the next three-or-so days, then do a COY after that.

Give me the handful of FOY candidates and I'll throw it up there.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Yes, the ACC does (12 teams).  A couple of other 12-team conferences such as the SEC and the Big 12 also do it this way.  In these leagues, the #1 & #2 seeds in each six-team division get a first round bye.  I don't see why it wouldn't work and I want to see each team get to play at least one game and say they had their chance on the court.  I know, I know, they all had their chance in the regular season to finish in the top 8, but Americans love the underdog scenario.  lol

I agree.  LC and W&L would have had a good shot at beating the 7- and 8-seeded teams this year in the tournament.

One disadvantage (in the ODAC scenario) would be that the top two seeds would have to prepare for two opponents for their quarterfinal match-up, whereas the 3, 4, 5 and 6 seeds would only have to prepare for one (seeing that they would know who they were playing by Tuesday).

[FISHTANKFAN]

 The week 11 Poll is out and VWC has moved up to number 12.  Congrats to the Marlins!!

[hasanova]

Yes, the ACC does (12 teams).  A couple of other 12-team conferences such as the SEC and the Big 12 also do it this way.  In these leagues, the #1 & #2 seeds in each six-team division get a first round bye.  I don't see why it wouldn't work and I want to see each team get to play at least one game and say they had their chance on the court.  I know, I know, they all had their chance in the regular season to finish in the top 8, but Americans love the underdog scenario.  lol

I agree.  LC and W&L would have had a good shot at beating the 7- and 8-seeded teams this year in the tournament.

One disadvantage (in the ODAC scenario) would be that the top two seeds would have to prepare for two opponents for their quarterfinal match-up, whereas the 3, 4, 5 and 6 seeds would only have to prepare for one (seeing that they would know who they were playing by Tuesday).

That's true, but it's not like the national tournament where you may never have faced your opponent before.  In this case, you would have already faced each school twice that season and that would be helpful.

[78rmc]

Kid, could you start a poll for COY and/or FOY?

Sure, I can do FOY for the next three-or-so days, then do a COY after that.

Give me the handful of FOY candidates and I'll throw it up there.

Not sure about the other teams, but I would submit Justin Short and David Carlson from R-MC.  Maybe others could do the same for their teams.

[3sdown]

Here are my bonus picks...

Tuesday, February 14

Bridgewater at Randolph-Macon (Bonus: 139)
Eastern Mennonite at Virginia Wesleyan
Emory and Henry at Roanoke (Bonus: 191)
Hampden-Sydney at Lynchburg
Washington and Lee at Guilford