MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[CT]

Pat-

I agree with you...I didn't have an angle where I was sitting to make that determination.  It may have been the right call...Just not sure from where I was at...And I am not sure the officials were sure either from the way they reacted? 

CT-

I am sorry you have harsh feelings towards everyone tonight...Officials don't determine the outcomes of games.  I have been there on the other side many of times and I still maintain officials don't determine the outcome of games.  They are someone easy to get mad at...And that is about it!  For example, if Macon would have lost tonight to HSC b/c HSC would have scored with 20 seconds left...Macon wouldn't have lost b/c of some official, but rather b/c Pat Gill shot the ball with 25 seconds still on the shot clock or numerous other bone head plays some Macon player would have made!  How many turnovers did HSC have?  Could/should they have prevented one of those they may have scored?  Or perhaps the phantom jump ball at the beginning of the 2nd half may have lead to an easy lay up for RMC rather RMC's ball on the sideline with HSC able to get back on defense.  See, you apparently live your life off of "what ifs."

Hasanova-

Guildford looked good today although they couldn't pull the win out.  Strong is a very good player...Snipes I thought hurt you down the stretch today, but that is just one man's opinion.  And I agree too much settling for the outside shot vs. getting it into the lane. 

[CT]

well i can't figure out the quote thing or how to edit, sorry, but 3sdown said


"Or perhaps the phantom jump ball at the beginning of the 2nd half may have lead to an easy lay up for RMC rather RMC's ball on the sideline with HSC able to get back on defense.  See, you apparently live your life off of 'what ifs.'"

the phantom jump ball wouldnt' have led to an easy lay up because it bounced right up to Aaron Leweck's hand and he had the ball back, no easy lay up buddy,

[hasanova]

Hasanova-    Guilford looked good today although they couldn't pull the win out.  Strong is a very good player...Snipes I thought hurt you down the stretch today, but that is just one man's opinion.  And I agree too much settling for the outside shot vs. getting it into the lane.

Thanks.  I've watched a lot of GC's games this year and sometimes the guards don't make the best decisions.   I agree, Strong has improved a lot in his two years.  With many veterans next year, I believe Guilford will be a serious contender for the ODAC title.  It was definitely "a tale of two halves" today - things seemed so promising when we were up 37-28, but that's basketball.  VWC has a fine team, so you can never let your guard down.  C'est la vie.

[Pat Coleman]

where does the whole meathead/fitness center play into this?

Comes from here, Chris.

http://www.hsc.edu/fitness/studentstaff.html

[bumblebeetuna]

rmc fans are delusion. CT is correct in about everything he has said concerning the game. The officials had a direct bearing on the game.

1. Jump ball called when a pass was blocked went to the floor, and the
hsc player picked it back up. It was not even close to a jump ball.

2. Back court violation called when a pass hit the macon player on the
leg and bounces to the back court.

3. Shot clock violation called when a player (Edwards) shot it with 1 second on
the shot clock (he shot it from behind the basket falling out of
bounds, over the backboard and it went in)

4. Travelling violation called when a player (guill) goes up for a lay-up and
gets hacked on the arms while shooting (never came close to walking)

5. Defensive foul called on (jyuri) the baseline when the center hooked (#33) the
player and the defender never made contact.

6. Illegal touching of the ball (person coming from out of bounds
touched the ball first) after he was pulled out of bounds by the macon
player.

Give me 6 calls that macon got that changed the outcome like these did. I am not even bringing up the holding and hand checking on defense that the refs let go. If macon had those calls against them, the macon fans would be bitching just as much. It is hard to win when hsc is playing against 8 players.

[bumblebeetuna]

where does the whole meathead/fitness center play into this?

Comes from here, Chris.

http://www.hsc.edu/fitness/studentstaff.html

what does that have to do with a basketball game? I am so confused over your post. are you just trying to make stereotypes and post random websites?

[bumblebeetuna]

FWIW, that website is really out of date.

[CT]

hmmm, and not every 33 year old male who does background checks and looks up information on college students is a stalker/child molester, but there are some, shall i imply that while you look up jobs from 2 years ago? or shall we stick to odac basketball as that is what the forum was created for?

[hasanova]

Just for the record, Guilford has five national championships:  one in men's basketball, one in women's tennis and three in men's golf.  I can think of at least four NBA players who had long and successful careers.  In the proud Quaker tradition, Guilford has a storied history of patiently letting others speak their mind, even when they look and sound like a braying jackass.   Then, we say, "May Peace be with You" and turn the other cheek.  I am not that type of Quaker, but I do not wish to engage in a battle of wits, as it would be both unseemly and patently unfair to battle an unarmed neophyte.  There are what I believe to be over 800 well-written, witty and, sometimes, biting posts to back me up.  Others, however, have an accumulated dossier of about a half-dozen acerbic tantrums.  Do not cock the hammer if the gun is not loaded.      

[CT]

instead you shall resort to arrogance and a "holier than thou" attitude of which you have not backed up which leads to the conundrum, what's the difference between an arrogant ass and a jackass?

[bumblebeetuna]

i am just curious, and not flaming at all. was guilford in the NAIA and in the same conference as carson-newman, etc?

[Pat Coleman]

and I thought Quakers were nice people who just turned the other cheek

Yes, please stick to basketball.

BTW, that's brilliant -- I put my bio on the web site for a reason.

HSC had a shot in regulation to make all this whining about officials moot. Perhaps better shot selection on its last full possession would have been helpful. Going 1-for-3 from the foul line in overtime hurts, especially since the first shot came while the game was still tied.

Hey, if you're that good a team, you're not in a position to have the officials affect the game. If you can't overcome then you didn't deserve to win.

[Pat Coleman]

Hey, it's great that Hampden-Sydney students finally showed up. Too bad it was after the season ended. Whoever made the 'out of the woodwork' comment was right!

[bumblebeetuna]

when you are the inferior team, you really can't afford having 3 refs play for the other team. anybody that is disputing the refs having a direct impact on the game was either a) not at the game or b) a delusional rmc fan.

[bumblebeetuna]

Hey, it's great that Hampden-Sydney students finally showed up. Too bad it was after the season ended. Whoever made the 'out of the woodwork' comment was right!

i read the board a lot, its usually really boring and has never been worthy of being posted on.