MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[bumblebeetuna]

that is funny, i have never heard of a whistle breaking during a game. i am sure everyone was really confused when he first made the call, lol.

[mybleedinghands]

One of the funniest moments of ODAC championship basketball was during the 2nd half of the VWC/EMU game when Jerry Stone called a timeout on himself because his whistle broke! It was hilarious. The other refs had to help him fix it. too. Chants from the fans that perhaps he ought to consider retirement were greeted by a smile from the foul caller himself. 

lol, how the heck did he break his whistle?!

[tigerfanalso]

seminoletiger

Sorry the Tigers couldn't pull off the upset yesterday... sounds like it was a very competitive ball game. I appreciate the comments in your post;  I'll keep posting as I enjoy the process and the conversation. I can handle any comment and/or responses to my post... trust me.

Hopefully Coach Smith and his staff will have a successful recruiting class and begin the 06-07 season with a realistic chance of returning the Tigers to the NCAA's.

Good luck to VWC and RMC tonite !!!! Hopefully both teams will be invited to the NCAA's regardless of the outcome .

[jdubyadubya]

Another humorous moment was during the Guilford and E&H game when the ref thought someone on the Guilford bench called a timeout and no one called a timeout from either bench. He awarded the ball to E&H after it was all said and done! Then, in the VWC/EMU game there was the pass from a EMU player to the corner and out of bounds. Only thing, the ref said it went out off a VWC player. There was no VWC player withing 50 feet of the ball! That was great. 

[bumblebeetuna]

Another humorous moment was during the Guilford and E&H game when the ref thought someone on the Guilford bench called a timeout and no one called a timeout from either bench. He awarded the ball to E&H after it was all said and done! Then, in the VWC/EMU game there was the pass from a EMU player to the corner and out of bounds. Only thing, the ref said it went out off a VWC player. There was no VWC player withing 50 feet of the ball! That was great. 

at least the refs yesterday didn't miss anything THAT obvious

[algernon]

algernon...you've been a friend to the ODAC board since its inception...in an precedented and unilateral move (and since we;ve gotten no respnse at all from mr_divac)...I have reinstated you into the semi-finals and posted your scores for future use if needed!

A dictator's work is never done! As soon as I receive algernon's score for tomorrown night the semifinals pairings will be set...

steelyglen ... You have been a benevolent dictator.  My thanks to you and all the semifinalists for your graciousness with regard to my addressing error!

My prediction for tonight's final:  VWC 74, RMC 65

[Tigerfan]

Well, had to sleep on it before I could write about this one.  As noted by others, the officiating was less than desirable with many opportunities for complaints from both sides.  Wansley should have been shooting free throws with about 1.4 on the clock, but no one had the guts to blow the whistle there.  From an H-SC perspective, it was/is unbelievably frustrating that during crunch time when R-MC was making some plays on their offensive end, the Tigers were also making plays on their end.  Unfortunately, while the yellow jerseys were not stopping them, the striped ones did maybe three consecutive times down the floor.  The travelling violation on Matt Guill when he had his arms held was brutal - instead of two free throws with a good shooter at the line, the Jackets got the ball and scored.

Otherwise, it was a fantastic game with some spectacular plays made by both teams.  Gill really picked up the Jackets and brought them back into the game.  Wansley brings so much game.  I may have seen as good a shooting exhibition as Prehmus put on, but no better.  He was making deep 3's with Krovic playing good defense.  Green was also more aggressive with his shooting and made some nice ones with defense in his face.

Overtime: Macon got the ball to their big, 2nd team all conference player for 3 layups.  H-SC's first team, all conference great athlete did not get a shot and had maybe one touch.  Kaase's not good at the line, but he sure puts some pressure on the defense when the ball is in his hands.  The game in overtime  looked like the game at H-S when Macon was getting easy shots and the Tigers struggled to get it inside the 3 point arc.   Krovic's 3 point killer in ot came as a result of some bad luck for the Tigers turned into a great play by Macon:  Prehmus got in the passing lane and tipped a ball away into the backcourt, Macon player beat him to the ball and got back upcourt into a 5 on 4 situation.  Jackets found the open man - game over.

All in all, I agree with my colleague 3sdown, refs are part of the game and you have to play through the tough calls.  Tough game to swallow but the Jackets made enough plays to win it, congrats.

[bumblebeetuna]

it was only a matter of time macon won it. with 12 minutes left in the 2nd half, as soon as macon got into double bonus, i knew it was over in the back of my head. i have seen this too many times. rmc is the duke of the odac and there is no denying it. and gill is the jj of the odac. how does he not start? does he only light it up against hsc?

[jdubyadubya]

"the Duke of the ODAC." That's the most interesting post I've ever seen here. Don't quite know what it means and where it comes from, but interesting, nonetheless!

[tigerfanalso]

I think the comment about RMC being the Duke of the ODAC refers to officiating and calls going the way of RMC towards the end of the game. I say that only because ACC fans acuse Duke of getting all the calls late in the came, or lack of calls against them) and I think that is what this poster is referring to; there is certainly no other reason for RMC to be referred to as being the Duke of the ODAC.

[bumblebeetuna]

yes, and because they play physical defense and the refs constantly let them make contact and do not have control of the game. they play very similar to duke, they take whatever the refs give them, which usually is a lot of contact without being penalized

[bumblebeetuna]

this is not at all an attack on rmc or duke. it is smart basketball. if the refs are going to allow you to play a physical game, then you better play a physical game. it is good that they change their games and take advantage of the refs.

[tigerfanalso]

I agree and I think that is one reason Cach Rhodes is such a good coach... his teams always adjust to how the game is being called which is usually interrupted incorrectly by the fan base from the opposing team... if the officials are going to allow contact under the basket you better adjust your style of play and take advantage of the situation... that is good coaching more so than bad officiating.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

this is not at all an attack on rmc or duke. it is smart basketball. if the refs are going to allow you to play a physical game, then you better play a physical game. it is good that they change their games and take advantage of the refs.

No, what you're really saying is that R-MC and Duke don't deserve to win all the the games they do, and without the help of refs, they probably wouldn't.

Look, your Tigers lost a tough one.  Whenever you lose, it sucks.  Whenever the loss ends your season, it really sucks.  Whenever you lose a close one (especially overtime) where there were questionable calls (which there always are), it really really sucks.  Emotions are high before, during and after those games.  So much so (in your case) it drove you to post on here, even after;

i read the board a lot, its usually really boring and has never been worthy of being posted on.

Anyway, I'm glad you stopped yawning and joined as a poster.  But I'd advise (unfortunately it took me awhile too) you learn how to post with class.  Get in touch with your Sydney football counterparts (i.e. norton, HSCTIGER2, 1HStiger) over on D3sports.com's ODAC board and ask how they do it.  They've had some tough losses on the gridiron, but I don't remember them pointing fingers at anyone but themselves.

Anywho, point being that had "all these bad calls" been made in a 20-point blowout during the regular season, you wouldn't be on here yappin'.  But realize the aforementioned circumstances; you're playing your ODAC-rival, in the ODAC tournament, in an overtime game, which you end up losing.  It's quite natural for the losing side to pick out "all the bad calls" and say that's the reason you lost.  Again, it sucks.  But officials are human.  They make mistakes.  Deal.

Odds are you'll get all this "it was the officiating" out of your system and never post again.

[CT]

You just want to blame the loss on someone else without being able to admit that much of the blame lies with your own team. 

Actually, if you READ what has been posted, many of us have readily admitted that RMC is the better team.  But HSC played as well or better than them for a good portion of the game (which was a pleasant change from the two earlier meetings this year).  It doesn't matter though against good teams like Macon if you have a 3 series stretch where there is the shot-clock "violation" on a made basket, Matt Guill's drive and foul called by the official who guill was facing only to be overturned by the official near halfcourt who was staring at Guill's back and couldn't see what the defender was doing to him, and I think then or near then was the charge call on Prehmus.  I may be wrong on that.  But that is a huge momentum killer that literally took points off the board and led to points off both RMC possessions that followed.  Then in OT, Lewek fouls out after at least 2 of the fouls called on him during the game were iffy, ticky-tacky calls at best.  We don't have RMC's depth at the F/C position and so we've got a freshman, Laakso, trying to guard an ODAC 2nd teamer.  Personally, especially after the first two easy baskets by Hawley, I would have liked to have seen Szuch come in because I think he's been the better defender all year but Bubba didn't make the switch.  Would one less basket by Hawley have mattered, probably not.  That's the point with really good teams like Macon.  If they get an edge like that they can and will exploit it against teams like HSC.