MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[rmc1982]

R-MC destroys Alvernia 92-64 in Ashland-faces #23 Wooster tomorrow night....I will admit I was very skeptical of this group at first, but now I'm beginning to think they're for real( although probably not a #6 team)Hasa-the date in Ashland could loom large........;-)

You're absolutely right, rmc1982.  The lone RMC/GC game in Greensboro last Jan. 31 appears to have been the tie-breaker that sent the Quakers to to the NCAA's and kept the Yellow Jackets home.  We've only played a few games in the ODAC, but I've already noted the importance of the Ashland trip.  I'm not trying to leave anyone out, but VWC and EMU's visits to Ragan-Brown loom large as well.

For us as well,but I think we play both  of the other teams twice.......ours is a unique situation....which brings a question.....to a game that could be as big as ours, couldn't the powers that be in the ODAC have brought themselves to give us both a home and home situation????DUH.....I know that things can change every year and big matchups shift, but this one is a no-brainer!!Like you said, it got you in and kept us out last year....

Eleven teams and a 16-game conference schedule will always create problems.  You have to set the schedule in advance and who do you think will be contenders and who won't?  From a geographic and historical perspective, there are certain matchups that will be home-and-away every season, but others won't.  I'm not sure what the best solution is.  

Hasa-I understand the logistics but disagree as to the method.....wouldn't it make better sense to do,say, what the NFL does every year....rank and fille the match-ups? Sure, there are always surprises.....but the no-brainers like the RMC-GC-VWC match-ups would be safe,,,the snag this year is EMU, and never count out H-SC....like I say I understand the problems, but there HAS to be a better way......

[2RMCFans]

The Jackets have a tougher test tonight against Wooster, but they continue to play extremely tough defense and have at least 8 players who can be counted on for double-digit scoring (at least based on the season to date).   

Having such a great range of substitutes is keeping everyone out of foul trouble.

GO JACKETS!!!

[rmc1982]

2RMC Fans- I have watched a few games on the web,I live down in Franklin so I can't always make the  almost 2 hr trip to Crenshaw-and the thing i have been most impressed with is the depth that we have....when one person isn't hitting someone else always seems to pick up the slack.....last night it was Calvin Croskey,Braxton,and Danny Jones....The Baker kid also played well @ the point....this is depth that we haven't always have the good fortune of having-and Nathan Davis is doing a great job moving them in and out.I noticed that even when we're up big if they start to get sloppy he stops,calls timeout,and from what it looks like forcefully points out to them that they need to give him quality minutes if they want to play for him.......and the sloppiness quickly stops. Like DonHo I have been cautiously optimistic about this group.........looks like(at least so far) they are living up to expectations, but there's ALOT of games left to play....we'll just have to see.....and another test comes tonight....

[hasanova]

I don't think the ODAC would ever want to play a 20-game conference schedule, which is the only way you can play everyone home-and-away when you have eleven teams.  As long as the NCAA limits the regular season to 25 games, twenty ODAC games would only allow you five nonconference tilts. 

On the women's side Hollins is the equivalent of Hampden-Sydney on the men's side as a single gender institution, and the women play a 20 game home and away confernece schedule. In fact, they were doing it before Randolph-Macon Women's College became co-ed Randolph. I agree that having only 5 non-conference games is too few and they should change the schedule to be like the men's so the women get more non-conference games.

True, and I was aware of that, but I don't think the men want 20 ODAC games.

[WooHoopsntrack01]

While RMC is a good basketball team.......and its a home game for them.........and......well forget it... LETS GO SCOTS, LETS GO SCOTS, LETS GO SCOTS, LETS GO SCOTS!!!

[deanslist]

Donho,

So who do you consider a good team so far in the ODAC? If you are not ready to label EMU a good team yet and the Royals beat the Marlins a few weeks ago in VA Beach, then are you saying the only good teams right now in the conference are Guilford and Randolph Macon?

[y_jack_lok]

I don't think the ODAC would ever want to play a 20-game conference schedule, which is the only way you can play everyone home-and-away when you have eleven teams.  As long as the NCAA limits the regular season to 25 games, twenty ODAC games would only allow you five nonconference tilts. 

On the women's side Hollins is the equivalent of Hampden-Sydney on the men's side as a single gender institution, and the women play a 20 game home and away confernece schedule. In fact, they were doing it before Randolph-Macon Women's College became co-ed Randolph. I agree that having only 5 non-conference games is too few and they should change the schedule to be like the men's so the women get more non-conference games.

True, and I was aware of that, but I don't think the men want 20 ODAC games.

Are the women happy with the current arrangement? If so, that's good. If not, why does the conference not schedule them the way they schedule the men and allow the women more non-conference games?

[rmc1982]

Donho,

So who do you consider a good team so far in the ODAC? If you are not ready to label EMU a good team yet and the Royals beat the Marlins a few weeks ago in VA Beach, then are you saying the only good teams right now in the conference are Guilford and Randolph Macon?

I certainly don't think ANYONE is looking past EMU!!...and if anyone took my post to say this is a 4 or 5 team race between GC,R-MC,VWC,EMU,and H-SC that's certainly not what I meant.....With the parity in the league right now there are NO PATTYCAKES-which is an absolutely great thing!I can't speak for DonHo but I certainly don't think he means what you said,either......As a matter of fact he's been the one who has said not to jump on the R-MC bandwagon-YET! we'll see how the Jackets play tonite against a better team....and how the rest of the ODAC season plays out after Jan 1.....

[hasanova]

I don't think the ODAC would ever want to play a 20-game conference schedule, which is the only way you can play everyone home-and-away when you have eleven teams.  As long as the NCAA limits the regular season to 25 games, twenty ODAC games would only allow you five nonconference tilts.

On the women's side Hollins is the equivalent of Hampden-Sydney on the men's side as a single gender institution, and the women play a 20 game home and away confernece schedule. In fact, they were doing it before Randolph-Macon Women's College became co-ed Randolph. I agree that having only 5 non-conference games is too few and they should change the schedule to be like the men's so the women get more non-conference games.

True, and I was aware of that, but I don't think the men want 20 ODAC games.

Are the women happy with the current arrangement? If so, that's good. If not, why does the conference not schedule them the way they schedule the men and allow the women more non-conference games?

I'm not 100% sure they (the women, their coaches and the ADs) are happy with a 20-game ODAC schedule, but it does raise some interesting points.  Why would the women have a 20-game ODAC slate and the men only 16?  Are out-of-conference games deemed more important for men than the women?  Are travel cost budgets different for men than women?  Did the league office decide this unilaterally or did the ADs vote on it?

[hasanova]

There's a key nonconference game between the Guilford Quakers and the Maryville (TN) Scots Wednesday night at 7 pm in Greensboro.  Both teams were NCAA participants last season and both will have good records (GC 5-1, MC either 8-1 or 7-2 depending on their outcome at Averett tonight).  You need games such as this to let you know your strengths and weaknesses.  Go Quakers!

[donho]

 Deanslist,  EMU has won a few games that have opened some eyes. They have won more games against not so good teams, lets see where they stand in early January. Now if you want to say they are better then in years past, that I would say appears to be correct at this time in THIS season.
  Some people jump on bandwagons early and then have to eat their words and put more pressure on  said teams.
   I follow RMC and think at this point they have a nice team, but my goodness it's only Dec 14th. and no way do I think thet are number 6 in all of DIII hoops.
  Some of it also has to do with the fact that the past 3-4 years we see on this site how good EMU is gonna be, well so far they have not shown me much of anything. Last year was their best year in along time and I think they ended at like 15-11, to me thats not a good team.

[donho]

rmc1982,   I work in Suffolk maybe we could make the ride together sometime.

[Ralph Turner]

There's a wealth of information in this link on basketball doubles.  To date, the only known quintuple-double of 10 or more points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks was recorded by Tamika Catchings for Duncanville, TX high school in 1997 (25, 18, 11, 10, 10).  Wow!  Now that's a stat line!    

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_(basketball)

Daughter of HSU-ex Harvey Catchings, when HSU was D-1 in the Trans-America Association.

[Hampton U SID]

VWC 69, Apprentice 55
Fields 22, Vaughn 15 and 8 boards, Roberts 11 and five assists

[hasanova]

There's a wealth of information in this link on basketball doubles.  To date, the only known quintuple-double of 10 or more points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks was recorded by Tamika Catchings for Duncanville, TX high school in 1997 (25, 18, 11, 10, 10).  Wow!  Now that's a stat line!    

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_(basketball)

Daughter of HSU-ex Harvey Catchings, when HSU was D-1 in the Trans-America Association.

Thanks for the extra information, Ralph ... looks as though she played some hoops with Dad in the driveway while growing up.  Did Tamika play college ball?