MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[marlinpg10]

Obviously something coach Macedo is doing is working. He has had one of the best teams in the league for the last 7 years!!

[DeWayneCarter]

I'm pretty sure that whatever the players was saying to the fans wasn't unwarranted. Fans do tend to get a little bit rowdy at times.. (the Lebron James incident a few days ago) especially if they were throwing out all of the vulgarities at the players that have been "tossed around" so I think that fans must be held accountable also in incidents like this. I know that at VWC games no one "tosses around" words at other teams that have been known around the ODAC for decades.

That being said, I assure you that whatever incident went down, Macedo will take care of it regarding the players' role. He's not the type of person to let his players do whatever with no repercussions. Especially if the police were involved.

[DeWayneCarter]

As someone not even from your part of the country, I can give one:

Rightly or wrongly they have often been termed "the thugs from the beach" on this thread.

Thugs from the beach... hahaha that's a good one.... last season's graduating class of "thugs" has two graduate students, one with a job at one of the top accounting firms in the DC Metropolitan region, another a high school coach..... sounds like some hard core thugs to me

[hsctigers2002]

It's funny how the team with all but about 4 african american kids is called thugs... is that the reason hsctiger. Lets be serious. it was a heated game and the refs didnt know if they wanted to let both teams play or call it tight simple as that. And as far as the fans i'm pretty sure they were talking to the marlin players. I recall a few years back an old man cussing at Macedo

VWC is the only team all year that has come into Fleet Gymnasium and has had to have the police keep their bench, and at the end of the game, the whole team in control though. Apparently, as algernon said, this behavior is condoned on a regular basis, which is quite simply sad. I was also told they were cheering and jumping up and down on the logo at midcourt in pregame while the H-SC team was out there - which regardless of the team is a classless move.

Macedo does a hell of a good job coaching that team and that alone commands respect - not even factoring in a national championship and another F4 appearance - but the behavior of his team consistently from year-to-year leaves a lot to be desired.

[DeWayneCarter]

How often have incidents like these happened at VWC happened.. where the police had to escort them to the locker room? And what does the warm up routine have to do with anything? Aside from whatever taunting was going on during the game and the incidents that happened after the game, I don't see anything wrong with a team being loose before a game? The name of this sport is COLLEGE basketball. In college, 80% of the fun that people have in their lives happens. College is also a place where young adults make mistakes and learn from them. After college, I think that we as adults should know that "tossing around" obscenities at them doesn't make us any better. Things happen in the heat of the game, especially in games where two teams are rivals and competitive and both want to win. But what shouldn't happen are the events that took place after the game, which apparently not only involved a VWC player but a Hampden-Sydney fan, and coming onto this message board condoning the "tossing around" of obscenities, whatever they may be.

[Brian Hamilton]

I must say I enjoyed the game between HSC and VWC (mostly because of the outcome).  As for the foul discrepancy, HSC played the majority of the game in the paint while VWC played very much on the perimeter (hence 23 three point attempts).  You are not going to get many calls when you shoot that much from the perimeter.  In addition, VWC, on several occasions, attempted to go through Tiger big men to obtain rebounds when they did not have position.  What is amazing is that a lot more fouls could have (and maybe should have) been called both ways.  VWC guards hand checked a lot and it was never called.  I also felt they actually allowed a little more pushing and shoving when players were trying to establish position but then called it tight once players had the ball in position.

HSC's game plan from the beginning was obvious.  We are bigger than VWC and we are going to pound it inside all day.  They, for the most part, kept to this game plan and it worked.  I will say that I sat near ODAC commissioner Brad Bankston and I don't know if he was too happy with all of the extracurricular activities that occurred at today's game.

[Mr. Ypsi]

As someone not even from your part of the country, I can give one:

Rightly or wrongly they have often been termed "the thugs from the beach" on this thread.

Thugs from the beach... hahaha that's a good one.... last season's graduating class of "thugs" has two graduate students, one with a job at one of the top accounting firms in the DC Metropolitan region, another a high school coach..... sounds like some hard core thugs to me

As I said "rightly or wrongly".  I'm in Michigan - I have never seen any ODAC team in person (even when VWC took down my beloved IWU Titans in 2006 ).

The post I responded to claimed no epithets had appeared on these boards.  I merely pointed out that they had, repeating the one in particular that I remembered appearing numerous times.

[DeWayneCarter]

I was just laughing that time because I had heard that "thugs from the beach" quip before.. just trying to understand how we got that nickname because there aren't any ex-cons on that roster. Ironically, one former Marlin is now a Norfolk Police Officer... imagine that lol


Hopefully the Marlins don't become a team that lives and dies by the 3, especially with postseason play coming up. In their last 2 games VWC has shot a combined 9-37 from the three point stripe. I hope that their shooting struggles don't become mental, with only one practice in between today's game and a game at EMU on Monday. I've seen these guys light it up in games this year and know that they are capable of much more offensively and defensively. Also, Harrison George is a ballplayer... I love his game

[yj424]

testing 123

[hsctigers2002]

Coach Palombo is beginning to make me rethink who I pick for the ODAC Coach of the Year. However, based on the ODAC Coaches that have been interview on the sports buffet with bob alvis (http://thesportsbuffet.mypodcast.com/ check him out, he does a really good job of covering the ODAC!), it sounds like Clay Nunley has strong voting support!

Think I am going to have to pick a new player of the year as well. Colton Hunt is still a very fine player, but he is starting to fade off a bit (as well as Randolph, with three straight losses and 4 of the last 6) and is starting to become fairly turnover prone. Int he second game against H-SC, he really struggled against the length and athleticism of Ru White - I wonder if he is starting to be defended more often by a bigger player? Harrison George has certainly vaulted into contention now with the improved play, and most importantly Ws, by the Tigers. It's going to be tough for a sophomore to win the award in the real voting though...

[DeWayneCarter]

HSC hot streak as of late, especially towards the end of the season, should strengthen George's case for POY. The only player I could think of above him would be Josh Pittman.

[hasanova]

As someone not even from your part of the country, I can give one:

Rightly or wrongly they have often been termed "the thugs from the beach" on this thread.

Thugs from the beach... hahaha that's a good one.... last season's graduating class of "thugs" has two graduate students, one with a job at one of the top accounting firms in the DC Metropolitan region, another a high school coach..... sounds like some hard core thugs to me

I've been on this board for a long time.  I don't remember anyone from another ODAC school using that term.  In fact, I think it was historically a moniker coined by VWC players and fans to perhaps somewhat cockily describe their style of play.  Am I missing something here?

[Mr. Ypsi]

As someone not even from your part of the country, I can give one:

Rightly or wrongly they have often been termed "the thugs from the beach" on this thread.

Thugs from the beach... hahaha that's a good one.... last season's graduating class of "thugs" has two graduate students, one with a job at one of the top accounting firms in the DC Metropolitan region, another a high school coach..... sounds like some hard core thugs to me

I've been on this board for a long time.  I don't remember anyone from another ODAC school using that term.  In fact, I think it was historically a moniker coined by VWC players and fans to perhaps somewhat cockily describe their style of play.  Am I missing something here?

I remember reading it here a number of times, but do not recall which fans were using the phrase.

As an outsider, I'll now bow out of the conversation!

[hasanova]

Makes me think of an old Beatles song...................with a little help from my.........'s

Can't figure out what that's supposed to mean, donho .... but I can guarantee you that anyone watching how the Marlin big men banged and fouled the Tigers over and over wouldn't have argued with the way the refs' called the fouls.  All those guys -- Vaughn, Astorga, Davis, and Brown -- seemed to be playing under the basket as if they didn't have to worry about having their fouls called.  Perhaps they hoped they could get Harrison George fouled out of the game if they played it rough enough.  And Macedo stood on the court the whole game, but was finally called on it and given a technical.  The Marlins' bench taunted the Sydney players in a way I haven't seen any ODAC bench do this season.  

The Tigers played their best game of the season ... they have been getting better and better ... and now, having lost by 2 points to the #11 Yellow Jackets and by 2 to Lynchburg, they've put together three 10-19 point victories over Randolph, Bridgewater, and Emory & Henry, plus a victory over #19 Ferrum and #6 VWC.  They are clearly among the best five teams in this league, along with VWC, RMC, EMU, and Guilford.  Harrison George (22 pts, 6 reb) should be among the top two vote-getters for POY this year, and Ru White (16 pts, 9 reb) is certainly an All-ODAC second-teamer, if not a first-teamer.  Randall Ward (17 pts, 4 assists) and Colin O'Neill (11 pts) are playing their career best over the past 5 games, and Sasha Obradovic was really quite impressive this afternoon.  Ben Jessee, although shooting little, was strong throughout and had 5 assists.  The Tigers shot 50% against a solid Marlin defense, 33% from behind the arc, and 72% from the foul line.  They outrebounded the Marlins, 40-33.

"And Macedo stood on the court the whole game, but was finally called on it and given a technical."  

Macedo did the same thing at Guilford and probably should've been called for a Technical, but wasn't.

[hasanova]

Yeah Nova what have you guys got going down there in Carolina???

Hey, donho.  The Quakers are playing well, having won 11 of their last 13 (probably should've been 12 of 13, but we let one get away at Randolph).  Different guys are stepping up every game and there's good team chemistry.  I don't look forward to the game at HSC Wednesday night, but let's toss it up and see what happens!