MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

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78rmc

Quote from: donho on February 27, 2011, 07:36:28 PM
 78 it appears R-MC is going with a nine man rotation. Braxton may have lost a minute or two but I think he still had a fairly good tourney. Lamar sucked up some of Jordans minutes in game two when he got into foul trouble. It seems he fits nicely into the rotation.

Thanks, did not follow the games that closely, was wondering where Lamar's minutes came from, so thanks!  He could be a key to RMC's run in the big tourney.

hsctigers2002

I was just thinking this, how good was last year's recruiting class? FOUR of last year's recruits are already first-team All-ODAC - George, Pittman, Hunt, Campbell). I imagine three of them have a real good shot at All-Region, Campbell might not because of LC's record. Ey and Teasley were also honorable mention. Pretty spectacular that one recruiting class is making such a huge impact in only their second year in the league.

y_jack_lok

Quote from: hsctigers2002 on February 27, 2011, 05:55:02 PM
Congratulations to R-MC. Their dismantling of Randolph was impressive, to say the least. I would not be surprised at all if they win the National Championship. Their defense is on a whole different level right now - quite possibly the best in all of D3 right now. Their current 54.5 points allowed per game is one of the best of all-time, based on the numbers from the NCAA record book.

I agree that the Jackets have a legit chance to win it all. I'd love to see them go all the way, but there are a lot of good teams out there. I saw R-MC lose to Wabash over Thanksgiving weekend. Granted, that was a long time ago in basketball season terms, and no doubt the Jackets are better now. But other teams will be better, too. One game at a time is all any team can focus on.

hasanova

Congratulations to the Yellow Jackets - well deserved!  I'll be pulling for you in the NCAA tournament!

rmc1982

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Just looked at D3HOOPS projected field of 61 and noticed the EMU's were left out, unless I missed something in my monday morning stupor..... ;) ??? ::)......whats up with that? I feel that they should be in, like alot of the rest of you here...... ???.......Lets hope the NCAA selection committee feels that way too this morning!
"We're completely surrounded-Excellent!...Now we can attack in any direction!'....Chesty Puller, USMC

HSCDad

The D3 Bracketology screen did not give much encouragement for EMU to be involved - in fact, they did not offer encouragement for Ferrum either and put EMU after Ferrum with only 2 for the ODAC - Sad to see!!

2RMCFans

No voice left!   Good thing we can still type.

What a weekend... sure hope EMU does get that Pool C bid & we feel they have earned it.

We said here recently that Lamar Giggetts was a player to watch... well he really lit it up in Salem.  As for the "where is Jordan Brown" commentary earlier; maybe he is peaking at the perfect time.  He's played outstanding defense all season but this weekend he added some power offense.   

Congrats to Randolph on a terrific season.  They maybe just didn't have enough gas in the tank after two big wins Fri. and Sat.  It was fun to watch them play in the big game yesterday & we wish them the best.

In our humble opinion the key to the wins of both the men & the women was playing as a team.  We are lucky to have so many players on each roster who CONTRIBUTE.  (Plus, both yesterday controlled the ball well.) 

Hoping to host SOMETHING this weekend!  GO JACKETS!!!!

algernon

Quote from: rmc1982 on February 28, 2011, 07:54:17 AM
Just looked at D3HOOPS projected field of 61 and noticed the EMU's were left out, unless I missed something in my monday morning stupor..... ;) ??? ::)......whats up with that? I feel that they should be in, like alot of the rest of you here...... ???.......Lets hope the NCAA selection committee feels that way too this morning!

The NCAA selection committee may very well have EMU above Ferrum in the final South rankings.  In that case, they'll be compared to teams like Kean, Wittenburg, St. Joseph's, and Hanover.  With 3 of their 5 losses to RMC (a team that will be seeded very high in this tournament), a win over Ferrum, and a win over VWC, the Royals will hopefully be chosen over one of the teams I've just named.

The South rankings are a mess ... and the Pool C bids are up in the air.

stillfamily

Quote from: algernon on February 28, 2011, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: rmc1982 on February 28, 2011, 07:54:17 AM
Just looked at D3HOOPS projected field of 61 and noticed the EMU's were left out, unless I missed something in my monday morning stupor..... ;) ??? ::)......whats up with that? I feel that they should be in, like alot of the rest of you here...... ???.......Lets hope the NCAA selection committee feels that way too this morning!

The NCAA selection committee may very well have EMU above Ferrum in the final South rankings.  In that case, they'll be compared to teams like Kean, Wittenburg, St. Joseph's, and Hanover.  With 3 of their 5 losses to RMC (a team that will be seeded very high in this tournament), a win over Ferrum, and a win over VWC, the Royals will hopefully be chosen over one of the teams I've just named.

The South rankings are a mess ... and the Pool C bids are up in the air.
I sure hope you are right! I just can't see how we can't be ahead of Ferrum. In the last two weeks HSC beat Ferrum at Ferrum and EMU just beat HSC, and beat Ferrum earlier on this season... I can't see how they can be left behind them????

Will2Win

Quote from: stillfamily on February 28, 2011, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: algernon on February 28, 2011, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: rmc1982 on February 28, 2011, 07:54:17 AM
Just looked at D3HOOPS projected field of 61 and noticed the EMU's were left out, unless I missed something in my monday morning stupor..... ;) ??? ::)......whats up with that? I feel that they should be in, like alot of the rest of you here...... ???.......Lets hope the NCAA selection committee feels that way too this morning!

The NCAA selection committee may very well have EMU above Ferrum in the final South rankings.  In that case, they'll be compared to teams like Kean, Wittenburg, St. Joseph's, and Hanover.  With 3 of their 5 losses to RMC (a team that will be seeded very high in this tournament), a win over Ferrum, and a win over VWC, the Royals will hopefully be chosen over one of the teams I've just named.

The South rankings are a mess ... and the Pool C bids are up in the air.
I sure hope you are right! I just can't see how we can't be ahead of Ferrum. In the last two weeks HSC beat Ferrum at Ferrum and EMU just beat HSC, and beat Ferrum earlier on this season... I can't see how they can be left behind them????

Regardless of whether or not we're ranked behind Ferrum in the Reg rankings....we need to be ranked higher in the south than Dallas-TX and Mary Hardin-Baylor (Who could hop both EMU and Texas-Dallas and steal the Pool C)....I don't think EMU's gonna make it in  :o :'( :-\....I'll keep my fingers crossed though...

hasanova

Unfortunately, a lot of folks get used to seeing teams with 19-10 records make it in DI when they're maybe the #6 team in the Big East or the ACC, but .... it's not the same in DIII.  If you don't win your conference tournament and you have 4 to 6 losses, you're sweating it out on Monday.  It's a much narrower prospect in DIII!

royalrooter

From an objective point of view it would be hard to argue that EMU is not one of the 61 best teams in the country. That said, were dealing with NCAA formulas and politics is uncertain at best. Pat and crew are usually pretty close on their projections so I'm not too optimistic.

Unfortunately, Kirby had trouble finding D3 teams that wanted to play a top 10 team early in the season. I wonder if EMU would have been better served not playing non-NCAA competition since they don't count in the region. Hopefully SOS will be considered by the committee.

Will2Win

Quote from: royalrooter on February 28, 2011, 11:20:03 AM
From an objective point of view it would be hard to argue that EMU is not one of the 61 best teams in the country. That said, were dealing with NCAA formulas and politics is uncertain at best. Pat and crew are usually pretty close on their projections so I'm not too optimistic.

Unfortunately, Kirby had trouble finding D3 teams that wanted to play a top 10 team early in the season. I wonder if EMU would have been better served not playing non-NCAA competition since they don't count in the region. Hopefully SOS will be considered by the committee.

All we had to do was make a few phone calls to the not as competitive USAS schools (A.K.A.....CNU, NC WES, Greensboro, etc) and not scheduled NCCAA Lancaster Bible, out of region Penn-State Beaver and Penn State-Brandywine or NAIA South Virginia. But EMU is too worried about keeping their PA and religious school ties as many Mennonites are from PA ....Its a shame. Bet EMU's AD Dave King re-evaluates his thinking process in future scheduling and you better bet Coach Kirby Dean wont let it happen again...

stillfamily

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Quote from: bossman on February 28, 2011, 11:29:53 AM
Quote from: royalrooter on February 28, 2011, 11:20:03 AM
From an objective point of view it would be hard to argue that EMU is not one of the 61 best teams in the country. That said, were dealing with NCAA formulas and politics is uncertain at best. Pat and crew are usually pretty close on their projections so I'm not too optimistic.

Unfortunately, Kirby had trouble finding D3 teams that wanted to play a top 10 team early in the season. I wonder if EMU would have been better served not playing non-NCAA competition since they don't count in the region. Hopefully SOS will be considered by the committee.

All we had to do was make a few phone calls to the not as competitive USAS schools (A.K.A.....CNU, NC WES, Greensboro, etc) and not scheduled NCCAA Lancaster Bible, out of region Penn-State Beaver and Penn State-Brandywine or NAIA South Virginia. But EMU is too worried about keeping their PA and religious school ties as many Mennonites are from PA ....Its a shame. Bet EMU's AD Dave King re-evaluates his thinking process in future scheduling and you better bet Coach Kirby Dean wont let it happen again...
Bossman, your a little off with this. EMU's Kirby Dean called over 70 schools to try and schedule them. NO TEAM ACCEPTED!  Religious ties have nothing to do with us playing Penn State-Brandywine or the team BC had in their tournament. We did play Lancaster Bible and they are D-III, but it doesn't go into affect until next year.  The impression was that they would be considerred D-III this year. If EMU could have gotten a DIII out of the C-USA or any other close school they would have. NOBODY WOULD PLAY THEM!

Will2Win

Quote from: stillfamily on February 28, 2011, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: bossman on February 28, 2011, 11:29:53 AM
Quote from: royalrooter on February 28, 2011, 11:20:03 AM
From an objective point of view it would be hard to argue that EMU is not one of the 61 best teams in the country. That said, were dealing with NCAA formulas and politics is uncertain at best. Pat and crew are usually pretty close on their projections so I'm not too optimistic.

Unfortunately, Kirby had trouble finding D3 teams that wanted to play a top 10 team early in the season. I wonder if EMU would have been better served not playing non-NCAA competition since they don't count in the region. Hopefully SOS will be considered by the committee.

All we had to do was make a few phone calls to the not as competitive USAS schools (A.K.A.....CNU, NC WES, Greensboro, etc) and not scheduled NCCAA Lancaster Bible, out of region Penn-State Beaver and Penn State-Brandywine or NAIA South Virginia. But EMU is too worried about keeping their PA and religious school ties as many Mennonites are from PA ....Its a shame. Bet EMU's AD Dave King re-evaluates his thinking process in future scheduling and you better bet Coach Kirby Dean wont let it happen again...
Bossman, your a little off with this. EMU's Kirby Dean called over 70 schools to try and schedule them. They all would not play us! Religious ties have nothing to do with us playing Penn State-Brandywine or the team BC had in their tournament. We did play Lancaster Bible and they are D-III, but it doesn't go into affect until next year.  The impression was that they would be considerred D-III this year. If EMU could have gotten a DIII out of the C-USA or any other close school they would have. NOBODY WOULD PLAY THEM!

Well I guess I may be a bit mis-guided here as this is only what i've been told. Not direct knowledge that I know for a fact and I probably should have stated that before making such a post. My only question is, if no one wanting to play us really is the reason we keep playing Non region opponents how can RMC and VA Wess seem to have little trouble finding region teams to play as their programs are more relavant than ours...They've been the top programs in the ODAC for quite some time. I dont see how our storybook season from last year could "scare" that many coaches away from wanting to play us. I understand we had all 5 starters returning from an elite 8 team, but same can be said of Randy Mac's 7 returning Sr's that led them to the final 4 and the brink of playing for a National Title....thats all I'm saying. I not buying the "no one in the entire south wanted to play us"....You'd think there would be atleast a team or two out there looking to knockoff a highly ranked team especially early in the season when a lesser team could catch an EMU out of sync early on....???
I know if I were a coach with a decent team i'd atleast wanna give it a shot....it can only be a positive for a university (if ya lose to EMU early then hell you lost to the #3 preseason team in the land, ya knock em off....hmmmm, talk about putting your team on the early radar...)