MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[hasanova]

Just out of curiosity I was checking out all of the ODAC schedules and they really need to take a look at home they schedule. Only one team plays Macon, Sydney, and Va Wes twice. Some play only 3 games while most play 4. It is time with Shenendoah coming in to go to divisions.

I think you'll see two divisions of six teams each once Shenandoah's full time.  I predict RMC, HSC, VWC, GC, LC and Rand on one side and SU, BC, EMU, W&L, Roanoke and E&H on the other.   With this scenario, you'd play the five division teams twice (home and away) and the six teams in the other division once a year with home and away in alternating years.  You'll still have a 16-game regular season.  For basketball, one division I've proposed is currrently "stacked", but these things ebb and flow over time.

[Brian Hamilton]

I agree with Nova on the likely divisions.  Unfortunately, that means the possible top 5 from this year (VWC, RMC, HSC, GC, LC) would all be in the same division.  I don't know if things will ebb and flow that much though Nova.  Of the other 6 teams in the other division, EMU and W&L have had recent success, but the others have been down for a while.  Only time will tell though.

[hasanova]

I agree with Nova on the likely divisions.  Unfortunately, that means the possible top 5 from this year (VWC, RMC, HSC, GC, LC) would all be in the same division.  I don't know if things will ebb and flow that much though Nova.  Of the other 6 teams in the other division, EMU and W&L have had recent success, but the others have been down for a while.  Only time will tell though.

Well, ten years ago, GC was at the bottom of the ODAC and LC is also now playing much better than a few years ago.  I assume the divisions would apply to other sports, so it wouldn't just affect men's basketball.  It's interesting to note that my proposed "west" division is all up and down I-81.  Is there a common theme that ties the "east" together?

Here's another proposal:

E&H, GC, LC, Randolph, Roanoke and W&L
BC, EMU, HSC, RMC, SU and VWC

[78rmc]

I agree with Nova on the likely divisions.  Unfortunately, that means the possible top 5 from this year (VWC, RMC, HSC, GC, LC) would all be in the same division.  I don't know if things will ebb and flow that much though Nova.  Of the other 6 teams in the other division, EMU and W&L have had recent success, but the others have been down for a while.  Only time will tell though.

Well, ten years ago, GC was at the bottom of the ODAC and LC is also now playing much better than a few years ago.  I assume the divisions would apply to other sports, so it wouldn't just affect men's basketball.  It's interesting to note that my proposed "west" division is all up and down I-81.  Is there a common theme that ties the "east" together?

Here's another proposal:

E&H, GC, LC, Randolph, Roanoke and W&L
BC, EMU, HSC, RMC, SU and VWC

Things would be much more simple if we dropped GC and VWC from the ODAC.

[hsctigers2002]

Just out of curiosity I was checking out all of the ODAC schedules and they really need to take a look at home they schedule. Only one team plays Macon, Sydney, and Va Wes twice. Some play only 3 games while most play 4. It is time with Shenendoah coming in to go to divisions.

I think you'll see two divisions of six teams each once Shenandoah's full time.  I predict RMC, HSC, VWC, GC, LC and Rand on one side and SU, BC, EMU, W&L, Roanoke and E&H on the other.   With this scenario, you'd play the five division teams twice (home and away) and the six teams in the other division once a year with home and away in alternating years.  You'll still have a 16-game regular season.  For basketball, one division I've proposed is currrently "stacked", but these things ebb and flow over time.

I foresee little chance of those divisions happening. The division with RMC, HSC, VWC, GC, LC, and Randolph will be too loaded. The other division doesn't even have two teams that are consistently legitimate threats to win the ODAC championship, many years not even one team. No way the coach at a school like Macon is going to approve having to go through a murderer's row of an ODAC schedule every year while the other side gets many of the teams that are stuck in the bottom on an annual basis. Those divisions do little to benefit the ODAC.

[Brian Hamilton]

NOVA,
I agree that GC and LC used to be at the bottom, but with the exception of EMU and W&L, the three other ODAC programs on that side have been moving in the opposite direction.  I do, however, believe that a realignment such as this may help them to recruit if they can start to win against their divisional opponents because they will start to improve their records and possibly attract recruits that they are not currently getting. 

[hasanova]

I agree with Nova on the likely divisions.  Unfortunately, that means the possible top 5 from this year (VWC, RMC, HSC, GC, LC) would all be in the same division.  I don't know if things will ebb and flow that much though Nova.  Of the other 6 teams in the other division, EMU and W&L have had recent success, but the others have been down for a while.  Only time will tell though.

Well, ten years ago, GC was at the bottom of the ODAC and LC is also now playing much better than a few years ago.  I assume the divisions would apply to other sports, so it wouldn't just affect men's basketball.  It's interesting to note that my proposed "west" division is all up and down I-81.  Is there a common theme that ties the "east" together?

Here's another proposal:

E&H, GC, LC, Randolph, Roanoke and W&L
BC, EMU, HSC, RMC, SU and VWC

Things would be much more simple if we dropped GC and VWC from the ODAC.

Hey, hey, hey ... play fair.  lol  Don't forget, without GC, RMC would have one less win in football. 

[hasanova]

Just out of curiosity I was checking out all of the ODAC schedules and they really need to take a look at home they schedule. Only one team plays Macon, Sydney, and Va Wes twice. Some play only 3 games while most play 4. It is time with Shenendoah coming in to go to divisions.

I think you'll see two divisions of six teams each once Shenandoah's full time.  I predict RMC, HSC, VWC, GC, LC and Rand on one side and SU, BC, EMU, W&L, Roanoke and E&H on the other.   With this scenario, you'd play the five division teams twice (home and away) and the six teams in the other division once a year with home and away in alternating years.  You'll still have a 16-game regular season.  For basketball, one division I've proposed is currrently "stacked", but these things ebb and flow over time.

I foresee little chance of those divisions happening. The division with RMC, HSC, VWC, GC, LC, and Randolph will be too loaded. The other division doesn't even have two teams that are consistently legitimate threats to win the ODAC championship, many years not even one team. No way the coach at a school like Macon is going to approve having to go through a murderer's row of an ODAC schedule every year while the other side gets many of the teams that are stuck in the bottom on an annual basis. Those divisions do little to benefit the ODAC.

I think the travel cost and travel time will weigh into future divisions much more heavily than it would at a DI conference.  You know RMC and HSC are going to be paired together as will LC and Randolph.  Same with EMU and BC.  If there are travel "partners" for sports (see women's basketball), how would you group the teams geographically?

[78rmc]

I agree with Nova on the likely divisions.  Unfortunately, that means the possible top 5 from this year (VWC, RMC, HSC, GC, LC) would all be in the same division.  I don't know if things will ebb and flow that much though Nova.  Of the other 6 teams in the other division, EMU and W&L have had recent success, but the others have been down for a while.  Only time will tell though.

Well, ten years ago, GC was at the bottom of the ODAC and LC is also now playing much better than a few years ago.  I assume the divisions would apply to other sports, so it wouldn't just affect men's basketball.  It's interesting to note that my proposed "west" division is all up and down I-81.  Is there a common theme that ties the "east" together?

Here's another proposal:

E&H, GC, LC, Randolph, Roanoke and W&L
BC, EMU, HSC, RMC, SU and VWC

Things would be much more simple if we dropped GC and VWC from the ODAC.

Hey, hey, hey ... play fair.  lol  Don't forget, without GC, RMC would have one less win in football. 

In fairness to true Virginians, I picked GC simply, well, because they're not in the Old Dominion.  And, as to VWC, well, I picked them simply because I don't like them.  But, you make a good counter with the football win!

[jdubyadubya]

Interesting choice of words 78rmc: "if WE dropped GC and VWC from the ODAC," and the phrase, "true Virginians." You are obviously very powerful and perhaps will have a say with conference officials in the new structure and I am wondering what your definition of "true Virginians" might be in reference to VWC, or is there no specific reference!

[78rmc]

Interesting choice of words 78rmc: "if WE dropped GC and VWC from the ODAC," and the phrase, "true Virginians." You are obviously very powerful and perhaps will have a say with conference officials in the new structure and I am wondering what your definition of "true Virginians" might be in reference to VWC, or is there no specific reference!

No reference made about VWC not being Virginian.  (Did you notice the period between sentences?).   Gosh, JWW, 'nova 'got it' and played along?  Plus, I knew I'd 'get you'.   What reference were you inferring?

[jdubyadubya]

.....that the Marlins aren't "true Virginians."

[Mr. Ypsi]

.....that the Marlins aren't "true Virginians."

I'm an outsider, and I had no difficulty reading that the beginning of the second sentence negated your inference.

[78rmc]

.....that the Marlins aren't "true Virginians."

VWC is the only school with Virginia in their name, so, sure, they're 'truer' Virginians than the rest of us!

[2RMCFans]

.....that the Marlins aren't "true Virginians."

VWC is the only school with Virginia in their name, so, sure, they're 'truer' Virginians than the rest of us!

Heh heh... at least until the Beach washes away due to impending climate changes. 

Just heard on the local news that 2 H-SC student-athletes were injured in a fire on their campus early this morning.  Sending well wishes their way for full and quick recoveries. 

It's a big week around the ODAC, so .... GO JACKETS!!!