MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[CMR]

Nice win for the Tigers, finally used their size to score inside.  Nice job!

[tigerFanAlso2]

Thanks. Let's see where the rest of the season takes them. With wins over both GC and RMC, I think they have shown they can compete w/I the odac if they play.

[hasanova]

Not really sure what I saw last night, but sure glad HSC pulled the upset. Congrats to the team and their coaches.
Hasa, you owe me a beer next time I show up in Greensboro for a football game, glad HSC could help you guys out.

Yes, I do.  Get your thirst on ... Oct. 7.

[y_jack_lok]

The regular season may be for bragging rights as the ODAC could be a one bid conference to the NCAA tournament. So the conference tournament is what really counts. It would be nice if the ODAC could get two teams in, but at this point that might require R-MC and GC to finish 1-2 in the regular season and in the tournament.

[hasanova]

The regular season may be for bragging rights as the ODAC could be a one bid conference to the NCAA tournament. So the conference tournament is what really counts. It would be nice if the ODAC could get two teams in, but at this point that might require R-MC and GC to finish 1-2 in the regular season and in the tournament.

If GC wins the ODAC tournament, I believe it would be the only conference entrant to the NCAA tournament.  If someone else wins the ODAC tournament and due to the number of losses in the league, I think Guilford is the only conference member with an outside shot at an at-large bid if they can hold losses to four and break into the Top 25.  Just my opinion. 

[y_jack_lok]

^^^ That makes sense, but it means GC will have to win all their remaining conference games in order to have no more than 4 losses should they lose in the conference tournament. And it would not help GC to get a 4th loss in the first round of the tournament. Also hope R-MC can win the conference tournament. As you said some days ago, the forthcoming R-MC at GC game may loom large -- specially if both teams can win all their other remaining regular season games.

[hasanova]

^^^ That makes sense, but it means GC will have to win all their remaining conference games in order to have no more than 4 losses should they lose in the conference tournament. And it would not help GC to get a 4th loss in the first round of the tournament. Also hope R-MC can win the conference tournament. As you said some days ago, the forthcoming R-MC at GC game may loom large -- specially if both teams can win all their other remaining regular season games.

Your logic matches mine.  Perhaps someone can research whether a 5-loss ODAC team ever got an at-large berth.

[tigerFanAlso2]

I'll be shocked if the odac receives an at-large bid. those days are gone, at least for awhile. Maybe, just maybe GC gets an at-large if they win out and get beat in the odac final in a close game, maybe. will depend on what happens around the D111 world during conference tournament play.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I'll be shocked if the odac receives an at-large bid. those days are gone, at least for awhile. Maybe, just maybe GC gets an at-large if they win out and get beat in the odac final in a close game, maybe. will depend on what happens around the D111 world during conference tournament play.

Probably not likely to get a C this year (although not impossible, depending on how the cards fall), but I don't think those days are gone forever.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I'll be shocked if the odac receives an at-large bid. those days are gone, at least for awhile. Maybe, just maybe GC gets an at-large if they win out and get beat in the odac final in a close game, maybe. will depend on what happens around the D111 world during conference tournament play.

Probably not likely to get a C this year (although not impossible, depending on how the cards fall), but I don't think those days are gone forever.

They are absolutely not gone forever... that is a little short-sighted. And like last year, if the top dog loses and another team gets the AQ, there will be a second bid. Randolph almost forced that last season... could happen this year... but still early.

[Tiger Mic]

I believe the one-bid situation this year is at least as much of a function of the bottom half being so capable as the top half being weaker.

Separately, I noticed that Michael Taylor only played 12 minutes vs HSC.  Anyone know if he had an injury or illness?  He seems to match up very well vs the Tigers.

It is going to be a fun and interesting February in the ODAC.

[scottiedoug]

Is this a regional issue?  The USASouth is pretty competitive within itself and has done ok with ODAC competition but no team other than the tournament winner seems likely to go into the NCAA tournament.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Is this a regional issue?  The USASouth is pretty competitive within itself and has done ok with ODAC competition but no team other than the tournament winner seems likely to go into the NCAA tournament.

It's winning percentage.  Guilford has a low SOS, but most of the ODAC schools have competitive numbers.  The problem is they're losing too many games.  In better years, the best ODAC schools don't lose before conference play, which means even 5 losses in conference won't kill your chances.  This year, they're faring worse against non-conference competition.

The USAC just doesn't have the SOS to compete, even if they were winning more often (which they're not).

[y_jack_lok]

With their wins today GC and R-MC earn first round ODAC tournament byes.

[hasanova]

Final Guilford 68, W&L 66 in Lexington

In a game I attended, W&L played well enough to win, but didn't and GC played poorly enough to lose, but didn't.

Despite going 1-7 from 3-point range, GC's Carson Long hit the one that counted with 1.1 seconds to go to get the come from behind 68-66 win at W&L.  Both teams had 4 players in double figures, albeit all in the 11-15 point range.  Stats were pretty even with GC jumping out to a 28-14 lead and then going cold ... twice ... in the last 4 minutes of the first half and midway through the second half.  With 4 ties and 12 lead changes, it was competitive and tense until, literally, the very end.

Guilford (18-3, 11-1) travels to Roanoke (11-9, 6-6) on Feb. 8 while W&L (8-13, 4-8) visits E&H (14-7, 8-4).