MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

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Brian Hamilton

#19890
Congrats to GC on taking advantage of the opportunity HSC gave them.  They made the plays and HSC did not.  Three things I feel are worth mentioning.
1. HSC had two ball handlers injured earlier in the game who did not return.  Ryan Clements did not play any in the 2nd half.  DJ Wright got injured early in 2nd half and did not return.  Didn't really hurt HSC until GC started pressing.  I'll concede that with these two playing in the game at HSC earlier in the season, GC cut into HSC's lead with the press even when they were available.  Still, it wouldn't have hurt to have two more experienced ball handlers available.
2.  GC was down 10 with about 3:08 to go.  They cut it to 4 over a little less than 40 seconds.  HSC made some bad plays during this time, but GC's #0, who hit the game winner, was draped all over Adam Brazie for HSC.  The no calls during that time and not being able to get the ball to Brazile had a huge impact on GC coming back.
3.  As mentioned earlier by another poster, there was a huge 5 second call against HSC.  Coach Kimbrough appeared adamant he called a timeout prior to the whistle being blown.  I can't say one way or the other because I was watching the play on GC's end, so he was out of my line of sight. 

Overall, not the result I wanted, but GC deserves all the credit for taking advantage of the opportunities (missed free throws and shots, turnovers, rushed possessions) they were given.  Good luck to Macon and GC today.

Macon

^^^ If you're an HSC fan, you may have to hold your nose and pull for RMC today, plus hope that the favorites win the other conference playoff games being played today.

Macon

#19892
#1 St. Joseph loses to an 18-9 team, not good for HSC (or maybe GC is they lose today).

Macon

Two more favorites lose today, Oshkosh and Berry.  Hoping this trend does not continue in Salem.

y_jack_lok

Congrats to R-MC on the ODAC title and automatic bid to the NCAAs. Most of the amateur, but very knowledgeable and capable, prognosticators have had H-SC as a certainty to receive a Pool C bid and Guilford as highly likely. But there were a lot of upsets in tournaments yesterday and today, so quite a few teams that had strong seasons with solid criteria for Pool C bids, but did not win their conference tournament, will receive bids anyway, hurting the chances of teams like Guilford. Also, Emory defeated a good Rochester team yesterday in the final regular season game in the UAA, which has no conference tournament. That will hurt Guilford since Emory was ranked #4 in Region 6 to Guilford's #6. GC's semi-final win over H-SC will help, though. Hope it's enough.

Macon

#19895
Watched portions of 6 hours long Hoopsville last night.  Thanks to Dave and the gang for their analysis and insight.  I learned a lot about the selection process.  Looks like HSC is safely in and GC is one of the first teams out.  HSC gets a lot of credit for their win over CNU in December.  I'm not sure that a win (or lost) in December translates to a win (or lost) in February.  I'm more in the camp of 'what have you done lately'.  Hoping both HSC and GC get in.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


What have you done lately matters a lot to who performs well in March, it's just not part of the criteria.  I wonder if they'd consider adding a "last 10" as a secondary criteria?  I suspect it would work less well in other sports and selection criteria has to be uniform.
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Macon

#19897
^^^  I'm not advocating that HSC should be out, but that GC should be in as well.  Simply put, GC passes the 'eye test'.  Was surprised that HSC was so easily in and GC is out, was expecting a closer call.  But, the criteria is the criteria and I get that.  But, it seemed to me that the whole Rochester discussion was counter to the WP criteria?  Not sure many playoff teams would want to play GC in the first round.

scottiedoug

The last 10 idea makes sense if we want teams plating well in February to get to play more. Early losses to good teams counts more than it ought to. Maryville lost early to Emory, Berry, Keane State,Wabash, Mount Union and RMC and beat Roanoke and Rowan. That is a pretty tough schedule. They then won 10 in a row and won the new CCS and its tournament. They are a really good team now and it is rough that they cannot prove it.

thescottharris

#19899
Quote from: rmc1982 on February 26, 2023, 10:28:12 AM
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Combine this with the W&L loss and that likely costs them the chance to host first round.
I'm not even sure they get a bid now, let alone host. I hope they do, but I would think it was 60/40 against , depending on if top seeds get upset and take Pool C bids....
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They were a top 16 overall seed last week. They are in unless they think a loss to W&L is a terrible loss. Which it isn't

thescottharris

Quote from: Macon on February 27, 2023, 10:21:18 AM
^^^  I'm not advocating that HSC should be out, but that GC should be in as well.  Simply put, GC passes the 'eye test'.  Was surprised that HSC was so easily in and GC is out, was expecting a closer call.  But, the criteria is the criteria and I get that.  But, it seemed to me that the whole Rochester discussion was counter to the WP criteria?  Not sure many playoff teams would want to play GC in the first round.
At the time of the last regional ranking, H-SC SOS was better with more wins over regionally ranked opponents (RRO) and better record against RRO.

Macon

#19901
All of GCs losses are to projected playoff teams, including 3 to the #1 team, so half of their losses to RMC.  Not sure how a 22 win team with all, all losses to playoff teams not get in.  If you're giving Rochester credit for a tough schedule and good losses, why can GC not get the same consideration?  I'm with Dave on the Rochester issue, yes they had a tough schedule, but you have to win more games.  If the NCAA drops Rochester, maybe GC can slide in.  Not sure why I'm advocating for GC so hard, where is HASA when you need him?    ;D

thescottharris

Think the NCAA screwed up the bracket announcement by putting Averett in the field

thescottharris

Okay so apparently they decided to air last year's selection show at 1 pm when the 2023 selection show was originally set to air. Have it on mute at work and it didn't say 2022 anywhere on the screen so didn't know.

The level of stupidity by the NCAA never ceases to amaze me.

NOKE