MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[hasanova]

I'm not a coach....but the only reason a team purposely shoots an abnormal amount of threes is because they don't have the talent to match up and play a traditional style. According to your post E&H has really good talent; big guys, shooters, slashers, everything needed to be a good team. I've seen them once and frankly, I didn't see all of that talent. Not a knock on your Wasps just the way I see it. Good luck the remainder of the year and I hope ya'll beat everybody but HSC(again).....

I saw E&H play against Guilford a few weeks ago (the Quakers won 109-106) and I thought they were a pretty fair team.  It's a coaching decision, to be sure, but I think the Wasps have some competent players regardless of "the system" they choose to employ.  While I don't think they would win the regular-season ODAC title, I don't think they would fail to qualify for the ODAC tournament either.  Again, I'm also not a coach, but I bet the Wasps would have about the same record if they employed a more conventional strategy.   Maybe Johnson just wants to inject the "fun" factor.

[tigerfanalso]

Hasonava:

I'm not going to argue the point because I've only seen them one time, but i did read an article just recently written by Roy Williams(and I'm not a UNC fan) that basically says teams that shoot an unusally large amount of threes do so to cover up weaknesses and the lack of ability in the post. He says the %'s of shoots made beyond the arc do not justify the use of same on a consistant basis unless you have no other means of offense. I've never agreed with anything out of Chapel Hill before;  until now. I wish E&H all the best and I admire the physical condition of those guys, but I still must think the system is run because something is lacking.... you might be right and they do it to have fun... I tend to think winning the majority of their games would be more fun   

[hasanova]

Hasonava:

I'm not going to argue the point because I've only seen them one time, but i did read an article just recently written by Roy Williams(and I'm not a UNC fan) that basically says teams that shoot an unusally large amount of threes do so to cover up weaknesses and the lack of ability in the post. He says the %'s of shoots made beyond the arc do not justify the use of same on a consistant basis unless you have no other means of offense. I've never agreed with anything out of Chapel Hill before;  until now. I wish E&H all the best and I admire the physical condition of those guys, but I still must think the system is run because something is lacking.... you might be right and they do it to have fun... I tend to think winning the majority of their games would be more fun

Hey, I wasn't really arguing, I was just saying there was some talent there in the one game I saw.  For the most part, I agree, "the system" is a gimmick offense to cover some other voids.  Like I said, E&H is not the best in the ODAC no matter what offense they employ. 

[tigerfanalso]

Hasanova:

I just used the argue word because I'm so use to using it....I know what you were saying. You happen to see them on a nite when they looked good... I saw them on a nite when they didn't... I hope they get to the tournament because they sure are fun to watch... hell, I get tired watching them and would get cramps in my right arm if I shot as many threes as they do ... I've got to get back to work... good luck to all this weekend !!!!

[baselinejam]

I agree with the "if you have the talent  then you don't have to use a gimmick to get the job done." Ergo, if E&H had the talent....

They have the lowest 3fg% & FT % in the league.

A coach has to do what his players' talent level will allow him to do.  They're very respectable in that regard - so more power to them. They're not breaking any rules.

[Jacketlawyer]

Helloooooo. . . . . ?

Y'all are bein' too QUIET!!  Where's my RC/E&H score??   Updates.  I need UPDATES.

[mr_divac]

Tigerfanalso, i feel it is my duty as a true blue tarheel fan, a true fan, through the horrible YEAR, and the glory YEARS!, just about everything to com eout of Carolina should be accepted as good and or law, lol, accept of course for Joseph Forte, and Matt Dorherty (who i don't hate, he did recruit 3 out of those 4 guys who went in the first round last year...lol!!

[and1wasp]

E&H defeats RC 106-103

[Jacketlawyer]

E&H defeats RC 106-103

Thanks.  I was starting to get the shakes!!

[baselinejam]

Tigerfanalso, i feel it is my duty as a true blue tarheel fan, a true fan, through the horrible YEAR, and the glory YEARS!, just about everything to com eout of Carolina should be accepted as good and or law, lol, accept of course for Joseph Forte, and Matt Dorherty (who i don't hate, he did recruit 3 out of those 4 guys who went in the first round last year...lol!!

You always seemed like a smart guy. Now I know why.  Go Heels!

[ODACfan1]

E&H does shoot a lot of threes...they also press a lot, and sub a lot.  Basketball has and always will be a game of changing and contrasting styles.  Bob Johnson put in this sytem, because he had the talent to do it.  That talent being guys who can shoot the ball and guys that don't care about scoring and rebound and set screens.  Don't say that they don't have talent because if u saw them play you would see that they defnitely do have talent.  On another point, they are also the most unselfish team that I have seen.  Gary Kerns is an all conference type performer, but he has a different role...he has accepted that graciously.  E&H has guys like Leary, Luton, and even Scwartstein taking lesser roles for the good of the team.  Big win tonight!!!  GO WASPS

[hasanova]

I've got a feeling that Roanoke is going to go on a six game sprint-to-the-regular-season-finish starting tonight against Emory & Henry.... Roanoke by 8, with the winning score in the eighties.

Anyone remember the old "Get Smart" TV show?  "Chief, would you believe a five game sprint ... ?" 

[jeloesel]

Anyone remember the old "Get Smart" TV show?  "Chief, would you believe a five game sprint ... ?" 

Five game sprint?  Sounds a lot better than a two-game sprint to the regular season finish.   

Now regarding my inability to provide the "post-game fix" last night that some of you basketball junkies seem to require...

I was listening to the Roanoke broadcast at my desk when my wife called out, "Time to leave for the Duke game."  (She's become a rabid Dookie ever since J.J. Redick joined the team.  J.J. grew up in our Cave Spring neighborhood and she's got great loyalty to the old neighborhood even though we have moved to the All-Sports Café neighborhood this summer.)  "I'll be right there, dear."  I didn't really believe that old dodge would work, and it didn't.  (We have a deal worked out with our son, who bought a town house in our old neighborhood.  He carries a cable package with ESPN and we get HBO.  We go there for Duke games on ESPN; he comes here for Oceans 11 & 12 etc.)  "We have to leave right now or we'll miss the opening tip-off," she chirped.  I responded with the time-tested, "Honey, there are only two minutes to go and it's a one-point game."  She countered, "You can listen to it on the radio in the car."  I was sunk.  By the time I found the game on the AM band, all I got from the broadcasters was that Roanoke "self-destructed" with five straight turnovers.  We arrived before the stats were announced or Page gave his post-game analysis. 

This morning I said to myself, "I'll at least check out the box score and give a little analysis based on the game stats.  The E&H SID didn't get them up last night, and he obviously doesn't get up as early as I do. 

So there it is.  Total D3hoops disaster.  Roanoke loses. I don't get to hear the end of the game to find out what happened.   I lose a point to the rest of the Pick'em crowd.   The Wasp posters get to define the results online.  Jacketlawyer and Hasanova have their sarcastic juices flowing.

If there is any consolation out of this saga, it's the Duke win.  Mrs. Loesel will be in a good mood for a while. 

[mybleedinghands]

Jimmy,

The E&H SID must have heard your pleas, the box score is now available, although with no play-by-play! http://www.ehc.edu/scores/2006/02/2006020121305551/ehcrc1m.htm

[hasanova]

Anyone remember the old "Get Smart" TV show?  "Chief, would you believe a five game sprint ... ?" 

Five game sprint?  Sounds a lot better than a two-game sprint to the regular season finish.      ......  So there it is.  Total D3hoops disaster.  Roanoke loses. I don't get to hear the end of the game to find out what happened.   I lose a point to the rest of the Pick'em crowd.   The Wasp posters get to define the results online.  Jacketlawyer and Hasanova have their sarcastic juices flowing.

If there is any consolation out of this saga, it's the Duke win.  Mrs. Loesel will be in a good mood for a while. 

Sorry, Jim.  Didn't mean to "pile on" too much.  "Salt in a wound" is not good for anyone.  Hope RC has a good finish, except, of course, when they come to Greensboro.